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JasonCleghornGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 4Triplogs Last: 832 d | RS: 8Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 832 d - Joined: Nov 11 2014 1:03 pm
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If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
into a Wilderness area, i.e. 'leading them' on a 'guided tour', including the day and time, what would YOU do, if anything?
I'm asking from the moral/ethical/mind your own business angle...
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I'm asking from the moral/ethical/mind your own business angle...
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
Precisely my thoughts. Perhaps they will remember there is a private messaging function.Jim_H wrote:What the hell are you two talking about?
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty & well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming, "Wow What a Ride!"
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
FWIW, for those that participated in this thread, I noticed today on the Zuckerbook that he has 'changed his mind' and will only be taking 15 people into the Wilderness...
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
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Not on said website, but I heard it was just a trip to the Wave Cave anyways, looks like about .7 to .8 miles within wilderness boundary, I think most legitimate hikers could care less about the size of crowds at the Wave Cave, its a touristy area and is expected...better them there, than somewhere else IMO...
Not on said website, but I heard it was just a trip to the Wave Cave anyways, looks like about .7 to .8 miles within wilderness boundary, I think most legitimate hikers could care less about the size of crowds at the Wave Cave, its a touristy area and is expected...better them there, than somewhere else IMO...
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
It was... Originally I just saw/heard Superstition Wilderness, I probably could have read better! I guess still it had some purpose, but you're right.friendofThundergod wrote:@JasonCleghorn
Not on said website, but I heard it was just a trip to the Wave Cave anyways, looks like about .7 to .8 miles within wilderness boundary, I think most legitimate hikers could care less about the size of crowds at the Wave Cave, its a touristy area and is expected...better them there, than somewhere else IMO...
So yeah, I was a little embarrassed when I found out it was Wave Cave but I'd rather err on the side of helping nature in general than the opposite. But I totally understand your point and agree with it.
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
However, maybe the thread was a wake-up call to those who prefer lemming hikes.
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
interesting tidbit I just read in Superstition Wilderness Trails West
Groups of fifteen must be separated on the trail by at least 30 minutes. The separated groups must camp out of sight of each other. ( sounds like texting is ok )
It was a Primitive Area in 1939
Groups of fifteen must be separated on the trail by at least 30 minutes. The separated groups must camp out of sight of each other. ( sounds like texting is ok )
It was a Primitive Area in 1939
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Re: If you knew that someone will be taking 20-30 people
So apparently Reavis Ranch is now closed.joebartels wrote:The separated groups must camp out of sight of each other.
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