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General Crook Trail #64 - Prescott NF - 3 members in 6 triplogs have rated this an average 2.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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General Crook Trail #64 - Prescott NFPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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kingsnakeTriplogs 894
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Today, I hiked the second east-bound segment of the General Crook Trail, on General Crook Trail #64, from CF Canyon to Copper Canyon Trailhead, just outside Camp Verde. (Roughly P12 to P2.) I could have continued on to the historical Fort Verde cavalry post (P0), but I do enouugh suburban road walking in my neighborhood.

My hiking buddy Paul, aka Prescottstyle, and I started hiking at 7:25 a.m. Scattered showers were expected mid-afternoon in the Verde Valley, but morning was sunny. But we were so early, and heading slowly uphill to the east, that taking photographs of trail conditions was difficult. Despite the glare, the slight depression that is the 150-year old General Crook Trail was obvious. ☀️

At one point, General Crook Trail was more obvious than where we should have turned onto a jeep trail, and we did not realize it until we deadended at a gateless fence. That cost us an extra ⅔ mile — which explains why my total mileage, below, is more than the attached GPS route. (I do a lot of wandering & backtracking for photos & route confirmation.) Turn left after 1 mile, before the double boulders.

At 1¼ mile, wait for a gap in traffic, then sprint across AZ-260. (There is no tunnel.) On the north side of the highway, there is a wired-shut gate. Without the tools or time to open it, Paul and I low crawled it. (The bottom strand is barbless.) Because the hiking General Crook Trail has diverted from the historical General Crook Trail, we curved northeast ¼ mile to FR 9603F.

FR 9603F heads east, past a full-looking Mistake Tank. (On satellite view, it is a mudhole.) When FR 9603F bends north (left) to parallel Interstate 17, there is a General Crook Trail #64 sign. Split right past the sign, through creek bottom shrubbery, to a double culvert under the freeway. I was surprised at the lack of graffiti. 🎨

On the east side of I-17, Paul and I resumed following the now faint General Crook Trail which heads east a ½ mile to Bates Windmill. The windmill is non-functional and the corral fenceless. After 3 miles, at Bates Windmill, turn left onto FR 136, which winds through pinyon & juniper as it climbs north. Paul & I briefly stopped to chat with some deer hunters in an OHV.

At the 4 mile mark, by the powerline, FR 136 intersects FR 9603J. Bend left aiming at a saddle just ahead. From the saddle, it is all downhill through Copper Canyon, to the trailhead 5⅓ miles away. Just over the saddle, the trail splits: FR 136 left, General Crook Trail right. Paul and I went right. Stay left to avoid a 30 ft. drop off and numerous catclaw. General Crook Trail rejoins FR 136 in ⅓ mile anyway.

Following the powerline, FR 136 drops 500 rocky feet in only ⅔ mile. Though FR 136 continues to descend all the way to the Copper Canyon Trailhead, General Crook Trail basically levels out, becomming a pleasant three mile stroll through moist & verdant Copper Canyon. The foliage was so tangled, you would not want to be canyon crawling it like I do on the Mogollon Rim. 👋

Along the lush part of Copper Canyon, FR 136 is never more than 250 yds. from Interstate 17. Trucks air braking can be heard, and occasionally seen, 200 ft. above, but the foliage deadens most of the sound. The creek was running, and FR 136 crosses it several times. There were also quite a few wide puddles.

At 7¼ miles, I found a prospect on the south side of General Crook Trail. Paul spotted the mine adit. It was not hard, or dangerous, making entrance. Inside, I was able to stand up. But it only went in 30 ft. and there were only small traces of copper. Certainly nothing like the other Copper Creek! [ photoset ]

A ¼ mile past the mine is Copper Corral, which is in slightly better shape than Bates Windmill. A ¼ mile past Copper Corral, I saw an open area to my right (FR 513). As I turned to look, two large male javelina snorted as they ran for cover. Past FR 513, Copper Canyon opens up, with the vegetation returning to typical Sonoran Desert scrub.

The final two miles down FR 136 to Copper Canyon Trailhead were a rocky trudge. At least the clouds were beautiful! 🤗

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The best flowers were on the steepest part of FR 136: A dense 200 yd. long patch of yellow longleaf false goldeneye. But variety increased in deepest Copper Canyon. I spoted common sunflower, tansyleaf spine aster, broom snakeweed, field bindweed, oak apple gall wasp, desert marigold, fall tansyaster, southwestern prisklypoppy, trailing four o’clock, globemallow (rusbyi or hastulata?) and velvety goldenrod,

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Looked good from 200 yds. away. Way more water than mudhole on sat view.
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General Crook Trail #64 - Prescott NFPrescott, AZ
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I have ongoing projects day hiking / biking the Chesapeake & Ohio Canal, Black Canyon Trail and Maricopa Trail. Of course, that is not keeping me busy enough, so I figured I would add the General Crook Trail to my plate. 😆

I started hiking out the back of the Old Cherry Rd. pullout, in a small wash. Really, more of a break in the very dense brush. In ⅓ mile, the trail crosses the road. But the trail on the other side is blocked by a barbed wire fence. Seeing no gate, I walked down the road 100 yds. to a cattle guard, turned right along the fenceline for 100 yds., then picked up the trail again. 🙄

In ¼ mile, the trail dumps back onto the road, which I followed through a cluster of small ranches. Just on the east side of the ranches, after just over a mile, was the signed start of General Crook Trail #64. My recommendation is start here.

The next ⅔ mile down to the old stage stop on Ash Creek was the highlight of the day. The creek had 1-2″ of trickling water, there was a large stone corral, a foundation with a scattering of period nails, and some truly massive trees. Hiking to the stage stop would be a fun short hike for oldsters and families with small children.

General Crook Trail turns east, ascends a small hill, then bends south. It starts out as foot trail, gradually transitioning into old jeep trail by the time it reaches the old wood & wire corral at AZ-169 after 3⅓ total miles.

While taking photos, I noticed some fire ants milling around, but I figured three feet distance was enough. It wasn’t. One stung me on my neck. I could feel numbness for the next hour. 🐜

After a short walk on FR 9604K, the trail splits left. Vegetation gradually decreases as the trail heads east from FR 9604K. Shade is basically non-existent. There is erosion in the trail surface, but it is otherwise mostly obstacle free. However, it does disappear in some areas that have cheatgrass or even riparian vegetation. Other than a yellowjacket-infested puddle in Racetrack Wash, I never saw water after Ash Creek.

A little over halfway into my hike, at five miles, the trail crosses a quality dirt road at Hackberry Wash. There is a foundation and a spring box painted “John 3:16-17”. This would make a good turn around point from either direction, but my always helpful wife was shuttle driving, so I continued.

At six miles, the trail apparently has a junction with Black Canyon Trail. It has a fiberglass post marked to that effect, but my information is that the BCT runs from Orme Rd. to FR 9604F. Puzzling. 🤔

After crossing Sour Water Wash, the trail turns into jeep trail for ¼ to the Gray Wolf Regional Landfill fence. On a small hill to the left is a solar array. The landfill is off limits, so I turned right, finding a “T64” marker a few yards later. I followed that catclaw-riddled foot trail down to Racetrack Wash.

From the 1915 spring box, I followed the landfill fence east for an easy, but trailless, ⅔ mile. I turned north when the fence did, continuing along the fenceline. After ⅓ mile across a small playa, I turned east, resuming General Crook Trail. There were cairns, and trail tape, and they didn’t always agree. It was a trudge to the FR 9604F trailhead.

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My wife said she didn't see anything, but I found lots! Rusby’s globemallow, silverleaf nightshade, plenty of dense blackfoot daisy clusters, common sunflower, Stansbury’s cliffrose, Trans-Pecos morning glory, some kind of buckwheat, fair number of southwestern mock vervain, sacred datura, dense goldenrod clusters, plus several others.
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Oct 20 2013
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General Crook Trail #64 - Prescott NFPrescott, AZ
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I continued on my General Crook journey. I started by I-17 and headed down the Copper Canyon. After a while I made into the town of Camp Verde. This was my first in the town. It had a nice lade back feeling. One house had two big horn sheep in it's yard.
I made it to the General Crook '0' plague. The park manager came by and chatted for a while about the General Crook trail and how she wanted to hike it.

Soon I took off to do the boring section of hiking SR260. I went past my turn-around time just to finish off this section. It was nice making it to clear creek. I explored a little before heading back.
On the way back, I went to the "White Bridge" area to have lunch. The lunch spot was a shaded view of the Verde. Life was good!

The temps were perfect expect for the hike back down SR260. Maybe I was just tired of the road. I only saw about 4 ATVs on the was down Copper Canyon and none on the way out.

I've got about 15 miles to go for finishing the General Crook trail
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I did the Western end of the General Crook trail.
I parked on south Cherry Creek road where the trail crosses over the road. I headed north/west on the General Crook (GC). The trail was well marked cairns. All of the creeks were dry.
The trail fell apart when I got near the city landfill. It looks like the GC originally went through the landfill. Now it detours around it. If I didn't have coanbru’s GPS route, I would have never figured this out. I have to give Bruce kudos for figuring this one out. There were numerous turns without any cairns or signs. There were large sections were the trail was lost in knee-high grass. Hiding the grass was rocks and ankle grabbing holes. To say the least this was not fun. If you do this trail I highly recommend using Bruce’s GPS track, it will keep you on the straight and narrow.
Once you cross under I-17 the trail gets better. Soon you’re on roads and the views get much better. The trail starts to descend into Camp Verde and you start to follow creeks with big trees in it. This was the highlight of the hike. I hated to turn around, but it was time.
I’ll return to finish the Copper Canyon section of trail, but I won’t go West of I-17 on the GC trail again.
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The original General Crook Trail started in Prescott at Fort Whipple (Currently the site of the VA Hospital). It provided a route to Fort Verde and then up the Rim and ultimately to Fort Apache.

I've been looking at, reading up about, and drawing routes for the General Crook trail for over a year.

This hike starts at the Westernmost part as indicated on the Topo Maps at P21. P21 indicates mileage to Campe Verde from the Prescott Side. Subsequent hikes, leaving Camp Verde will indicate the distance from Camp Verde as V2, V3, all the way to V113.

3D Denny also enjoys the History associated with these trails, so he's my partner on this and hopefully future hikes on the GC Trail. We had the shuttle set up in Campe Verde and were back to the TH to get this party started by 7:15. I'd seen pictures of a large General Crook TH sign at the place we were starting, but it no longer exists. Existing is a spot for maybe 2 cars.

The area west of I-17, is mainly rolling hills, scrub brush to begin mixed in with some grassy areas. It's not an Oooh and Aaah area, but very pleasant. We passed over numerous small creeks that were flowing, and found our way to the old stone corral area.

Two large Stone corrals were present. Little is known on this site, but it is believed to be a place where travelers on the General Crook Trail back in the late 1800's, stopped, bartered, and watered their horses. There is supposed to be a foundation of a building in the area. We never saw it.

The trail crosses south over 169. During this time you are on paths, old jeep roads. The Boy Scouts in 1975-76 Cairned the route pretty well and at one time had 4x4 wooden posts as mileage markers. The 4x4s are mainly gone now, but can be seen in spots. Those cairnes go all the way over to the Copper Canyon area on the other side of I-17.

The trail has changed some since the Boy Scouts went through. We had to route south around the Grey Wolf Plant area. We found Cairnes for part of the re-route, then lost them.

We had lunch up by the Bates Windmill and rested our bones a bit.

This next section I was interested in doing. This is the Copper Canyon area. When you are heading north on I-17, and you are making the drop into Camp Verde, this is the area just to the east and straight down below. We saw some bikers, Quads and lots-o-cows. A real pretty area.

The rest was just a walk to Fort Verde State Park to retrieve the Shuttle Vehicle.

Thanks for joining me 3D Denny. 6 or 7 more trips and we should have it done.
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:y: Starting another trail across part of Arizona with Bruce(The Trail General)Coan.I give him a big :thanx: for all the research and planning to do this one.Learning some of the History of this trail and the area around it make it a lot more fun and interesting.We saw old stone corral's beside a Huge-Huge tree,a couple of cool creeks,8 deer and a owl,the sunk it trail from the wagon trains,a couple old mines, and the Historic Fort Verde.Along with great company and weather,I'd say a very enjoyable day! :y:
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