camelback bee attack

trekkin_gecko · Post by **trekkin_gecko** » Oct 29 2012 5:49 pm

just saw this on the news:

http://www.kpho.com/story/19947662/hike ... ed-by-bees

cactuscat · Post by **cactuscat** » Oct 29 2012 5:55 pm

That's a shame.
Do you know where this "Ice Box Canyon" area is?
That's the exact same way that the climber on the Hart Route was killed a few years back - fell off because he was attacked by bees.
Scary.
Bees scare me more than any other creature in the desert, because they are so unpredictable ...

trekkin_gecko · Post by **trekkin_gecko** » Oct 29 2012 5:58 pm

i don't know where exactly this happened
very scary and so sad that this man fell to his death
will be curious if any haz members were on camelback this afternoon
news reports were a little short on details

Trishness · Post by **Trishness** » Oct 29 2012 6:15 pm

This is very sad and my heart goes out to the family of the hiker who fell as well as his hiking partners.

But I think I recall a story from 3-4 yrs ago (maybe it was more yrs than that) of some climbers on Camelback that encountered a nest of stinging bees. It could have been Echo Canyon area but I'm not certain.

Trish

cactuscat · Post by **cactuscat** » Oct 29 2012 6:24 pm

@Trishness

Thats the one I was talking about - it was on the Hart Route.

trekkin_gecko · Post by **trekkin_gecko** » Oct 29 2012 6:37 pm

the climbing incident happened in 2004

Trishness · Post by **Trishness** » Oct 29 2012 7:00 pm

trekkin gecko wrote:the climbing incident happened in 2004

Oh My......I thought it was just a few years back

TT

big_load · Post by **big_load** » Oct 29 2012 8:02 pm

Trishness wrote:
trekkin gecko wrote:the climbing incident happened in 2004
Oh My......I thought it was just a few years back

TT

To me qualifies as just a few years. The prospect of an attack with limited options to flee is frightening.

kevinweitzel75 · Post by **kevinweitzel75** » Oct 30 2012 6:34 am

News said that Ice Box is off of the Echo Canyon trail. Very sad situation.

cw50must · Post by **cw50must** » Oct 30 2012 8:29 am

Trishness wrote:
trekkin gecko wrote:the climbing incident happened in 2004
Oh My......I thought it was just a few years back

TT

There was the one in 2004, but looks like a minor incident in 2010 too.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valley ... nail_r.php

paulshikleejr · Post by **paulshikleejr** » Oct 30 2012 10:17 am

Here is another article from the New Times (specifically on yesterday's attack) that provides more geographic detail:

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valley ... r_dies.php

trekkin_gecko · Post by **trekkin_gecko** » Oct 30 2012 10:44 am

very informative, thanks for the post
didn't know exactly where icebox canyon was located
think i will stay away from the headwall for a few weeks

cactuscat · Post by **cactuscat** » Oct 30 2012 1:03 pm

Very close to the Hart Route - seems like that is a troublesome area.

outdoor_lover · Post by **outdoor_lover** » Oct 30 2012 1:06 pm

Haven't a few HAZers posted pics of a Bee Hive up there somewhere? Wonder if it's the same area. Seems like the Hive has been there for a couple of years at least.....I just don't remember who posted the last picture of it.....

joebartels · Post by **joebartels** » Oct 30 2012 1:26 pm

there was mention a few months ago by the area between the rails - marked with a yellow flag
Not sure what "Icebox" canyon is... guessing - marked with yellow diamond
http://hikearizona.com/images/screensho ... COM-01.png
http://hikearizona.com/images/screensho ... COM-02.png

oceanwithin · Post by **oceanwithin** » Oct 30 2012 5:34 pm

So sad to hear this, per the link on the Phx New Times story, the guy who fell was only 19.
On the Camelback climbing map, there is no Ice Box Canyon but there is a 5.9 route called IceBox.

paulshikleejr · Post by **paulshikleejr** » Oct 31 2012 11:17 pm

Is the "Camelback climbing map" online somewhere?

cactuscat · Post by **cactuscat** » Nov 01 2012 1:36 am

@paulshikleejr
Assuming she's refering to Marty Karabin's foldout map, it's available to buy for about $5 at REI.

oceanwithin · Post by **oceanwithin** » Nov 01 2012 11:28 am

cactuscat wrote:@paulshikleejr
Assuming she's refering to Marty Karabin's foldout map, it's available to buy for about $5 at REI.

Yup, that's the one I was looking at.

trekkin_gecko · Post by **trekkin_gecko** » Apr 01 2015 6:56 pm

resurrecting this post because i read on mountain project that a climber was attacked by bees on monday
bailed off the hart route, leaving all of his gear
250+ stings
nothing in the news that i can find
the "bees in the area" signs are posted at the trailhead, but didn't see any on tuesday

in the same forum, someone noted that there was a swarm or a hive in the west chimney on weaver's needle
he rapped down in a hurry, leaving his rope
bee careful out there

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