Forest Signs
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joebartelsGuides: 264 | Official Routes: 226Triplogs Last: 5 d | RS: 1962Water Reports 1Y: 14 | Last: 14 d
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Forest Signs
On page 150 of "Superstition Wilderness Trails East" it states the FS no longer puts mileage on signs. Anybody have any true inside info?
I wonder if it's only the Tonto?
Perhaps they get so many people with GPS calling in complaining? Kinda sad as I know from watching people post triplogs swearing by their GPS when it's absurdly off. A GPS route still must be combined with a real topo map to find an accurate medium.
The Ritas & GC have among the worst posted mileages I've witnessed from working data.
I wonder if it's only the Tonto?
Perhaps they get so many people with GPS calling in complaining? Kinda sad as I know from watching people post triplogs swearing by their GPS when it's absurdly off. A GPS route still must be combined with a real topo map to find an accurate medium.
The Ritas & GC have among the worst posted mileages I've witnessed from working data.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 242Triplogs Last: 11 d | RS: 66Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 13 d
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Re: Forest Signs
No dogs in Aravaipa either.
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Re: Forest Signs
JamesLyding wrote:The reason dogs aren't allowed in the Pusch Ridge Wilderness is to protect the desert bighorn sheep that are allegedly there
I can actually corroborate that they're there. Ain't seen em, but I've heard em.
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Re: Forest Signs
I saw the tail-end of one about ten years ago; we see what might be tracks from time-to-time in the upper sections...dysfunction wrote:JamesLyding wrote:The reason dogs aren't allowed in the Pusch Ridge Wilderness is to protect the desert bighorn sheep that are allegedly there
I can actually corroborate that they're there. Ain't seen em, but I've heard em.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 242Triplogs Last: 11 d | RS: 66Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 13 d
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Re: Forest Signs
Sometimes I've noticed that too, but I just posted a few photosets with signs that are specific to tenths of a mile. And all were surprisingly accurate to what I ended up measuring. Perhaps its specific to ranger district? (My photosets are all on the Peaks district of Coconino)Sredfield wrote:I've noticed the FS signs are never more precise than the half mile. Funny how all the junctions fall to exactly the mile or half mile mark.
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azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 83 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 776 d
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Re: Forest Signs
I did see one on the Pima Canyon trail over 10 years ago, but it was AFTER the G&F dept people said they were all gone.
People were saying they actually may have crossed 77 and moved over to the Tortolitas and beyond. That was before all the latest in crass commercial development in that corridor.
People were saying they actually may have crossed 77 and moved over to the Tortolitas and beyond. That was before all the latest in crass commercial development in that corridor.
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JeffshadowsGuides: 28 | Official Routes: 7Triplogs Last: 4,053 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 4,211 d
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Re: Forest Signs
That's usually where we spot signs of them.azbackpackr wrote:I did see one on the Pima Canyon trail over 10 years ago, but it was AFTER the G&F dept people said they were all gone.
People were saying they actually may have crossed 77 and moved over to the Tortolitas and beyond. That was before all the latest in crass commercial development in that corridor.
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Re: Forest Signs
Back on topic and off my soapbox: Never trust the mileage on the signs in the Santa Ritas. I think the "Friends of the Santa Ritas" put many of those in and they are almost universally incorrect. Those guys are a great group that does a lot of really wonderful work down there but they desperately need a GPS!! 

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joebartelsGuides: 264 | Official Routes: 226Triplogs Last: 5 d | RS: 1962Water Reports 1Y: 14 | Last: 14 d
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Re: Forest Signs
Albeit the worst rationalization on mileage, they do know how to make a sign that lasts!Jeff MacE wrote:Friends of the Santa Ritas
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Re: Forest Signs
Yea, nicely cut with a torch through 3/8" steel plate. Very good, indeed!joe bartels wrote:Albeit the worst rationalization on mileage, they do know how to make a sign that lasts!Jeff MacE wrote:Friends of the Santa Ritas
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 242Triplogs Last: 11 d | RS: 66Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 13 d
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Re: Forest Signs
Fantastic. The longest-lasting signs are wrong. ](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif)
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Re: Forest Signs
They should put on there, "You're mileage may vary" 

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Re: Forest Signs
chumley wrote:Fantastic. The longest-lasting signs are wrong.
If you wanna carry up a few car batteries we could fix em...

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That *would* be a nice touch!Chistophe wrote:They should put on there, "You're mileage may vary"
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Re: Forest Signs
Last year the sign for the Elden Lookout Trail said 3 miles to the lookout, but this year they changed the sign so it says 2.5 miles.
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Re: Forest Signs
Some trails may be closer than they appear.Chistophe wrote:They should put on there, "You're mileage may vary"
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Re: Forest Signs
chumley wrote:Some trails may be closer than they appear.
I've been on a few of those ;)
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Re: Forest Signs
What moved?hippiepunkpirate wrote:Last year the sign for the Elden Lookout Trail said 3 miles to the lookout, but this year they changed the sign so it says 2.5 miles.

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