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1.5 of 5 |
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| Distance One Way |
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2.38 miles |
| Trailhead Elevation |
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1,500 feet |
| Elevation Gain |
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308 feet |
| Accumulated Gain |
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500 feet |
| Avg Time One Way |
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1 hour |
| Kokopelli Seeds |
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4.05 |
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2018-10-27 |
Unexpected Ruth Hamilton and 8 and 1a plus |
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2017-11-26 | bakerag |
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2017-04-23 |
Peak 2429 - Phoenix Preserves |
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2017-03-05 |
LV Yates Perl Charles Loop |
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2017-01-02 |
8A to 8B saddle peak - 8A and wash |
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2016-08-21 |
VOAZ - Tibber Happy Hour Ridgeline via 40th St |
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2016-08-14 |
100 with hiccups and Ten Cent Peak |
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2016-07-10 |
Phoenix Mountain Preserve |
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Official Route
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| LV Yates Trail #8
| Official Route |
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2.38 mi
425 ft |
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| LV Yates Trail #8
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2.19 mi
18 ft |
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| LV Yates Trail #8
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3.19 mi
927 ft |
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| LV Yates Trail #8
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4.59 mi
688 ft |
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| LV Yates Trail #8
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2.39 mi
467 ft |
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| LV Yates Trail #8
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4.82 mi
624 ft |
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| 4 unofficial routes |
| Unexpected Ruth Hamilton and 8 and 1a plus
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6.05 mi
844 ft |
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| Peak 2429 Irregular Link Loop
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7.77 mi
1,921 ft |
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| Tibber Mayhem - NE Phx Preserve
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5.73 mi
662 ft |
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| Phoenix Mountain Preserve Ramble
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31.65 mi
7,393 ft |
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| 8A to Saddle with B peak 8A and wash
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5.42 mi
863 ft |
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| Preserve Loop
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8.32 mi
1,560 ft |
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| Tibber Ridgeline VOAZ LV Yates etc
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5.72 mi
1,131 ft |
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| VOAZ - Tibber Happy Hour Ridgeline via 40th St
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5.57 mi
952 ft |
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| 8 - Off On Off - 100 - 8
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4.1 mi
592 ft |
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| Phoenix Mountain Preserve
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11.63 mi
2,929 ft |
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| Nothing ventured Nothing gained Phx Preserve
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8.4 mi
1,626 ft |
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| VOAZ TwoBit Loop
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6.46 mi
1,465 ft |
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| Quartz Ridge Trail #8A
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4.6 mi
1,017 ft |
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| LV Yates Perl Charles Loop
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5.75 mi
1,238 ft |
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| LV Yates-Circumference Loop
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9.53 mi
2,335 ft |
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| Squaw Twobit Loop
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11.63 mi
3,400 ft |
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| Phoenix Mountains Preserve - East End
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6.75 mi
699 ft |
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| North Phoenix Preserve Loop
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6.2 mi
1,112 ft |
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| Peak 2429 Quartz Irregular Link Loop
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7.73 mi
2,420 ft |
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| Peak 2429 - Phoenix Preserves
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4.87 mi
1,353 ft |
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| Phoenix Preserve 4000
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11.08 mi
4,234 ft |
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| Phoenix Preserve Loop
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10.42 mi
2,806 ft |
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| Charles M. Christiansen Trail #100
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2.93 mi
178 ft |
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| Peak 2429 Loop
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5.35 mi
1,328 ft |
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| Preserve Loop
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9.17 mi
2,412 ft |
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| North Phoenix Preserve Mystery Loop
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6.12 mi
1,045 ft |
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| Dixie Peak 2429 Voaz Loop
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6.16 mi
1,568 ft |
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| Dixie and some 8
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4.34 mi
1,177 ft |
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| Lap the Preserve
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11 mi
3,114 ft |
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| Peak 2429 1A Loop
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7.16 mi
1,808 ft |
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| 2429-2342 Ridgeline Loop
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6.45 mi
1,933 ft |
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| Peak 2429 Super Loop
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10.16 mi
2,642 ft |
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| Dreamy Draw-LV Yates Loop
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5.97 mi
1,203 ft |
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| Peak 2429 - Phoenix Preserves
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5.28 mi
1,571 ft |
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| Dixie Peak 2429 LV Yates Loop
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7.76 mi
2,313 ft |
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| Peak 2429 LV Yates Loop
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6.36 mi
1,612 ft |
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| LV Yates-Voaz Loop
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6.41 mi
1,848 ft |
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| 2429-Mohave-Nature Loop
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9.34 mi
2,545 ft |
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| Peak 2429 - Lv Yates Loop
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7.81 mi
2,425 ft |
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| LVYates-DreamyDraw-Figure8
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6.65 mi
1,453 ft |
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| Peak 2429 to 8 and around
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4.42 mi
1,059 ft |
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| Peak 2429 - Phoenix Preserves
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3.26 mi
1,330 ft |
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| 8A-8-8B-8A loop
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4.22 mi
946 ft |
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same trailhead
| |  | | North Phoenix Preserve Mystery Loop
0.0 mi away
| |  | | Dixie Peak 2429 East Side
1.1 mi away
| |  | | VOAZ Trail #1B
1.4 mi away
| |  | | Irregular Link Trail #1C
1.6 mi away
| | | | Piestewa Basin Trail #1D
1.7 mi away
| |  | | Mohave Ridgeline
1.8 mi away
| | | | Dreamy Draw Nature Trail #220
1.9 mi away
| |  | | Mercury Mine Loop
1.9 mi away
| |  | | Ruth Hamilton Trail #8B
1.9 mi away
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| Fauna |
Nearby |
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Broad-winged bush Katydid |
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Chuckwalla |
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Curve-billed Thrasher |
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Red-tailed Hawk |
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Rock Wren |
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Say's Phoebe |
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Speckled Rattlesnake |
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| Flora |
Nearby |
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Barrel Cactus |
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Barrel Cactus - Red |
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Brittlebush |
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Jumping cholla |
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Ocotillo |
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Saguaro |
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Strawberry Hedgehog |
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Unidentified Flora |
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 2009 Update
Formerly know as Quartz Ridge. Hence the title "Ridgeless Encounters" as it doesn't follow a ridge. It's amazing they finally figured it out! Hike
This trail takes off south from the 40th Street Trailhead one mile south of Shea Boulevard at an elevation of 1500 feet. Soon the trail connects with Trail #100 and follows it briefly for a short jag west before heading south again. At 1.25 miles comes a saddle with an elevation of 1776. Here you decend the south side into a ravine. Once down in the ravine Trail #8A takes off south, instead make a sharp turn north and continue on Trail #8. At this point you are hiking in the middle of one of the largest cities in the United States with absolutely no sign of the city. You lose 160 feet in elevation before easing into a mirrored ascent of 160 feet to another saddle at 1776 feet. It's at this second saddle (2.35 miles) that Trail #8 ends and connects with the 304 Nature Trail. The view from this saddle looking south towards South Mountain is pretty good.
I'm listing this trail one-way as itself. Some may start from the 40th Street Trailhead, come out for the view and head straight back. However, I doubt it's a popular choice by any means. More likely are a slew of various loops that will only trace sections of this trail.
I did a loop of sorts without any planning as I just wanted to get to know the area. With a slightly better idea of the area I think the following would be a decent leisure February spring loop. From the northern most parking area of Piestewa proper head out on Trail #302. Connect onto the Perl Charles Memorial Trail #1A and take one of the use trails up to the Charles M. Christiansen Memorial Trail #100, then head back on #8 possibly tagging in the #8A-B variation.
Keep in mind there's no ridge hiking involved. The hike consist of a couple ravines seperated by two saddles. Quartz Ridge is what you're going over as described as the first saddle above.
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