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Pine Canyon / Geronimo LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Backpack avatar Aug 17 2011
Backpack20.20 Miles 4,519 AEG
Backpack20.20 Miles   11 Hrs      1.84 mph
4,519 ft AEG8 LBS Pack
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Im giving this loop high marks. It's rugged, solitary, and changes personality about 5 times. Granted I hiked this loop on a Tues/Weds, but I only saw 2 hikers near the Pine TH and I'm guessing that the only ppl who have done this loop as described are likely Topohiker and a couple others. I saw no footprints, no tire marks, no litter save for a coors light can..

Topohiker's description was pretty close. I'll only add that when ascending the E. Rim trail you will need hands on scrambling and it may be a little too sketchy for those wary of heights.
I also found the path of least resistance thru the locust plants when I reached the top of Milk Ranch Point. I simply went due east, then took an old road south/southeast until I reached the well maintained forest road 9283L that would take me to fr 218. Go South here and keep an eye out for some great car camping spots looking off the Rim to the east as far as you can see. About a 1/2 mile along this road, turn east onto the Webber Trail. It's a steep one, and by the time I had gotten to the bottom my knees were barkin' at me after climbing up MRP, and then down again. A fairly tough first day..
After hiking to the bottom of the trail, you'll come upon Geronimo camp and signs urge you to head south, to the highline intersection. Water is in the creek, I suggest you gather it in the upper reaches of Webber since near the Highline area its all muddy from area rains. Come to think of it, Webber is usually muddy, unlike most of the creeks around here.. hmm..
Once you get on the Highline, no worries on navigation. It's clearly used and travelled. From Webber, your next water source is Pine Spring. Go down into the gulley past the stock animal trough and look for water pools in the vicinity. This may be your last water source for the next 4.5 miles since Red Rock spring always tasted like Rust to me. I choose not to drink it.
I suggest doing this loop clockwise, get the hard part over with. It is definately a BIG day if you choose to dayhike it. See my photoset for a pictorial of the trail and comments that may be helpful as a 'visual' map.
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Pine Spring Red Rock Spring

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Dripping Springs Dripping Dripping
dripping, clear water at source otherwise a muddy catch/puddle

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Pine Spring Dripping Dripping
water in drainage about 30 yards downstream from trail

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Red Rock Spring Dripping Dripping
did not see any flow, but trough has water suitable for stock animals. 4" of clear water in August.
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