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Jun 27 2025
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 Phoenix, AZ
Tonto NarrowsPayson, AZ
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diabloTriplogs 47
Hiking7.81 Miles 1,018 AEG
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After my visit to “Tonto Narrows” last summer I was intrigued to go back but it was quite the price of admission to get into the area. I constructed a legal (I think) and easier route to the narrows that avoids all private property in the area. Left PHX at 5:30 in hopes to beat the heat to one of the closer swimming areas to Phoenix. It was hot even with a 7 AM start unfortunately. Made decent time to the narrows which we cooled off there before entering the gates of hell. I hoped to make it to the waterfall area others have shared here and with a few swims and about a mile we were there. Beautiful to see but would’ve been nicer with more flow and better lighting. Water was much colder here but plenty of places to jump. As always 15-18 inch fish swim in the pools below. After some relaxing time we headed back before one last stop at the narrows before the dreaded hike back which was hot and seemed more thorny than the way in. Back to the truck which read 97 degrees. Another amAZing day in Hellsgate.
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Jun 18 2022
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62 male
 Joined Dec 02 2014
 Mesa, AZ
Tonto NarrowsPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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adillingTriplogs 402
Canyoneering4.70 Miles 135 AEG
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It was time to visit Hellsgate Wilderness again and this section of Tonto Creek was awesome. A little scrambling to get there, then some water hiking/swiming and soaking in the views.

The last time I was in this area, a couple of local ranch dogs came along with this. This time, on cue, they joined us again. Must be a nice to have this place as your backyard.

We did not hike in too far, just past the first main pool. The weather was looking not so good for a canyon hike - dark clouds, on and off rains, so we opted to turn around and head back. Even a little bit of this place is more than most other places for sure.

A nice day in an beautiful and wild place.
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Sep 19 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
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emilystardustTriplogs 792
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Parked on 208, just to make sure we were keeping it safe and walked the road to the most recent route posted. We tried the official one last weekend but I wasn’t feeling it and we made a couple mistakes and abandoned the attempt. However on the walk out, someone drove by and asked if we needed anything, which gave me a good hint that there was in fact an access point there that didn’t cross private property. Two very friendly dogs helped us find the same route out that we took in this time :)
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Sep 12 2021
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Tonto NarrowsPayson, AZ
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emilystardustTriplogs 792
Canyoneering8.00 Miles 135 AEG
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May 18 2019
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54 male
 Joined Apr 13 2011
 Gilbert, AZ
Tonto NarrowsPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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ddgrunningTriplogs 605
Canyoneering5.61 Miles 1,796 AEG
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I'm not a real fan of bushwhacking, but I figured the destination was worth it. It was, but I'm not sure I'd do it again anytime soon. Although this route is apparently safe from any danger of crossing over private property lines, it's a pretty high price for admission.

We were the only ones there other than another group of three who clearly didn't pay the same admission price ....

Would love to have explored further up the creek, but we got a late start and knew we had an 1800 ft. aeg return trip awaiting us, so we called it to make sure we got back before dark.

Next time, I'd be inclined to try the alternate route posted by @mountainmatt

Neat place.
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Jun 01 2018
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Tonto NarrowsPayson, AZ
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MountainMattTriplogs 530
Canyoneering3.15 Miles 381 AEG
Canyoneering3.15 Miles   1 Hour   58 Mns   2.59 mph
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Quick little after work trip on a mission to photograph a scene of rapids I fondly remember from my first trip here.
Upon my arrival I encountered a few of the local ranch owners kids that were doing some party backpacking at what I call “Tonto Lake” just downstream from the rapids and a slick rock granite section.

Stayed until sunset and made it back to the truck moments before the headlamp was needed.

A quick 30 min drive in any direction from where I live leads to a multitude of diverse landscapes and ecosystems completely different from one another.

From the high country to the desert, I truly love Arizona and I’m blessed to call it my home for 26 years and counting! : rambo :
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May 26 2016
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Canyoneering5.40 Miles 1,036 AEG
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Canyon Hiking - Non-technical; no rope; easy scrambling; occasional hand use
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
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I spend a lot of my spare time researching seldom traveled places of Arizona that always involve waterfalls or cascades of some sort. I have a massive list of places I want to go and places I have been. So it's rare when I come across a waterfall in Arizona that I haven't at least seen a photo of or heard about and I don't know what took me so long to finally see, read and check out all the prior triplogs to the Tonto Narrows. I'm a sucker for a good swim hole and waterfalls and this place blew away my expectations. I had such a great day of swimming, cliff jumping and of course plenty of tripod time.

After a day a great day of playing around in paradise and staying too long as usual we finished the last mile of our hike in the dark. When making our final descent down the hillside I spotted a truck drive into the pullout we parked at and then proceeded to stay there for about 5min or so. *side not we were not parked on private property and stayed well clear of any private land throughout our entire hike. I thought it was very strange the truck did that so we got a lil giddy up in or step to make it back to the SUV with urgency. Upon our return to the vehicle we saw that no tires were slashed or any obvious damaged occurred, but boy were we in for a surprise! :sweat:
Cracked a cold one and ate a celebratory post hike doughnut while we changed out of our wet clothes and put the gear away. I got nice and settled in the passenger seat which is a complete rarity for me since there has literally been only 2 times in the last 5 years that someone else has drove to go out hiking instead of me so I was so happy to just relax and enjoy the drive home listening to some comforting tunes but my hopes were soon to be crushed!
Daniela hops in, closes her door, puts the key in the ignition to start it and NOTHING! ](*,)
She had just recently had her SUV serviced and even got a brand new battery installed and everything checked out. Her battery was fine and I honestly only know the basics when it comes to auto mechanics, I popped the hood to go inspect what it possibly could be but did not determine what the issue was. We really lucked out with having phone service and my Triple AAA Gold Card that is never used but that day it sure did come in handy!!!
It made for a long night riding back with a tow truck driver named Harold that smoked nearly 8-10 cigarettes within the start of our tow ride all the way back to Mesa lol. My SUV was safe and sound at her place the entire day but I still had to make the long drive back to Surprise to go see a pissed off dog and make sure I get enough to be sleep to be alive for work that day, I at least made it home by 2am. All in all it was such a great day in a place that seemed so out of place and unexpected and it was worth whatever ever Hillbilly Hoopla that possibly occurred to her vehicle, maybe it was nothing or maybe it was Ol Farmer John sending a message not to return. One thing is for sure though, I will definitely be back! :D
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Jun 01 2014
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 Wexford, PA
Tonto NarrowsPayson, AZ
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Canyoneering5.95 Miles 1,968 AEG
Canyoneering5.95 Miles   4 Hrs   41 Mns   1.66 mph
1,968 ft AEG   1 Hour   6 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
Canyon Hiking - Non-technical; no rope; easy scrambling; occasional hand use
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This was a good trip and closer than some other swim holes in AZ. I was a bit concerned because of all the things I read and we did not have the chance to call the park services. The dirt "road" easily accommodated the family minivan. I was a bit worried about vandalism but nothing and no notes were left on our vehicle. I am assuming all of this occurred at the previous entrance at the gates. There is no trail head to speak of. Once you park and make it over to the first set of hills there are some pretty clear paths heading up and over to the canyon decent. At this point is where I would highly suggest a GPS track from someone who has done this, it helped us tremendously. On the way down it would be easy to cliff out if the path is not chosen wisely. For the most part there are game trails weaving down but choosing the right one is key. Once in Houston Creek which was relatively dry, other than a few pools, it is easy peasy to the Tonto Narrows. I wish it was clearer how to get down and not trespass. There seems to be a fence past where the maps would say private land is. Going any father down just put us higher on the cliffs above where we wanted to be. We found an opening and made our way down. What a great spot. I am kinda glad this spot has been made a little more difficult to access. I wish fossil springs was also much harder to get to but that is for another time. We had a good afternoon of swimming and rock hoping. I need to get a fishing license and a pocket fisherman, there were some HUGE trout just waiting to be in ma belly :STP: .
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Some pools higher up with small fish
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Jun 01 2014
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Fun hike with the Droog. All off trail and boulder hopping. Drive in the Sand Creek wash was a little sketchy, but nothing too serious. Use/game trails led a good part of the way, GPS made things much easier to follow. Great swimming to be had once to the Tonto, lots of big carp and bass in the deeper areas to see.
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May 31 2014
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Tonto CreekPayson, AZ
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Two-day canyoneering trek through another beautiful and super rugged stretch of Hellsgate Wilderness, starting on Hellsgate 37 and exiting at Gisela. Water level was a bit lower than normal after the dry winter, but still very pleasant and warm enough that I didn't need the shorty wetsuit I brought. Tons of swimming required on this one, including several swims of over 200 yards. Hiked for about 11 hours each day, camped on a nice beach where Derrick Canyon enters from the west. Also used my new Sawyer Mini water filter for the first time, seems like a very cool product.

Once exiting The Narrows I skirted around the south side of some fenced private property, then wandered downstream in the rocky floodplain for about 3 miles, thrashing through some marshy areas, heading for a GPS point near the south end of Gisela where a public road accesses the creek (Windy Way according to the street sign, W Beach Rd according to Google maps). 15 minutes later my faithful shuttle driver arrived, I cleaned up and we headed for a monster Italian dinner at Gerardo's in Payson. Sweet.
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May 25 2013
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Only 2 out of 14 people thought they were going to die.
Those are still good odds and the rest of the group was solid so I count it as another success.
Like my movie watching memories now days, I seem to only remember the good parts and forget to pass on the rough stuff in the descriptions.

Thanks again Joe for the safe route. Seems like the canyon drop game trails have all but disappeared. I think just going straight up on the way out still wins out as the path of least resistance. The whole hike seems shorter to me each time :)

I just brought a waterproof gopro to hold on to and left all the fancy camera stuff from last time at home: http://hikearizona.com/photoset.php?ID=11690
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Tonto Narrows, 06-11-2011

I have been asked to do a write up by 3 different forums for our experience at the Narrows this weekend. So, here we go.

There were 3 different groups of 13-15 hikers in each group that attended with a different group Facilitator in each group. As most of you know already, I had first contacted the Payson Forest Ranger Office back in February of this year to find a legal way into the Narrows without having to bush whack nearly 5 miles each way from the North. So after speaking and emailing with two different Rangers, I was given instructions and directions and a local pdf Topo map from the Ranger Station to help us.

The Tonto Narrows was closed in 2009 because of the absolute trashing of this place. I am putting it mildly. There would be 75-100 people here on the weekends. These people would bring their children in diapers and you would see children like this running around. You would see drunks, and teenage drunks, and campfires unattended and left to burn out on their own. You would see these people with coolers of beer, and there would be bottles and broken bottles everywhere. Dirty diapers, diaper boxes, human waste, toilet paper, feminine napkins, and plastic bags strewn everywhere. Kids would wreck their cars when leaving this place, and get busted for DUI's and possession of drugs, and of course the injuries to people while under the influence. Idiots caught having shooting/firing practice near the Narrows. Then the some idiots had finally robbed the lady's home that owned the land where you would cross her private property to get to the Narrows. I guess the lady's Home Insurance carrier finally made her block of the entrance to the Narrows, which is Federally owned land. The narrows a magnificent gem, was being destroyed by rift raft. She even put a dumpster up for people to drop off their garbage in, and people would actually throw their garbage beside the dumpster instead of throwing it on the dumpster. This lady owns land that backs right up against the Narrows, about 250-300 yards away from the Narrows. So through this the small community of Gisela, other residents and the Fire Department also grew extremely tired of the antics.

So through May and June I had stayed in contact with the two Rangers and confirmed with the two Rangers no Status changed with the location, and they confirmed that no updates are applicable.

So on Saturday out we go. Here are the instructions from the 1 Ranger to me: The road up to the existing gate is an open public road. It is maintained by Gila County and only they could determine to post it "No Parking" if they deemed it necessary. Gila County has indicated that they have not posted this road and that the signs are not theirs. Therefore, it has been my advice to visitors that it is legal to park along the road. No one to my knowledge has been towed or cited for parking on the road, although some have received anonymous flyers warning that they could be. After you have parked near the gate, simply head east along the fenceline (staying south of the private property). You will drop into a large wash which is Tonto creek and climb out the other side. Then follow the fenceline (property boundary) north and you will end up right at the narrows. It is a relatively short and easy diversion as long as you can cross Tonto Creek (low-medium flows).
We produced a map at the Payson RD office that shows the road and the private land and you can easily see how to access the Narrows without trespassing on private land.


So, I will attach a copy of our GPS Track on the Trail. When you look at the GOS Track, you can see the fun and adventure we went on. The instructions given to us could have been a little more clear and accurate......lol.

The first thing one should know is that because of the Washes that lead through the area, Private Property lines do not have distinguishing fences going through the washes, as that would be pointless because several times a year when it floods out, the fence would be washes away. This I suppose may only be one of those hands on experience type of things. Lol. I mean it makes sense now, right? But the Instructions don't mention it.

So when you do begin the hike, yes it is barely a trail and in some spots there is no trail. I would classify this as a level 4 bushwhack in some spots. If level 4 is more difficult on the rating scale, with level 1 being fairly easy. Take a machete. Lesson # 2. So as you do follow the fence line east, just south of the private property, you will weave and bob, and zig and zag to stay on a faint trail. You will come to a ridge line, looking below to a valley, about 300 yards in. As you near the ridge, fan to the right (south), and you will pick up a faint trail every so often. This part required some bushwhack to pick up the faint trail.....I am being very nice even calling it a trail if you get my drift. So you are able to dump into the valley just to the south/right of the drainage pond. Here is where I took the Ranger literal and saw the fenceline back to my left/north in this rare open part of the valley and by the Rangers Instructions hugged the fenceline, which you can see on the GPS Track shows me taking a sharp left/north and then banging into the fenceline and then trekking back East, staying just south of the fenceline, then 100-200 years later, we meet yet another fenceline that drives us right/south. Now we I was pretty disturbed at this point because I know what is going through the minds of some of the hikers who may have never trailblazed before. We had our Topo map and our GPS Unit. I knew it could be a real slow go at this point. I knew we would eventually find our destination, but I also knew that morale can dissipate in such situations, so I felt a little urgency to read GPS, Topo, and lead bushwhack at the same time, which in these such situations, you usually have a topo reader, and a separate Bushwhack. Lol. Oh well, what the hey. As long as people remained patient, we will get through this. So we finally reach the end of the fenceline heading back south, which also brought us to a small wash. So we then hung a left/East and we were back to hugging a fenceline that did a zig zag, which was interesting. We were able to continue to keep moving East, at which point we came upon the major large wash, which also contained a tiny spur of the creek itself. From here do not take the wash north as you will end up on their private property by mistake. Remember there is no fenceline in the washes. Take the wash strait across and up the embankment to the ridge line. You then want to hang a left/North and finally begin the trek towards the Narrows. Try to make sure you come up on the right side or East side of the fence. This fence is a relatively new barbed wire fence. If for some reason you find yourself on the left side of the fence, then skirt to the east side of the fence right away. You should be able to pick up a trail on the East Side of this new fence. Take this trail, and it will grow faint from time to time. Keep traveling North, and keep the fenceline within site to your left. You will be able to see the Private Landowners home to your left and you will start to see the Narrows off in the distance to the North. Keep bushwhacking and following the faint trail, with the fenceline in site to the left, you will occasionally bite off the trail to your left to take look for the Narrows. Once you see the Narrows at about a 1 o'clock setting, if you were standing facing the river, you should be at a deep ravine. Not too deep that you can't hike it with some bushwhack. You will do a 1-3 switchbacks down into the ravine, and then just follow the ravine until it dumps you right down at the Narrows. You will come out about 50 yards south of Narrows. The friend of mine that does the tracking, said that it had been 2 miles from the parking area to this point, although when he uploads the data to google, I guess google is interpreting the data incorrectly.

We then trekked upstream to the Waterfall. It was a beautiful day.

When returning to the Narrows, a local fireman from the local fire department was asking us to move our vehicles stating they could cause an access problem if there was an emergency. This Fireman and the local Rangers are not seeing eye to eye right now. This guy was pretty perturbed that I had talked to the local Ranger, of whom he knew intimately, and has been butting heads with. See, the local land owners and the local fire department have been telling people that they aren't even allowed back there at all, which is not true. And the Rangers don't appreciate people dissuading others from the very right they have of being able to access Federal Land. So, we do end up finding out that it is an absolute mess what is going on right now. There are talks that are currently underway between the land owners, fire department, residents, and the Forest Rangers. The Forest Rangers have brought some influential Ranger in from the Tucson District to help with the negotiations. The Rangers think that they are going to get some sort of a small parking area that might hold 3-5 cars. The land owners are fighting it and so is the fire department, but the Rangers are pressing the issue. So, when we parked on the road, which is technically legal, is restricting access in the eyes of the fire department. So the game has begun. So, the Ranger that was called to the site, gave us all a warning just to appease the fire department and land owners for the time being. The Ranger was super cool, and explained what was going on. He even said that us parking here is legal, but because Gila County does not want to get involved with this very interesting situation, I can not tow you, and I can not give you a citation. He thanked us for being responsible hikers and hiking around the private land and we were given other probable areas in the vicinity to park that would not cause a restricted access, but warned us of vandals and suggested car pooling and no expensive cars and no valuable in the cars and maybe someone that actually watches the cars, and made me promise not to post where these others spots are. Please have people that wish to kike the no-so-easy hike call the Ranger station and ask for the advice personally. The guy was super nice to me and took our side on the matters, so I will adhere to my promise to him.

I can tell you this, just because you use this trail instead of the one from Houston Road (name?), isn't making it easy for rift raft. This trail is not for the faint of heart and recommend only experienced hikers do this trail. I would rate this Strenuous. Trail finding skills, topo map reading, bushwhacking, lose gravel traveling, scrambling, and boulder hopping.
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,402
Canyoneering4.70 Miles 135 AEG
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Hiked Tonto Narrows. Parked at the South end of Gisela and hiked up the Eastern side of the Creek/River to the Narrows. It was difficult only due to all the bushwack. Otherwise a beautiful day trip.
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Canyoneering6.50 Miles 135 AEG
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This is my first posting on Hike Arizona, even though I've been out and about quite a bit. I went with my brother (Skatchkins) and a few other friends.
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Well I played "Who Wants To Try To Make It To Tonto Creek" again this weekend this time with Joe's Gisela reacharound programmed into the GPS.
I had 7 other takers for the journey to The Narrows with the fungenda including a trailhead camp for early morning freshness.

We woke before the sun in the morning and finally got everyone roused and ready to go. We basically retraced our steps from last time and the cow trails along the ridges and the small ups and downs until we got to the descent into Houston Creek. Joe's magnificent route kept us off all the private property. The hike down was a little hairy with a game trail here and a water runoff path there to help us stay out of the catclaws too bad. We still got pretty scratched up but everyone trooped through it. The sound of water below was a great motivator.

We reached creek one and followed it by boulder hopping towards Tonto. There were plenty of frogs and a turtle in the pools along the way. When we reached another fence, we stopped and followed Joe's climb back out on the other side for a short jaunt across the flat pasture area as the sun began kicking it up a notch. A short time after (about 1.5hrs into our adventure) we were blowing up our tubes and getting ready to shove off upstream.

The first pool is quite a paddle with no hint to how deep it actually is. At best guess 40+ until whatever you dropped hit the bottom. After that, there's a nice little narrow section with plenty of jump off spots from the slick granite walls above. And of course at the head of this is a great rapids section worth shooting over and over. This is the area we actually called it quits at last time because of time constraints. This time we hung out here for quite a while before pushing on.
About 2/5 of the rest of the trip involves boulder hopping while the rest you're in the creek. Sometimes full tubing it is best, while other shallower sections work better if you use your tube as a floating hiking stick and/or gear raft.

The fish just kept getting bigger and bigger as we went. While most of the big ones were carp, we saw plenty of trout big enough for meals alone. Steve and I got ahead of the group and ended up climbing up another jump spot that upon first glance from below looked comparable in height to the last area. When we reached the top we realized how wrong we were. We sat up here for a while waiting for the cameras to catch up as we watched the large fish circle below. At some point I heard Steve (who as far as I knew from some of our last adventures, still had a fear of even the smallest of heights) say, "I can't wait anymore," and then promptly tricked his mind and just jumped. After a long time of just gravity, air, and Steve, he hit and then resurfaced. Unfortunately his belief that he could keep his glasses in his hands was wrong as the carwreck-like impact forced them from his hands and Tonto claimed some more valuables (if you're playing along at home, that makes the count: 1 watch, 1 wedding ring, and 1 pair of prescription glasses). I managed to hold off until the rest of the group got there and as Jonathan bean his climb, I tagged out and jumped. I wasn't able to do my girlie screams on this one. The gravity just forced my air out in a long rough grunt as my mind tried to figure out why I hadn't reached the water yet. I actually landed okay, apparently forgoing my usual half flying squirrel move I seem to grace the air with on all the other times. I made it to the shore just in time to catch Jon's jump with the camera and see the long airtime from below.

We decided to eat our lunch here in the water under the shade of the cliff and then pressed on to see what was further on up. Pools, led to more pools, and on until we reached a nice little beach area and the sound of a large fall. We were getting towards a turn around consensus but we had to see the noise maker for ourselves first. Around the bend we found the large split fall pouring though another narrow section. The force of it was enough you drive you under, but if you stood just right, it became a meaty German massage lady's kneading arms. After some waterfall lovins, we tried to climb up on the right side. Jon and I pulled ourselves up and then ended up jumping back off the wall after looking around a bit. We made the falls our turn around spot and began heading back.

The going was pretty quick on the way back. Tonto tried to take my GPS but Steve found it under one of the smaller rapids that had squeezed it off of my belt.
When we finally made it back to the first jump area we hung out some more, shooting the rapids and jumping until we were sure we had squeezed all the fun we could out before leaving. We swam back to where we dropped in and prepared for the hike out away from the blessed water and into the sun and stickers.

The flat spot was ridiculously warm and the shade of Houston Creek was greatly welcomed. We hopped back to the cairn that marked our downtrail and then rested a little next to our last pool before the loose climb that awaited. It was now that most of us realized that Steve had been hiking pretty blind without his glasses; the uphill would be precariously slow for him. We finally all made it up the almost straight up hill until the sunlight greeted us again. The rest of the way played out the same way the inhike did. Some ups, some downs, and cow trails to keep most of the briars off until arriving at the vehicle a couple hours later.

All in all, subtracting the GPS signal bounce in the canyon, the round trip on our feet and in the tubes was 6.5 miles. More than worth it to not see another soul or a piece of trash and spend the day in deep clear refreshing waters usually not seen in Arizona.

Some vids:

My high jump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqeaHdf8 ... re=related
A screamer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4sN-LAC ... re=related
The rapids weren't as fast as last time: https://www.youtube.com/user/bigredjeepc ... fSmH3QsP3E
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This trip wasn't planned. We failed at Tonto Creek access the day before so this was more of a counter attack just to prove we could hack it (plus it was only 8mi down the pavement once we had hit it). Unfortunately because it was improptu, I did not have Joe's exact route saved on the GPS. I had looked it over for a just in case future run a couple time before though.
The first part was easy, ridgewalking until the Willow Creek drop in. We weren't sure where to go from there, only that I wasn't going to fail my followers a second time. We followed the slope down looking for ways in and that's where I'll leave off until the part where the creek was reached. My GPS route shows how hard we tried, plus I brought a few pieces of trash out as pennance.
Wish we had gotten there earlier for time and temp sake but it took a while to get moving again from the previous day.
Visibility was great until 30+ feet deep.
We mostly played at the first narrow falls area until we knew we should head back for daylight's sake. If you find a white gold wedding band... I'm sure my brother-in-law (and sister) would be ecstatic. It most likely went missing around the falls.
Other than that we had a absolutly great time.
The girls were pretty much done climbing for the weekend, so we did what any horror movie would dictate and split up in a small township of overly private people that hate outsiders other than sprinkled in their meals: We sent the girls down the two miles of flat road as Jonathan and I braved snipers going back the way we came. We actually made great time after being rejuvenated in the creek and it only took us an hour and a half to reach the vehicle. We loaded up and met the girls at the waypoint we had directed them to near the wash exit. They were unscathed and we regrouped and headed back to town.

Couple vids:
Fun part - https://www.youtube.com/user/bigredjeepc ... 5j_wJsBG6M
Double whoops - https://www.youtube.com/user/bigredjeepc ... TdHsXHFqxA
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I wanted to get out of town to celebrate my B-day, Joe had a great suggestion. He had just visited the Narrows but he had wanted to explore a bit further. I was very excited to do this beautiful water hike! If you know me, you know that Murphy is a close personal friend of mine and his Law seems to follow me wherever I go. So... some camelbak bladders have a yellow plastic safety lock. Has anyone else had the piece get snagged on something and pull out? It has happened to me before but this time I didn't notice because I was getting into the water! :o This hike, with about 8 oz of water?... Joe offered to go back but like many of our trips together; I thought "Bring on the adventure"! It was great fun and I even decided to jump off the area where the 1st waterfall is!(twice) :D In case you were wondering- I filled up my camelbak in case of emergency, at the furthest point upstream. I didn't need to drink it, I did okay with just a few drinks of Joe's water during the steep hike out.
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Forecast was 60% chance of rain all day. After driving up through a lashing wave of downpours and VERY near lightning strikes we headed in under a light rain. Houston Creek was running about a foot deep whereas it was dry a couple weeks ago. Luckily Tonto was still low and crystal clear in spots. The weather cleared up the moment we reached the Tonto! JP Speedboat and I went a bit further up creek to hit up Pancho's three mentions. IMO the nicest area is just after the first waterfall where water cascades down a good 30? feet.

Fabulous day, JP rocks!

Having horrible results with Chacos I was told how great they perform in water. Unfortunately I was even more disappointed and left with bloody raw feet from strap burn...ugh Luckily JP lent me her wool socks and I made it out alive. These water hikes drain me seriously. I was exhausted at the end of the day with thoughts of a 17 mile roller coaster hike to Reavis in eight hours :sweat:
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Thanks Joe for the GPS route. My son finally got to get in there. We went upstream quite a ways, that is why it is 8 miles.
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