@Jim_H We were 24 hours overdue for exiting Aravaipa due to flood waters. We were packed and moving towards W entrance with one water crossing done. We saw the DPS copter buzz the canyon, simply expected a well check fly-by but suddenly a DPS officer walked up to us and said we are evacuating you. ...

Key word "closed" trail. Implies area, weather, etc is unsafe. Ignoring the notice is the persons choice and direct violation of the authority closing the trail. I have been a recipient of a free helicopter ride. In AZ if you refuse a rescue, DPS has authority to arrest you and complete th...

Nighthiker wrote:Never had a problem with my US military 1944 mess kit.

Burned and scalded myself on my old mess kit many times, so yes triple the weight of those stoves with shields. ;)
Hows that saying go? Burn me once.....

@CannondaleKid
My sweetheart echos the same way, in the same scenario.

Many personal preferences on this subject. True wool socks and GoreTex is the best. Water may enter GoreTex boots over the top but squeezes out as you hike. If the hike has a single crossing early in the hike, I may remove shoes/socks. Depends on the stream bed. Flat grippy stone - shed the shoes/so...

@vscott1
The gushing spring is also in Deer Creek canyon (Hell Hole canyon) Pic is in my photos for Aravaipa 4/1/2016 and other Aravaipa posted photos.

morg wrote:within Hell Hole Canyon

I would not recommend within Hell Hole Canyon (Deer Creek). There are few to none, safe escape areas should floods occur. Sheer cliffs of a hundred feet.

SJFL wrote:I'm looking at .5" per day,

By desert standards .5" is significant. Do not recall the inch forecast for our trip noted above but think it was in the .1 to .2 range. You know the canyon and have seen the past devastation of high flows.

Yeah, but have you ever been on a free helicopter ride!? Yes, as a matter of fact, out of Aravaipa. Forecast was for a couple hours light rain in March 2010. A pair of storms met and put heavy rain fall on the watershed into Aravaipa the last night of our 3 day trip. Normal flow is 20-40 cubic feet...

Would be an interesting statistic if the figures of rescues were compared per sq mile of the park. GC is the largest park in the list of 10 for rescues.

my list is bees and rabid animals. Agreed. The bees chase and bring their army. My worst encounter has been in town and ran to my vehicle, where about a dozen joined me inside. Best ninja moves and screaming brought me to the winning side with minimal damage (to me). Made me think what would I have...

Headed to UP Mich for some hiking. Rain in Kansas and Iowa so far. Hoping more rain is hitting AZ fires.

0 deg Bag. Always easier to adjust up, open foot vent, leave head loose, sleep with an arm and leg out, sleep on top of it.....

Would anyone here feel differently if there were 2,000 people hiking your favorite trail, each with a pack of matches, striking them and tossing them every 10 feet, at 10pm tonight? Would you want some action from the legal authority? And need the National Guard to control them? The Governor just pu...

@ddgrunning Hell Hole, Bogger and Horse Camp canyons are our favorites. As Outdoor_Lover says Hell Hole deserves the most time. I have only come from the West but we always camped at Bogger, the mid-point of Aravaipa Canyon. The East end has the most interest in my opinion. Bogger and Horse Camp ea...

@wolfman200
Only other suggestion I have is to have multiple small scouting hikes exploring an area. This will give you familiarity with the topography, landmarks, approaches to areas of interest, etc...
Be safe and enjoy

AK wrote: probably not fully in my lifetime.

Yes, desert/mountains recover slowly if at all. Sad to hear it may destroy Reavis Ranch and orchard.

@big_load
101 and the average for today is 101. Only the third time in triple digits this year

(just had to see this hit 6000 posts)

@LosDosSloFolks
Rattlesnake trap or maybe a HAZ Trap with the label on it. Be sure to stand back.

markthurman53 wrote:clothes line

Lumber dryer line