Tortoise-murderer on the loose
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neilendsGuides: 8 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 1,708 d | RS: 2Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 3,908 d
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Tortoise-murderer on the loose
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 594 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,483 d
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
Unfortunately, some people will shoot anything that's not another person.
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RowdyandMeGuides: 7 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: none | RS: 620Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 740 d
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
@big_load
I told my wife I could never kill any animal even if it bit me. Killing another person not so hard if they are low lifes. You know child molsters, animal abuser, bullies.
I told my wife I could never kill any animal even if it bit me. Killing another person not so hard if they are low lifes. You know child molsters, animal abuser, bullies.

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jochalGuides: 2 | Official Routes: 3Triplogs Last: 42 d | RS: 1Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: never
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
Not that it makes it right, but I'm wondering if it was a stray bullet. I haven't read anything indicating whether it was shot more than once.
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
This made me reflect on last June, when I did some work at China Lake NWS. We got some training on working in tortoise habitat, which culminated in a short test. It included instructions on what to do if you accidentally harmed a tortoise on base. The penalty for doing so intentionally was pretty steep. I can't imagine a fully mature person doing this, but the world is packed with less than fully mature people.
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 594 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,483 d
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
It's pretty hard to be that unlucky.jochal wrote:Not that it makes it right, but I'm wondering if it was a stray bullet. I haven't read anything indicating whether it was shot more than once.
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joebartelsGuides: 264 | Official Routes: 226Triplogs Last: 5 d | RS: 1960Water Reports 1Y: 14 | Last: 8 d
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
If it's by the Sycamore / Sugarloaf area...
from the Sugarloaf description
from the Sugarloaf description
Probably less activity in the summer. Seems a dead body was found there a decade or so ago tooMany people may find this hike to be disturbing due to all the gunfire. I heard 22 cal, assault rifle, 50 caliber, shotguns and even a few sticks of dynamite in the short 3 hours this took.

- joe
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BradshawsGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 2,800 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 4,213 d
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
@jochal
The first report that I heard was that the tortoise was shot at least 4 times
The first report that I heard was that the tortoise was shot at least 4 times
“ you know what I think?... It doesn’t matter what I think”
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hippiepunkpirateGuides: 25 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 272 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 3,645 d
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
Denny better watch his back...
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FOTGGuides: 37 | Official Routes: 103Triplogs Last: 14 d | RS: 190Water Reports 1Y: 50 | Last: 6 d
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Re: Tortoise-murderer on the loose
Would this be classified as herpacide? ;)
Wait too soon?
Wait too soon?
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