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Goat Hill via Telegraph Pass, AZ

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Distance Round Trip 5.8 miles
Trailhead Elevation 1,467 feet
Elevation Gain 1,010 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,270 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 3 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 12.15
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Author joebartels
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Age 49 Male Gender
Location Phoenix, AZ
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Preferred   Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb → 7 AM
Seasons   Late Autumn to Early Spring
Sun  6:16am - 6:27pm
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Hike with a Split Personality
by joebartels

Hike: From the popular Telegraph Pass Trailhead in Ahwatukee you ascend to the pass in 1.2 mi. This is a shared experience. I call it the housewife express. There's also a good mix of families and mountain bikers on each trip.

Then it's a left following the National Trail. Here you loose about ninety percent of the crowd. Follow the road left until you come to the guard rail. At which point you'll see the trail pick up again. Soon you hit the switchbacks and work up to the ridge. Once at the highpoint, in another 0.7 mi, you'll loose all other taggers.

Continuing on you follow a sweet ridge 1.0 mi over to Goat Hill. It's rare to encounter others on this stretch out of season. This is the finest inner city ridge. It takes you past the Ranger Trail junction and onto Goat Hill. Goat Hill is the tallest, furthest and western most peak of the mini Four Peaks formation. Return by the same route.

Late Spring Journey - Early April: Spring continues it's cycle, Creosote Bush is in full bloom. Avoid contact as it dyes all a saturated yellow swath.

Brittle Bush has turned to tambourines in the wind. Skeletons of fiddlenecks stand as fuel. At which, even the lightest brush will torture you worse than a foxtail ever imagined. Scorpionweed resembles an ornament of exposure. Ironwoods droop in glee. Saguaros laugh in anticipation as round one of summer nears. In the Valley of the Sun autumn passes the baton to spring. Winter is skipped and summer extreme is the result.

Past the populated ascent and onto the ridge you enter the Summer of '42. Hillsides are a canvas of subtle hues. Bone dry wildflowers crack in the last gasp of spring. Albeit sad this is life in the purest sense. Few will ever understand for Arizona isn't a destination, it's an experience.

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2008-04-05 joebartels
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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    Telegoat Ranger Kiwa
    I didn't think I had ever hiked Telegraph Pass before. Apparently it was so exhilarating the first time that I completely forgot about it.

    Los Lomitas combined with the official route preloaded on Route Scout burned through my phone's 30,000mAh backup battery in 12 minutes. Apparently one of the 211 waypoints on this route occurs approximately every 14.6 feet and RS is very good at announcing all of them at a variety of distance intervals. It would be a nice hike to do alone since your Route Scout would be talking to you nonstop for the entire hike.

    Not to mention, Los Lomitas is actually a very scenic trail. In the dark. I should probably do the complete loop sometime.
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    Got in this one after my weekly trip to Tucson, got started hiking about 4:15 or so. Threats of thunderstorms chased me out of any southern AZ choices, so I thought I would give this one a go. Hike went just like the description, lots of people up the Telegraph Pass, then just a few afterwards. I hit the National trial in 20:40 from the parking lot, not to shabby for my first time. I was on a pretty tight time frame, so I just kept chugging on up to...wait for it...Goat Hill :) . Quick 5 minute break up top, and then back the way I came. My trusty Garmin Etrex E20 ran out of batteries on the way back, first time in the 3+ years I have had it that this happened. No worries, easy enough to find the way. ;)
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    Nice evening hike with the group. Telegraph Pass has been on my radar for about a year and is a very enjoyable trail. There were a handful of people out hiking and the views from the top were really nice. We finished under the light of the waxing moon. It was a good evening followed up by a BBQ at Chumley's house.
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    Quick evening hike up the Goat via Telegraph. Despite my reputation, my only phone use was on HAZ Tracks. Lee, on the other hand, was texting someone the entire time. 9L had to get some urgent messages through on the summit. Whatever. I know I've been guilty in the past.

    Anywhoo, great sunset, nice clouds, not too many gnats, and only on the ascent before it got dark. A few people out and about. School is out and apparently the park is the place to go at night to talk to Bob.
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    Made the trek out to the Telegraph Pass trailhead. I live in Downtown Phoenix so it's a pretty inconvenient 30+ minute drive for me, but the hike sounded like it was worth it. I'm not sure how often I'll be coming back to this trailhead, but I'm glad I at least did it this time. Got to the trailhead a little later than I planned and I knew I'd be hiking back down in the dark. A handful of cars in the parking lot but didn't see a whole lot of other hikers.

    The hike up is flat and easy until the last half mile or so, which is surprisingly steep and rocky. Really got a workout on that section. It was cool to get up to the Summit Rd. and not see any cars on it. Very quiet up there.

    Hadn't been to Goat Hill since last winter so I was curious about the trail condition. The section of the National between Ranger and Goat Hill had several spots that were washed out and were just piles of loose rock. I wouldn't feel comfortable hiking this section in the dark, or riding a bike across it. Surprisingly the short trail up to Goat Hill was in no worse condition than it was last year. Enjoyed the views and the wind for a couple minutes and headed back down.

    On the way back on the National I felt a sting on the back of my leg. Instinctively I swatted at it without looking, and I ended up swatting a big piece of cholla. :o Ended up picking about a dozen needles out of my fingers and back of my leg. I swatted it so hard with my hand that it felt like the needles were to the bone. Had to use my keys to pry the nugget off of my hand, and it was so deep it was pulling the skin on my fingers with it. My hands throbbed in pain for a good 10 minutes. Yikes!

    It was completely dark by the time I got back to the stone house. The stone house was a little spooky in the dark! Still getting used to night hiking so I took it pretty slow coming back down. That top half mile of Telegraph Pass was not very fun to come down at night. Don't think I'll ever want to do that again. After that section it was smooth sailing, and I only saw a couple other people. Nice and relaxing walking the flat remainder of the trail and looking up at the stars. Great hike!
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    Got a text from JJ wanting to hike a South Mnt loop. We met a little after 5 PM and were off. Smelled smoke once we got up on the National ridgeline. From Goat Hill we could see smoke from the west side of the Ma Ha Tauk range (Alta trail). Not sure what that's about. Nice breeze made the hike reasonably comfortable. Good times with JJ. :)
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    Up Telegraph Pass to the National to Goat Hill then down the Ranger to Summit road, back up to the National going east, down and up the Kiwanis trail, and back to the Telegraph Pass trailhead. Quite a few people out today. Saw three unicycles on the Kiwanis trail. 8) Poppies/lupine are showing nicely on the southern slopes off of the National ridgeline.
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    JuanJaime made me leave work early to hike. :o :) :y:
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    Hiked to Goat Hill then down the Ranger to Summit road, back up to the National going east, down and up the Kiwanis trail, and back to the Telegraph Pass trailhead. Tried not to dog it too much. Every time I started to slow down I could hear Juan Jaime calling me a wuss. :o
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    TG - GoatHill - Ranger - LL - KW - TG
    :y: I've been trying to run "the loop" (telegraph :next: national :next: ranger :next: Los Lomitas :next: Kawanis :next: telegraph) for a year (looked easy enough on the map lol) and finally decided to try it after going Telegraph :next: National :next: Goat Hill :next: National :next: Telegraph a few times and back. Except when I ran the loop I went over to and up Goat Hill first, then down ranger...not sure if the distance is accurate, I usually don't pay any attention to distance. One restriction i have as a runner is walking and stopping are not options, so I need to plan in order to be able to run the entire route. I had to power hike the very top of GH as that is kinda ladder-like...

    Next is to do the same thing in will be difficult running up ranger then up GH...

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    To Telegraph Pass Trailhead
    From I-10 take Chandler Boulevard 4.8mi west to Desert Foothills Parkway. Turn right and follow 1.3mi. The parkway curves west. It's easy to find.

    Quicker: Alternate route: From I-10 and the Loop 202 take Pecos Road west, which is a westward extension of the 202. Go 5 miles to Desert Foothills Parkway. Take a right going north on DFP for 2.5 miles to the trailhead on the right side of the road.

    From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) 19.4 mi - about 30 mins
    From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 102 mi - about 1 hour 36 mins
    From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 163 mi - about 2 hours 37 mins
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