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I'd say pepper spray. It's not leathal, easier to dispense, lighter in weight, can't kill you if you accidently discharge it and is much less tempting to a childjeremy77777 wrote:Now unless you have been threatened and held at knife piont in the middle of the woods or had another bad incident with a brigand of some kind you wouldn't really understand. I hope none of you ever have to experience it. Think about it. If a guy has a gun and you don't, you are pretty much at his mercy. Your wife is his for the taking. Or maybe your daughter or girlfriend will be his next victim. And to you gals. What would you do if there were 2 or 3 of you hiking and a man jumps out with a knife and tells you to do what he says. What are you gonna do?
Again, I don't get why a gun is necessary, plus the tag line of "however I see fit" feeds into the gun crazies mentality...could be just your choice of words, but words like that are powerful.jeremy77777 wrote: If I came upon helpless women being attacked by a thug, you can bet I wouldn't hesitate to use my weapon to get control of the situation however I see fit.
I hate to be the guy pissing into the wind here, but guns are not the law. Unless of course you are "a member of a well regulated militia in defense of a free state"...I know, I know, we can all interpret the constitution to feed our own perspective, but come on...jeremy77777 wrote: Guns are the law.
How would anyone else be able to know if they are just having fun? I mean, that's a strong presumption.jeremy77777 wrote: Now there are peole who take the BDU thing a bit too far but I'm sure they are just enjoying themselves and having a little fun.
This argument is hard to make in light of the recent news about the guy fending off a mountain line with a pocket knife. In the dozen or so snake encounters I've had, never did I feel the need to kill the snake, nor do I think I would have been a fast enough "draw" to take it out. I guess I've always found that wildlife would rather not be around humans, unless the humans are screwing around with the wildlife.jeremy77777 wrote: They are also used for protection against wild animals. Have any of you ever been attacked by a mountain lion? Javelina? Rattlesnake? Well if you haven't had that opprotunity yet, you are pretty lucky. But when you do have the misfortune of being attacked you will be more than happy to use your gun to protect yourself.
I'm one of those guys. However I base my opinion not on where I am from or some type of fear, but rather on the fact that there are many other excellent ways someone can defend themselves. Additionally, my opinion comes in light of the shear number of senseless deaths as a result of (1) kids getting their hands on their parents weapons (2) gun owners irresposiblity .ie firing into the air? (3) lack of any legitimate regulation on the sale and training of gun owners. There is no way to trust that a gun owner is responsible.jeremy77777 wrote:One thing I am really getting sick of is people moving here from back east somewhere and bringing their "guns should be banned" attitude with them. So many people hate guns or are scared of them and that's probably because they don't understand them or have never used one. I say guns are important tools and everyone should own one and know how to use it. .
I'd rather they take self-defense courses and lessen the chance of them harming themselves with their own weapon.jeremy77777 wrote: I really would like to see more women taking gun courses and hanging out at the firing ranges, especially with violent crime rates being as high as they are. .
I don't want to emulate criminals, the fact they they are armed doesn't make me want to arm myself with a gun, rather, I get that same sense of security from pepperspray and my own self-defense skills.jeremy77777 wrote: I love guns and the security they give me and the protection they have given me in the past. If you don't like guns, fine. Don't buy one. But just remember that criminals carry guns and knives. Shouldn't you? :idea:
I'd say that Fritzski would be the resident HAZ expert on all things Sups, he'll probably have plenty to say...pixelfrog wrote: On that tangent does anyone know of anyone who still seriously looks for the lost dutchman's mine?