From Bear to Bull (and this is not about investments) ;)
Have you done the full trip from Bear to Bull? If so, how long did it take you?
I'm thinking that I need another challenge like the Four Peaks traverse was for me a few years ago. This one may prove to be quite challenging just due to the logistics with time. It seems like I will need to do several out and backs (which I have already done and now I'm hooked) or just go for it... The problem is I will have to complete it in 3 days because those are my days off. Maybe I should take a few extra days off to be safe..? I'm not sure that it is possibe for me, right now.
If you don't know me and I sound nuts, I am.
-BUT- I am also a very determined, strong hiker with climbing and canyoneering experience.
Your thoughts, comments, and criticism is always appreciated.
:A1: Janelle
West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
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West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
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Re: West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ :: Questi
BTW: it would also be nice to post the GPS with route time etc...
I never use a GPS so I may have to risk killing my iPhone (with an accidental water exposure) while utilizing Joe's AWESOME new GPS app. Unless @Chumley wants to route document this like 4 Peaks.
You would think the route is obvious but there is a maze of rocks, brush and water down in that canyon! The walls may make the gps route a bit off which may mean I will have to go by memory...
I can do that!
Oh- yes I have read the AZ canyoneering books about this
I never use a GPS so I may have to risk killing my iPhone (with an accidental water exposure) while utilizing Joe's AWESOME new GPS app. Unless @Chumley wants to route document this like 4 Peaks.
You would think the route is obvious but there is a maze of rocks, brush and water down in that canyon! The walls may make the gps route a bit off which may mean I will have to go by memory...
I can do that!

Oh- yes I have read the AZ canyoneering books about this
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Re: West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
Guarantee I'd be the HELL outta the water in 3 days! Some may want to relax more with 4 or 5 days. That said I'd allocate 4 days. Even if you get out in 3, day 4 might be a blur. While you certainly don't need a gps for navigation it would be nice to know your progress to stay on pace. If you're better at map reading than most you could target Tank Draw day 1 then Bald Hill day 2.
It's definitely every bit of 25 miles. Probably several miles more when you factor in bouncing around side to side. Kelly from Joseph City has a detailed description from Willow which may be beneficial to read.
It's definitely every bit of 25 miles. Probably several miles more when you factor in bouncing around side to side. Kelly from Joseph City has a detailed description from Willow which may be beneficial to read.
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Re: West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
Looks like it'd be a fun trip. I'm with Joe on getting out in 3 days, though it'd be a bit rough for sure. You'll definitely want to make sure the weather will be good too. You don't want to be stuck in the canyon if a storm comes through.
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Re: West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
I've done a full descent including all the main tributaries (Willow Valley, Clover Creek canyon, Toms Creek canyon), but the only overnight/camping in the canyon was on the section from the White Box / Hanging Gardens entry down to the Bull Pen exit, which my son and I did in 2 moderate days. The remaining sections I've done as day hikes using a variety of entry/exit points. Overall, I would say that a fit, determined canyoneer will average about one mile per hour in WCC, so if you were on the move for 10-12 hours per day, 3 days would be tough but doable from the Point Trail entry. GPS can be very spotty in many places, and if you're doing it as a thru-trip there's no need for GPS for navigation, just go light and keep a good pace going all day long. Make sure that at some point you also do Willow Valley down to Point Trail, its also excellent.
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Re: West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
We've been there 3 times but many moons ago. Why not do cash tank entry to BP exit in 2/3 days? And perhaps do the other "half" later
I'd recommend this.
I'd recommend this.
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Re: West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
I'm confused about which entry/exit Cash Tank is. Is that the one just upstream from White Box, hanging gardens?
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Re: West Clear Creek - Bear Canyon to Bull Pen, AZ
@Hikergirl81
Yes, Cash Tank is the one just above White Box.
Yes, Cash Tank is the one just above White Box.
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