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Jul 18 2015

chumley

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Joined Sep 18 2002
Tempe, AZ

Collins Venezia Senator ExL Loop, AZ

Hiking		Jul 18 2015
		chumley • Triplogs 1,993

Hiking	16.34 Miles	3,403 AEG

Hiking	16.34 Miles	7 Hrs 28 Mns	2.81 mph
	3,403 ft AEG	1 Hour 39 Mns Break

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John9L

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Bruce hadn't hiked the 1.5 mile Venezia trail and somehow we hiked 17 miles looking for it.

It was humid, but generally pleasant, mostly cloudy, and rain free. 9L got caught up in the poison ivy, and missed the waterfalls and swimming hole at the spring.

After a few detours we decided to cut a corner off the top of the route, and it resulted in a short but steep bushwhack from the top of Collins down to the Senator Highway. It wasn't at all prickly, so it was a worthwhile shortcut.

Venezia is a great trail and especially nice in cloudy or cooler weather. E Cross L is overgrown but can be followed if attentive. The GPS track helps. Collins is a pleasure. The road hike is great on Senator. Crooks Canyon is quite scenic. The hike on FR82 is not great, but the views make up for it. We missed the turn for 281, but once found, it was a really nice climb to the top of the ridge.

Notes: the Elouise Trail #306 doesn't exist ... at least if it does it's on well-marked private property. Don't plan a trip on that one.
HAZ lists the E Cross L Trail. One sign has it as E & L. The sign near Palace Station has it as E+L. So there's that.

Fauna

Fauna [ checklist ]

[ checklist ] Teva

Culture

Culture [ checklist ]

[ checklist ] Grave - Identified Graveyard

Named place

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[ checklist ] Palace Station

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Jul 18 2015

The_Eagle

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Joined Jan 20 2009
Far NE Phoenix,

Crooks Canyon - Ash Creek Canyon Loop, AZ

Hiking		Jul 18 2015
		The_Eagle • Triplogs 2,760

Hiking	16.88 Miles	3,392 AEG

Hiking	16.88 Miles	7 Hrs 29 Mns		2.74 mph
	3,392 ft AEG	1 Hour 19 Mns Break	15 LBS Pack

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Collins Trail #282

E Cross L Trail #281

Venezia Trail #381

Senator Highway - Crown King to Prescott

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chumley

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With a 70% chance of Rain, we were all ready to get soaked on the day. Only problem, Ma Nature just decided to crank up the humidity a bit. Chums wanted to try the area Joe and I had been to before and I wanted to click off the Venezia Trail and search south of Palace Station on FR82 and Crooks Canyon.

I showed the guys Palace Station, the Palace Station Cemetery and headed down tree covered Crooks Canyon. Nice area w/ lots of camping opportunities. I still need to head further south in the future. The Elouise Mine area was posted "No Tresspassing", but it didn't appear that anyone had driven up there in quite some time.

We made a turn to the west, past the Bodie Mine area. At this point we were climbing and out of the trees, so none of us felt the urge to hike down to the area.

After 9L had us pass up the Collins Trail, we back tracked to get back on this single track.

Up the E Cross L now, it climbs steadily for 3 miles, up 1300', to an old forest road. Once at the top, we opted to cut a couple of road miles off by scrambling down a "steepish" slope to the Senator.

The Venezia trail does offer some pretty views as it climbs 400' up from the Senator to meet the E Cross L Trail. Anyone hiking the E Cross L trail, should either hike it, ending at the TH by Palace Station, or take the official GPS Track. The lower sections are overgrown and it's easy to see where Joe and I got offtrack last time here.

Temps for the most part were 75 - 80 with scattered clouds, so it made it real nice for hiking. Good company, good conversation, fun times.

Thanks for driving Mr. Chums

Wildflowers Observation Isolated

	Spence Spring	Dry	Dry
	Nothing in the spring box. Pools in Crooks creek though.

	Starlight Canyon	Dry	Dry
	Dry at the Senator Highway

	White Well	26-50% full	26-50% full
	Water in the well, as well as trash from idiots. Crooks Creek offers plenty of filtering opportunities

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Jul 18 2015

John9L

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Scottsdale, AZ

Collins Venezia Senator ExL Loop, AZ

Hiking		Jul 18 2015
		John9L • Triplogs 1,647

Hiking	16.34 Miles	3,403 AEG

Hiking	16.34 Miles	7 Hrs 28 Mns	2.81 mph
	3,403 ft AEG	1 Hour 39 Mns Break

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chumley

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I got together with Chumley and The Eagle for a hike in the Bradshaws. We drove up on Saturday morning and started hiking making a clockwise loop. The first few miles were along road and went by fairly quickly. We explored some of the features of the area and continued our hike. We eventually left the road and hiked through a wooded section. There were some cool old buildings along the way. It must have been a cool place to live back in the day. This was a nice hike and I really enjoyed the historical aspect of this area.

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The_Eagle

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Joined Jan 20 2009
Far NE Phoenix,

E Cross L #281 Loop w/ Palace Station Cem., AZ

Hiking		Aug 02 2014
		The_Eagle • Triplogs 2,760

Hiking	12.20 Miles	2,582 AEG

Hiking	12.20 Miles	5 Hrs 45 Mns		2.44 mph
	2,582 ft AEG	45 Mns Break	16 LBS Pack

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Hike one of two on the day.

Exploring new areas in the Bradshaw's, and this one was a gem!

Access from Mayer is on super smooth and recently graded FR67 for 12 miles to get to the Senator Highway intersection (FR52). Then 4 miles on the Senator Highway to get to the historic Palace Station area was high clearance.

Forecast for the day was 70's with a 90% chance of rain.

I'd done some sleuthing prior to the hike to get some ideas on what was around the area.

Plans for the day was to Check Out

2 new seldom traveled trails, under tree canopy.

Historic Palace Station

Palace Station Cemetery

Ruins of the Venezia Town & Mil area and 2 more graves.

We parked by Palace Station, just off the road, not knowing there was parking for 10+ cars at the TH.

We checked out the Palace Cemetery area first and then from the exterior, the Palace Station building, one of the oldest in the state (1877). Access is not allowed and is now a Forest Service building and is manned.

The worst trail finding all day long, was close to the South Eastern TH. This goes through a burn zone from a fire in 2007 or 2008. After this, it was clear sailing with no trail finding issues. The trail is undercover for most of the way. There are remnants of bygone mining days along the way. We passed an old cast iron stove and other household items. A car or mining implement frame with a straight six engine was nearby.

We headed down the Collins #282 for a bit to check out the first of two structures I'd seen on Satellite. It appeared to be an old storage building. There were other building footings in the area.

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Next we mad the turn and headed toward the northern TH. We stopped and checked out the other building which appeared to be Mobile home like in size and shape, with no indications that it'd been one.

It seems like almost all the hikes I've been on recently was loaded with sign of bear. This hike had the occasional deer prints and the squirrels were quite active, but that was about it. So I was shocked when Joe yells (no too loud) BEAR!. Up on the hillside, and climbing swiftly, was a Momma and her cub, probably 75 yards away. I was only able to get off 1 discernible photo. But finally, my first bear sighting while hiking!

We continued up the incline to the Northern TH. Beautiful forest everywhere.

We hopped on FS70

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FR52B

FR52. Next stop the Venenzia townsite ruins.

We got rained on just a bit on the walk and then while at the Site, the sky opened up and lightning crackled around us. Didn't look too long for the other two graves in the area and also cancelled the other trail we were going to go on. It would have taken us up higher (closer to the Lightning). Should have gone because 10 minutes later we walked out of the storm and the road was even dry. Oh well, another reason to go back.

I really enjoyed this trail... and the Bear encounter made it even more memorable!

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[ checklist ] Black Bear

	White Well	1-25% full	1-25% full
	Water could be seen at the bottom. Not sure how deep.

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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
Dave Barry

WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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