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Over The Edge, 2014

Post by cactuscat » Mar 15 2014 11:00 pm

We had our first visitor of the season go over the edge today. Apparently he climbed over the retaining wall near the flagpole behind El Tovar to take a photo ... he fell and died. No details yet.
Last week we had the 59 year old Coloradan die of a heart attack at the South Entrance ... before that we had bones discovered near the Hermit Creek drainage that are thought to be of a Tucson man missing for several years ... and a couple months ago, the woman killed in an auto accident while her driver was speeding on the icy South Entrance Road.
And so the season has officially begun ... be careful out there, folks!
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by big_load » Mar 15 2014 11:10 pm

That's too many, too soon. :(

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Post by azbackpackr » Mar 16 2014 7:19 am

Who was the Tucson man? There was also a Tucson man lost on Mount Baldy in the White Mountains a couple of summers ago. There was a reward if you found his remains. I never did go look, but I heard that a lot of people were out there last summer, when the reward went to $20K. Come to think of it, this dry winter would have been a good time to look. There was a considerable period of time when there was no snow up there.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by cactuscat » Mar 16 2014 9:51 am

@azbackpackr
ISB is not releasing the name pending DNA confirmation ... but the man they think it is, is a homeless man who went missing from Tucson in 2010.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by writelots » Mar 16 2014 10:33 am

@cactuscat
As I was climbing out on BA trail on the 11th, I watched a young lady climb out on a scary ledge for a photo (one past the "Dangerous Cliff" sign). When she went to stand up, she lost her balance a little and teetered toward the 50' drop in front of her. I thought about how awful it would be to witness one of these "canyon" deaths - I can't even imagine how devastating it would be.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by cactuscat » Mar 16 2014 10:56 am

@writelots
I see people go out there all the time! Once it was a guy I had a friendly chat with on the way up - I scolded him pretty good for going out there ... mentioned that even if he didn't fall, maybe someone who saw him and decided to go out as well would - then my friends would have to risk their lives to try to rescue them or recover their body ... thinking of it that way really makes me mad!
Also, people fall that way often - sitting on edge, then lose their balance as they stand up. I always scoot back from the edge a bit before I stand.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by Hippy » Mar 19 2014 12:52 pm

cactuscat wrote:he climbed over the retaining wall near the flagpole behind El Tovar to take a photo ... he fell and died
the start of the local's only "Flagpole Route", it's so sad how these things happen in such safe areas. :(
thanks for the updates Cat!

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Post by kingsnake » Mar 19 2014 12:56 pm

Personally, I stay far away from edges ...
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by Droog » Mar 19 2014 3:49 pm

kingsnake wrote:Personally, I stay far away from edges ...
I'm with you on that one.

Being terrified of heights helps too. One day I will test a the Canyon... :scared:

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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by azbackpackr » Mar 19 2014 4:03 pm

@Uberdroog
Hiking down the Bright Angel trail would be a good start. Not scary at all.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by garyc57 » Mar 20 2014 12:21 pm

azbackpackr wrote:Not scary at all.
If I may jump in... My wife (as a 20ish college student) hiked down Bright Angel to the river and back (with an overnight stay) as part of her geology class. A few years ago, as a 50ish mother of 8, we took a few steps down Bright Angel, she immediately started getting vertigo, and we stopped and retreated to the rim.

It's interesting how time changes things.

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Post by Hippy » May 02 2014 11:22 pm

http://www.nps.gov/grca/parknews/fatali ... tified.htm

Our 2nd loss from the rim happened a few days ago... :(

I was at the visitor center when this happened, I could hear the shouts from the flagpole :( my coworker was having lunch near Mather Pt and witnessed it, he called NPS dispatch in a state of shock.

It was only 2 days before that I made sure all my coworkers had the 2 main emergency numbers in their cell phones!!

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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by Sredfield » May 03 2014 7:25 pm

Was it a fall?
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by azbackpackr » May 03 2014 7:27 pm

They never will tell you in the news release if it was an accidental fall or suicide.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by hippiepunkpirate » May 03 2014 8:23 pm

@Sredfield
Word on the street is that it was a suicide, but I'm making no guarantees on it.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by azbackpackr » May 04 2014 7:18 am

It is just so very sad. I feel bad for her and her family.
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Re: Over The Edge, 2014

Post by te_wa » May 04 2014 2:15 pm

garyc57 wrote:If I may jump in... My wife (as a 20ish college student) hiked down Bright Angel to the river and back (with an overnight stay) as part of her geology class. A few years ago, as a 50ish mother of 8, we took a few steps down Bright Angel, she immediately started getting vertigo, and we stopped and retreated to the rim.
naw, man. the canyon just got deeper.
by a millimeter, but still... lol

im not a fan of heights either. no rock climbing for me.
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