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Goat Hill via National West, AZ

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Rated  Favorite Wish List AZ > Phoenix > South Mtn
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Difficulty 3 of 5
Route Finding 1 of 5
Distance Round Trip 8.4 miles
Trailhead Elevation 1,231 feet
Elevation Gain 1,231 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,506 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 3 - 4 hour
Kokopelli Seeds 15.93
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Photos Viewed All Mine Following
Collective Slideshow
3  2018-07-22
Lost Mine - South Mountain
johnlp
2  2018-07-01
Lost Mine - South Mountain
johnlp
2  2018-03-18
Bursera-National-Pyramid loop
lindaagm
1  2018-03-14
Night Goat
chumley
7  2018-03-11
Goats in the Mist
johnlp
3  2017-12-25
Bursera-National-Pyramid loop
The_N
2  2017-08-31
Lost Ranch Mine-National-Pyramid loop
The_N
1  2017-07-02
Lost Mine Trail South Mountain
johnlp
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Preferred   Jan, Dec, Feb, Nov → 9 AM
Seasons   Late Autumn to Early Spring
Sun  7:21am - 5:21pm
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Nearby Area Water
Maricopa Peak
Maricopa Peak
1.0 mi away
0.5 mi
161 ft
Alta Trail
Alta Trail
1.1 mi away
4.5 mi
1,550 ft
South Mountain 620 Trail Loop
1.2 mi away
9.0 mi
1,150 ft
Alta - Bajada Loop
Alta - Bajada Loop
1.5 mi away
9.4 mi
1,996 ft
Lost Ranch Ruins Trail
Lost Ranch Ruins Trail
1.6 mi away
0.9 mi
920 ft
Lost Mine - South Mountain
Lost Mine - South Mountain
1.8 mi away
1.0 mi
929 ft
Laveen Trail
Laveen Trail
1.8 mi away
2.2 mi
270 ft
Lost Camp Loop
Lost Camp Loop
2.0 mi away
5.4 mi
1,318 ft
Bursera Trail - South Mountain
2.0 mi away
2.8 mi
1,042 ft
Goat Hill Loop via Pyramid / Bursera
2.0 mi away
10.5 mi
2,283 ft
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Goats Rule!
by joebartels

Likely In-Season!
Overview: San Juan "Road" Trailhead onto the National Trail from marker 51 up past marker 38. Ending at the high point of the Gila Range which is Goat Hill. Trail data here is for an out and back trip. If wildflowers are in season go a little further and make a loop out of this with the Ranger & Bajada trails. Please Note: San Juan Road is only open sunrise to sunset. You need to be out of the park by sunset or risk getting towed. The gates as of this writing opened at 5am, okay 5:12 to be exact.


Hike: San Juan "Road" Trailhead is located between the Bajada and West Alta trailheads. From the trailhead follow San Juan road west a couple hundred feet and you'll see the National Trail crossing the road. Pick up the National Trail on the left/south side of the road. Within a few steps you'll pass marker 51 which is the Bajada Trail junction. Continue right on the National. The trail is flat as a pancake. In the old days the trail trudged straight up to the ridge. Now it takes a lazy approach shooting wide to gain a low saddle at the tail end of the range. I'm not sure why but maybe to accommodate mountain bikes. It might also have something to do with all the mine activity in the area. So maybe it was to divert the public from troubled spots.

Continuing on there seems to be a marker at every little jag in the trail. 50 you make a minor turn. 49 you approach a wash. You'll see what looks like a gauging station to your right. My first thoughts were, damn, if this entire valley fills up with enough water to make a noticeable difference on that water gauge I'd be impressed! Post 48 is immediately across the wash. 47 comes by quick too. At which point I realized it was more of a weather station as opposed to a creek/river water gauge. Little rocks line the trail. This isn't spectacular desert. It appears to be an old 4x4 romping grounds. What is spectacular is the morning sun hitting on the ever close Estrella Range! At marker 46 you just start gaining elevation. You go over this low saddle on the ridge thinking you'll be heading straight up. However, at marker 45 you turn left and head back down the other side? The trail shoots through a mini valley and instead ascends on a fork ridge. Marker 44 is down in the little valley. Looking west towards the Estrella Range you notice homes or something very nearby. Mountain biking up to this point would be a breeze. The trail now turns gravelly, thick and loose. Personally I wouldn't mountain bike up this trail ever, maybe down, but I doubt it. Anyhow, marker 44 is down in the little valley at one side of a ravine. You cross this ravine and marker 43 greets you. Basically the trail follows the fork ridge above the ravine up to the main ridge. Lots of Palo Verde grow in this area, due to the ravine. Nearing July it was rather warmy even at daybreak, you'd be best off tackling this in December. Of course you know strange things happen in the desert. I encountered the worlds largest wasp (I think). The thing was huge it could have eaten a bat!

Marker 42 is a bend in the trail or something. I remember it best by the ten plus javelina scattering every which way. They're funny to watch. They kind of gallop aimlessly. I took a couple quick photos. I was putting the camera away when another one jolted right beside me. It wasn't until the return trip that I noticed what they were doing. Also saw one skinny rabbit which made me wonder how in the world they get by without water.

Marker 41 is in the middle of the connector ridge. Between here and 40 is a section of trail fairly tough for a hiker, forget mountain biking it. It's steep loose gravel. Got me thinking, you know, you'd think there'd be a large bare spot at the top cause this gravel is only going DOWN! At any rate, by marker 40 you're getting to the good stuff. The trail zigs all over the place. This isn't a clean cut point A to point B clothesline ridge. It's wide, then narrow, then who knows. If you did make it to this point on a bike it's joy riding all the way from here to the Mormon trail.

Most notably first is the Ma Ha Tuak Range to the north. The pointy peak is Maricopa Peak. It kind of resembles Browns Peak as viewed from Roosevelt Lake. Next you'll notice the valley you just came from is flat! Good luck finding the trailhead down below without a zoom lens. Along the way are several mines. Looking a topographical map it's evident this whole area was scoured. These are, for the most part, shallow holes. One did appear to tunnel down. Only thing really interesting is the thought of the work involved hauling your butt up here then digging into rock, ugh.

Awatukee can be seen to the south. The rolling hills depict why this area is "too good" to just be called Phoenix, even though that's what it is. Somebody was coming down in a parachute from above. However, as he or she came closer I could hear a motor. Seemed odd that that would be allowed in the middle of a city? Hmmm. Anyhow, enjoy the stroll over to Goat Hill. Which is the high point of the Gila Range not to be confused with the Guadalupe Range you might be more familiar with. Goat Hill juts up from its surroundings so it's easy to spot. It's a little ways past marker 38. Guess I forgot 39, it was missing the number plate and basically signified the trail was turning at some point. If you need to be rescued it won't seem so useless.

The views atop Goat Hill are pretty good. You have a nice wide view of the valley. The radio towers are due east. Return the way you came. You might also opt to make this a loop trip. Continue on the National Trail 0.3 miles further and head on down to the Bajada Trail. Which as you recall goes back to marker 51.


Gate Policy: If a gate is closed upon arrival, leave it closed after you go through. If it is open, leave it open. Leaving a closed gate open may put cattle in danger. Closing an open gate may cut them off from water. Please be respectful, leave gates as found.

joebartels
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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    To hike
    From Phoenix, head straight down Central, keep going and going until it hits South Mountain. The road curves west passing an entrance gate. Keep going to the information/bathroom center. Continue on about 3.7 miles. Basically, San Juan 'Road' Trailhead is 1.7 miles past the Bajada Trailhead. If you go to far you'll curve right to the Alta Trailhead.
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