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Now they have to change the BCO code to CHG I guess?
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@hikeaz
If you have been paying attention to anything going on in the broader culture or the US Federal Government over the last few years, this will come as no surprise. Ridiculous? Absurd? Meaningless? Having no real impact on anything and only serving to cost money and irritate rational people? Yes, to all of them. Stemming from the politically correct "Woke" culture that has ideologically captured the system and is evoking memories of the same sort of renaming which carried out in the Soviet Union? Yes.

Fun Fact! The US Government still refers to "Native Americans", as "American Indians", on legal documents. https://www.bia.gov/jobs/Indian_Preference So, why is, "Indian Gardens", offensive? Don't try to understand it with logic. Instead, use a purely emotional method, like the most histrionic would, and then you can begin to approach understanding why it is. Pathos over Logos, always. Always.

Hey, at least they didn't do what Phoenix did and rename, "Squaw Peak", which I, as an outsider would never have guessed meant, "native aerobic-instructor", after a woman of native American descent. Was that irony lost on the renaming committee? Phoenix Mountain might have been better, to me. What do I know?
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Who cares? :lol:
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I’m just looking forward to reading the inevitable reports of hikers arriving there only to be disappointed by the lack of beautiful waterfalls they were expecting to find.
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chumley wrote: Nov 21 2022 5:17 pm I’m just looking forward to reading the inevitable reports of hikers arriving there only to be disappointed by the lack of beautiful waterfalls they were expecting to find.
Especially the "Instagram set" after being shut out of the 'real' Havasupai permits.... they will think they 'sneaked in'. Of course they will exclaim "Where are all the Indians?".
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Jim_H wrote:Stemming from the politically correct "Woke" culture that has ideologically captured the system and is evoking memories of the same sort of renaming which carried out in the Soviet Union?
You sound like you're a lot of fun to be around.
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I'm fine with the name change. Personally, I really don't care either way, but I will say, I'm not going to rush out and buy an updated Grand Canyon map.
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@Jim_H
Right on !
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Date: Thursday, September 8, 2022
WASHINGTON — The Department of the Interior today announced the Board on Geographic Names (BGN) has voted on the final replacement names for nearly 650 geographic features featuring the word sq___. The final vote completes the last step in the historic efforts to remove a term from federal use
https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/inter ... ederal-use
This page lists all 66 place names in Arizona that have been updated: https://edits.nationalmap.gov/apps/gaz- ... l-sq-names
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Good time to be a gubment-contracted sign maker.
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@chumley
Wow, sq___ is so verboten you can't even write the whole word anymore!
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Yep the kinda crap world we live in now. So I'll write this out for you, it seems our famous Squaw perks (HAZ edit) has been renamed Isanaklesk Peaks. Here is a nice article from a Native perspective, which I'm sure will just be chalked up to being "woke".
https://indiancountrytoday.com/the-pres ... -years-ago
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Indian Country Today. Indian! Country. :lol: Indian Gardens bad. Must change name. Indian Country Today is A-Ok.
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Huh I thought you blocked me. So you focused on the name Indian Country Today but not what the article was about?
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Is a name change for Wet Beaver on the horizon as well? lol
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SpiderLegs wrote: name change for Wet Beaver on the horizon as well?
Hopefully NO.
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@SpiderLegs
Because it's offensive to ... beavers?
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@SpiderLegs
I'm more interested in whether or not Dry Beaver Creek will be flowing this winter after some rains. Hiking that channel can be a bit harsh, otherwise.
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I have a geocache named, 1000' Above Little Squaw Creek. Should I change it to 1000' Above Odzilaayé Creek?
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