Over The Edge, 2014
Moderator: HAZ - Moderators
Linked Guides none
Linked Area, etc none
-
cactuscatGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 3Triplogs Last: 71 d | RS: 26Water Reports 1Y: 2 | Last: 101 d
- Joined: Oct 15 2002 12:08 pm
- City, State: Rimrock, Arizona
Over The Edge, 2014
We had our first visitor of the season go over the edge today. Apparently he climbed over the retaining wall near the flagpole behind El Tovar to take a photo ... he fell and died. No details yet.
Last week we had the 59 year old Coloradan die of a heart attack at the South Entrance ... before that we had bones discovered near the Hermit Creek drainage that are thought to be of a Tucson man missing for several years ... and a couple months ago, the woman killed in an auto accident while her driver was speeding on the icy South Entrance Road.
And so the season has officially begun ... be careful out there, folks!
Last week we had the 59 year old Coloradan die of a heart attack at the South Entrance ... before that we had bones discovered near the Hermit Creek drainage that are thought to be of a Tucson man missing for several years ... and a couple months ago, the woman killed in an auto accident while her driver was speeding on the icy South Entrance Road.
And so the season has officially begun ... be careful out there, folks!
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 594 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,483 d
- Joined: Oct 28 2003 11:20 am
- City, State: Andover, NJ
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
That's too many, too soon. 

contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 77 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 770 d
- Joined: Jan 21 2006 6:46 am
- City, State: Eagar AZ
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
Who was the Tucson man? There was also a Tucson man lost on Mount Baldy in the White Mountains a couple of summers ago. There was a reward if you found his remains. I never did go look, but I heard that a lot of people were out there last summer, when the reward went to $20K. Come to think of it, this dry winter would have been a good time to look. There was a considerable period of time when there was no snow up there.
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
cactuscatGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 3Triplogs Last: 71 d | RS: 26Water Reports 1Y: 2 | Last: 101 d
- Joined: Oct 15 2002 12:08 pm
- City, State: Rimrock, Arizona
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
@azbackpackr
ISB is not releasing the name pending DNA confirmation ... but the man they think it is, is a homeless man who went missing from Tucson in 2010.
ISB is not releasing the name pending DNA confirmation ... but the man they think it is, is a homeless man who went missing from Tucson in 2010.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
writelotsGuides: 19 | Official Routes: 3Triplogs Last: 1,161 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,161 d
- Joined: Nov 22 2005 2:20 pm
- City, State: Tucson, AZ
- Contact:
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
@cactuscat
As I was climbing out on BA trail on the 11th, I watched a young lady climb out on a scary ledge for a photo (one past the "Dangerous Cliff" sign). When she went to stand up, she lost her balance a little and teetered toward the 50' drop in front of her. I thought about how awful it would be to witness one of these "canyon" deaths - I can't even imagine how devastating it would be.
As I was climbing out on BA trail on the 11th, I watched a young lady climb out on a scary ledge for a photo (one past the "Dangerous Cliff" sign). When she went to stand up, she lost her balance a little and teetered toward the 50' drop in front of her. I thought about how awful it would be to witness one of these "canyon" deaths - I can't even imagine how devastating it would be.
-----------------------------------
Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.- Barack Obama
Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.- Barack Obama
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
cactuscatGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 3Triplogs Last: 71 d | RS: 26Water Reports 1Y: 2 | Last: 101 d
- Joined: Oct 15 2002 12:08 pm
- City, State: Rimrock, Arizona
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
@writelots
I see people go out there all the time! Once it was a guy I had a friendly chat with on the way up - I scolded him pretty good for going out there ... mentioned that even if he didn't fall, maybe someone who saw him and decided to go out as well would - then my friends would have to risk their lives to try to rescue them or recover their body ... thinking of it that way really makes me mad!
Also, people fall that way often - sitting on edge, then lose their balance as they stand up. I always scoot back from the edge a bit before I stand.
I see people go out there all the time! Once it was a guy I had a friendly chat with on the way up - I scolded him pretty good for going out there ... mentioned that even if he didn't fall, maybe someone who saw him and decided to go out as well would - then my friends would have to risk their lives to try to rescue them or recover their body ... thinking of it that way really makes me mad!
Also, people fall that way often - sitting on edge, then lose their balance as they stand up. I always scoot back from the edge a bit before I stand.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
HippyGuides: 8 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 856 d | RS: 8Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,027 d
- Joined: Dec 02 2009 10:08 am
- City, State: Grand Canyon
- Contact:
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
the start of the local's only "Flagpole Route", it's so sad how these things happen in such safe areas.cactuscat wrote:he climbed over the retaining wall near the flagpole behind El Tovar to take a photo ... he fell and died

thanks for the updates Cat!
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
kingsnakeGuides: 116 | Official Routes: 113Triplogs Last: 29 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 3 | Last: 94 d
- Joined: Dec 20 2010 7:14 am
- City, State: Sunnyslope, PHX
- Contact:
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
Personally, I stay far away from edges ...
http://prestonm.com : Everyone's enjoyment of the outdoors is different and should be equally honored.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
UberdroogGuides: 2 | Official Routes: 2Triplogs Last: 62 d | RS: 61Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,694 d
- Joined: Jul 01 2011 2:44 am
- City, State: Wexford, PA
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
I'm with you on that one.kingsnake wrote:Personally, I stay far away from edges ...
Being terrified of heights helps too. One day I will test a the Canyon...

contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 77 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 770 d
- Joined: Jan 21 2006 6:46 am
- City, State: Eagar AZ
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
@Uberdroog
Hiking down the Bright Angel trail would be a good start. Not scary at all.
Hiking down the Bright Angel trail would be a good start. Not scary at all.
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
garyc57Guides: 0 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 158 d | RS: 26Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,430 d
- Joined: Mar 20 2010 7:30 am
- City, State: Mesa, AZ
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
If I may jump in... My wife (as a 20ish college student) hiked down Bright Angel to the river and back (with an overnight stay) as part of her geology class. A few years ago, as a 50ish mother of 8, we took a few steps down Bright Angel, she immediately started getting vertigo, and we stopped and retreated to the rim.azbackpackr wrote:Not scary at all.
It's interesting how time changes things.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
HippyGuides: 8 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 856 d | RS: 8Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,027 d
- Joined: Dec 02 2009 10:08 am
- City, State: Grand Canyon
- Contact:
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
http://www.nps.gov/grca/parknews/fatali ... tified.htm
Our 2nd loss from the rim happened a few days ago...
I was at the visitor center when this happened, I could hear the shouts from the flagpole
my coworker was having lunch near Mather Pt and witnessed it, he called NPS dispatch in a state of shock.
It was only 2 days before that I made sure all my coworkers had the 2 main emergency numbers in their cell phones!!
Our 2nd loss from the rim happened a few days ago...

I was at the visitor center when this happened, I could hear the shouts from the flagpole

It was only 2 days before that I made sure all my coworkers had the 2 main emergency numbers in their cell phones!!
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
SredfieldGuides: 4 | Official Routes: 4Triplogs Last: 49 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 503 d
- Joined: Sep 08 2002 1:07 pm
- City, State: Ahwatukee, AZ
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
Was it a fall?
Shawn
The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see.
The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 77 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 770 d
- Joined: Jan 21 2006 6:46 am
- City, State: Eagar AZ
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
They never will tell you in the news release if it was an accidental fall or suicide.
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
hippiepunkpirateGuides: 25 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 272 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 3,645 d
- Joined: May 30 2008 7:43 am
- City, State: Peoria, AZ
- Contact:
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
@Sredfield
Word on the street is that it was a suicide, but I'm making no guarantees on it.
Word on the street is that it was a suicide, but I'm making no guarantees on it.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 77 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 770 d
- Joined: Jan 21 2006 6:46 am
- City, State: Eagar AZ
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
It is just so very sad. I feel bad for her and her family.
http://azstarnet.com/lifestyles/announc ... 43796.html
http://azstarnet.com/lifestyles/announc ... 43796.html
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes


-
te_waGuides: 3 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 1,666 d | RS: 2Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,866 d
- Joined: Aug 22 2003 9:16 pm
- City, State: Mesa
Re: Over The Edge, 2014
naw, man. the canyon just got deeper.garyc57 wrote:If I may jump in... My wife (as a 20ish college student) hiked down Bright Angel to the river and back (with an overnight stay) as part of her geology class. A few years ago, as a 50ish mother of 8, we took a few steps down Bright Angel, she immediately started getting vertigo, and we stopped and retreated to the rim.
by a millimeter, but still... lol
im not a fan of heights either. no rock climbing for me.
squirrel!
contribute to this member driven resource
ie: RS > Save/Share after hikes

