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Skyline Trail - Palm Springs - 1 member in 7 triplogs has rated this an average 5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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May 28 2024
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 Chandler, AZ
Cactus to CloudsBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
Big Bear - Jacinto, CA
Hiking avatar May 28 2024
John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking21.78 Miles 10,804 AEG
Hiking21.78 Miles   11 Hrs   22 Mns   2.24 mph
10,804 ft AEG   1 Hour   39 Mns Break
 
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I've wanted to hike C2C for 5+ years and was getting to the point where I was going to just hike it on my own soon, but my brother was interested and our schedules lined up for late May. I drove to Palm Springs on Monday and picked him at the airport after his late flight was delayed even later, so he landed a little before midnight, and we started the hike behind the museum a little after 3AM on Tuesday morning.

One benefit of starting in the dark was not seeing how much "up" was above us--it forced us to focus on the next few steps that we could see in our flashlight beams. I worked up a good sweat over the first few miles as it climbed steeply and consistently, and it was nice to get better and better views of the lights of Palm Springs, and eventually the sun rising over the mountains.

Around sunrise, ~4 miles over ~4,000' in, the terrain transitions into more yucca and taller foliage. We passed three people on their way up and then got into more manzanita as the steepness increased. The last few miles leading up to Grubbs Notch were the steepest and toughest of the day, and my brother felt like his legs were on the verge of cramping. I had serious doubts that he was going to be able to finish the hike if he started cramping, and it wasn't looking good with 12+ miles and ~3,000' of elevation ahead of us.

But he pushed through, and we took a break once we reached the Notch, where the terrain changed again. We stopped at the Long Valley Ranger station, which was closed at that time, and filled our bottles from the hose in back (there was a sign warning about haloacetic acid levels in the water, so we filtered the water as we refilled). We had five or six more miles to the peak, and it was a relaxing hike through pines with water flowing in the creek (in hindsight, we could've filtered that more easily than the hose water), and the grade was much less steep.

We encountered the first snow along the trail at ~8,500' and more as we climbed, but it was generally well-packed and easy to cross without sinking in. We took another short break at Wellman Divide and passed another person in that area. The terrain changed again, with more boulders and low brush along both sides of the trail and fewer pine trees over the last two miles to San Jacinto peak.

We encountered deeper snow on the final scramble to the top, and we arrived a little before 11:30AM had it to ourselves. The views were fantastic in every direction...I wished that I'd brought a big DSLR camera to zoom in on all the landmarks. Baldy and San Gorgonio both had a lot of snow on top, and there was a thick blanket of low clouds over the Pacific. We spent ~40 minutes on top eating, relaxing, and taking pictures before we packed up and started down.

We talked briefly with the guy we'd passed near Wellman Divide as he was coming up, then started to see more people from the tram farther down. One couple on their way up asked if we'd come up on the first tram, and when we told them we hiked up from Palm Springs, the woman had the line of the day: "Motherf*****...congratulations!" :)

We cruised down at a good pace and saw more and more people as we got closer to the tram...it felt like a different place with crowds and left me feeling grateful that we'd seen so few people on the way up and had the peak to ourselves. We dropped off our permit at the ranger station and headed into the swarms of tourists at the tram station and rode down...I could've done without the music and singalongs, but it was cool to see the mountain from that angle.

Overall, it was a great day and things worked out as well as we could've hoped. The weather was perfect from start to finish and I was comfortable in a T-shirt all the way, including at the peak. And I felt great physically--food and water made a big difference...I have a bad habit of not stopping often enough to eat and drink on hikes, so I made an effort this time to eat/drink before I got hungry/thirsty. I carried ~180oz of liquids (and a purifier) and ended up drinking a little less than that, and my brother drank close to 240oz. I finished the day with more energy and felt better than I typically do on much less demanding hikes.

C2C lived up to the expectations--it was a fun challenge, and it was beautiful seeing the sunrise over Palm Springs, and I enjoyed hiking up through so many different environments between ~500' and 10,800'. It was great to having my brother join me for this. In addition to his near-cramping, he was battling pain in a tendon in his foot and had to stop fairly often to take his boot off and stretch it, but he fought through it and did great : rambo : . Hopefully I can hike this one again sometime, and next time I'll pack a little lighter and bring a better camera :).
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May 14 2022
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 Gilbert, AZ
Cactus to CloudsBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
Big Bear - Jacinto, CA
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ddgrunningTriplogs 604
Hiking22.12 Miles 10,667 AEG
Hiking22.12 Miles   14 Hrs   23 Mns   1.98 mph
10,667 ft AEG   3 Hrs   12 Mns Break
 
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Our adventure began on Friday afternoon, as we left the East Valley around 2 pm and made the 4-5 hour drive to Palm Springs to a VRBO home we had rented for Friday and Saturday nights.

I wasn't generally worried about my overall fitness, BUT, unavoidable work commitments had me working 15-20 hour days, with very little sleep the entire week leading up to the trip. So, I was pretty sleep-depleted going into the weekend. After finishing work on Thursday, I was hoping for a good night's sleep, but somewhat surprisingly, I didn't actually sleep all that well.

Back to the drive, it ended up taking a little longer because we had to fight rush-hour traffic to get out of Phoenix.

We arrived in Palm Springs around 7-ish. We didn't actually stay in Palm Springs, but rather "across the freeway" in Desert Hot Springs, where the rental prices were a little better.

We stopped for dinner and then picked up some last-minute supplies from the grocery store and admired the substantial homeless population in the area :-/

We had originally planned to be on the trail at 4 a.m., but with the temperature in Palm Springs scheduled to spike to 106 degrees on Saturday, we decided to move our start time to 3 am instead. That meant getting up at 1:45 a.m. to get our packs ready, etc. so we could leave by 2:30 am, as it was a 20-30 minute drive from our rental to the trailhead.

We arrived at the TH just before 3 am and were a little surprised to see so many cars filling the roadside parking area. Luckily, we were able to squeeze into a spot just outside the no parking zone.

There was a solid moon in the sky and but for the fact that it was setting behind the western side of the mountain, it likely would have dispensed with the need for headlamps.

We got on the trail right about our planned 3 am start time, and with headlamps on, we started the climb. And climb we did--right out of the shoot, the first mile gained close to 900 feet. We were keeping a pretty good pace, and despite it being 3 am, it was already warm. While I'm not a fan of white dots on the rocks, they did help us avoid taking the plentiful spider paths over the first section of the trail in the dark.

At the mile mark, my brother almost decided to turn back, saying that he was not prepared to keep that kind of a pace going. I was just feeling the adrenaline rush and told him we could dial back the pace. With a little encouragement, he decided to soldier on, and we did slow down our pace.

We made good progress and were about 4,000 feet up before the sun broke the horizon around 5:45 a.m. Prior to that, we enjoyed the views of the city lights below, as well as watching the dawn come on and the sun finally announce the arrival of the day.

Shortly after that though, my brother began having trouble with his nutrition and was struggling to keep any food or liquids down. At about the 4,500 mark, he began throwing up. We were little concerned but just took it even more slowly with more breaks, including a stint where we took a 20 minute break in the shade and he just rested.

Passing the two emergency rescue boxes, we found both full of water and related nutrition to help under-prepared hikers.

At about the 6,000 mark, we came across a hiker doing even worse than my brother. The guy was laying face down in the middle of the trail in the shade of a manzanita bush, with his shoes and socks off, dealing with severe dehydration/heat exhaustion. His hiking group of 4-5 people were there with him and had already called for an emergency rescue. We offered to help, but they indicated they had what they needed to care for him as best they could until the rescue team arrived. So, we carried on, and my brother could at least console himself that he wasn't anywhere near that stage!

As we continued up to the 7,000 foot level, we saw the helicopter hovering down below and eventually extracting the hiker (we learned later from one of the people in his group that he was taken to a hospital and, hopefully, will be okay).

Meanwhile, we had reached the most difficult part of the climb up to Grub's Notch, consisting of a narrow chute next to the prominent rock outcropping named Coffman's Crag, and which climbs Flatiron-like up 1100+ feet in a mile before reaching Long Valley--the first "flat" section of the hike and the location of the upper landing for the Palm Spring Tramway. Taking several breaks and relying on willpower, my brother made it up to Long Valley--despite not being able to keep any fuel down.

At the top of Grub's Notch, there is a group of rocks named "Hallelujah Rocks," as they mark the end of the intense 8,000 feet of climbing from the TH. We joined in the hallelujah chorus as we enjoyed the new sensation of walking on nearly level ground for the first time since setting foot on the trail.

It was a short .4 of a mile to the base of the tram station, where we left my brother to recover and either wait for us to summit/return, or take the tram down and coordinate a pick up by my wife and another friend who were on shuttle duty.

From there, the remaining three of us stopped at the ranger station to fill up on water, get a permit, and fuel up for part two of the hike--an 11 mile round trip to the top of San Jacinto Peak at 10,834 feet.

From the tram station/ranger station at 8,300, we still had another 2,500 feet of elevation to gain. Thankfully, the trail from this point was not quite as steep, with the elevation gain a little more spread out. Plus, by that time, we were up in the shade of the pine trees and the temperatures were much nicer.

There was still snow on the climb, but the trail was mostly clear (just a few patches to hike over--no need for microspikes). The climbing went fine until about a mile before the summit when I, unexpectedly, bonked. I hit the wall and struggled to have the energy to keep going. But there was no way I was NOT going to make the summit, and with a little mental engagement and a few more breaks, we eventually got there. Being that close, I didn't really consider NOT summiting, but it was more taxing than I imagined. This may have been my weeklong sleep deprivation kicking in, but I also think I may have not paid close enough attention to my hydration strategy after leaving the ranger station. I also think the extra hours on the trail due to my brother's struggles may have also played a part.

Over the last mile, we visited with several hikers descending from the summit, including a guy form Sweden (living in San Diego) who was pushing for a fast time, but came up short of expectations--though still a solid time, and a guy from England who was hiking solo at that point but with his wife and a few friends another half mile or so back. He was so full of energy and excitement that he apparently really ticked his pregnant wife off and he decided he needed to "create a little space" on the return hike. We promised to put in a good word for him when we passed her later on. We tried, but I don't think it worked--she still seemed rather mad at him :lol:

In any event, we finally did make it to the summit--YAY--at about 3 pm, 12 hours after starting our hike. The summit was relatively crowded (mostly with folks who were making the climb from the tram station or from the Round Valley campground--including a group of 30 girl scouts).

We took summit photos and tried to enjoy the moment, but I still was not feeling good at all, so I rested and tried to get a few more calories and liquid in for the descent.

Although I wasn't feeling well, going downhill proved much more doable, and I managed to keep a good 20-minute mile pace on the way back to the tram station.

At the tram station, there is a long set of paved switchback ramps that were agonizing to go up after all of that climbing. Then, after you enter the tram station building, you have climb another set of stairs to purchase your tickets!

It felt good to be done, but I was ready to get back to a hot shower and start recovering with some Sprite and Pringles--my go to options for settling my stomach after an exhausting hike.

The tram ride down was cool. The sheer steepness of that ravine is impressive. Also, they blared "Celebration" by Kool and the Gang from the speakers, which was an appropriate conclusion to this epic adventure.
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 Joined Nov 16 2010
 Kingman, AZ
Skyline Trail - Palm SpringsBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
Big Bear - Jacinto, CA
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nikorock28Triplogs 1,081
Hiking8.80 Miles 4,000 AEG
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I got started at about 2PM. Downtown Palm Springs was popping with folks; fortunately, very few on the trail. I failed to read the hike description again and went askew at the big rock pile, continuing to the left and down. Hey, the trail warning sign is right next to it, so that would only make sense, right? Knew something was off when I saw downhill switchbacks ahead of me. Turned around, went back and found the correct uphill trail.

I think my plan was to go up for a couple hours, then turn around, but kind of playing it by ear. I struggled a little the day prior on Turtlehead Peak in Red Rock, but I will blame that on driving through Vegas (sucks the life out of me!). My energy was better this day and I was able to make it to around 4200' or so in 2:10, when the trail levels off and starts to curve right, at the base of a pair of hills directly ahead, with nice views of the looming mountain ahead of you. I really wanted to keep going, as I was powering the ups, but alas, I only carried 2.5L and this just wasn't the day for it. Twisted my ankle and took a tumble not long after turning around, so proceeded down with a little extra caution. That was all well enough as I was really enjoying the hiking, the trail and the warmth. Just to be hiking in shorts and short sleeves was amazing! Finished up by eating my sandwich at the picnic table and enjoying the last mile in the shade (though sun would have been nice, as well). I'll be back again, but probably never to do the full ascent :)
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 Kingman, AZ
Skyline Trail - Palm SpringsBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
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nikorock28Triplogs 1,081
Hiking13.40 Miles 5,750 AEG
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This was my first time in Palm Springs. I got started at 7:20AM local time and began ascending. I had worn a winter long sleeved shirt and another short sleeve over that, since it was in the 50s and I was cold. Well, that didn't last very long. It was amazing how fast the rising sun quickly warmed things up. Made it to the picnic benches where I cached a water bottle, then Rescue 1, where I did the same thing.

Trail traffic was very mild today. There were two people near the very beginning and a woman coming down about a mile or so up. I was following another guy who started before me and we flip flopped a couple times. I last saw him at about 4,000 feet where I took a brief rest to drink. I think he might have been heading for the tram. There was one trail runner and four other hikers on the descent. Then a handful of people close to the trailhead.

It felt like the trail was shaded for a good mile or so around mile 2-3. To me, the trail was getting a little squirley above 4,000 feet, with it leveling off and going down in places. I simply hate it when an uphill trail goes down as it makes things confusing and counterintuitive. It seemed like I went up, down, up a little crest, then back down when I came to the Palm Springs 5 mi stone with a left arrow? Left? Huh? I had come down to it! Okay, I guess this is going to be my turnaround point because I don't know what is going on. I looked around a little, still confused. Luckily, this hike was the first time I ever used route scout. I had only looked at it briefly once to confirm if it was working or not. Now, when I really needed it, I was able to see that the official route went around to the left, while I had continued to go up and then down the crest. Great, I am where I should be, so I went and sat down in the shade, ate and hydrated.

I headed back to the trailhead, with route scout helping me on a couple occasions when I had gone a bit astray. My phone battery died with 3 miles remaining. I came across some folks coming up just past the picnic benches and they asked if I had left a blue water bottle at the bench, which I thought was a bit odd. I had stashed it in the bush behind the bench, but someone had moved it on top of the table in the sunlight. Strange, but at least they didnt drink any of it.

I thought I had a chance of making it to 6,000-6,500 feet today, but it wasn't in the cards. It was warmer than I thought it would be and I would have needed more water to make it to that elevation, so it was good I turned around when I did.

I was pleased with my effort. Much props to those hazers who have done the whole thing!
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Skyline Trail - Palm SpringsBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
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Hiking19.20 Miles 8,560 AEG
Hiking19.20 Miles   11 Hrs   55 Mns   1.89 mph
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My hardest hike in a very long time, and because you have to carry all of your water going up, my heaviest pack, too. Hot, sunny, long, beautiful, expansive, tiring, and finally annoying, but I did it up and down, finishing after dark and with no tram cheating. This is only the town to tram hike, not to the Peak, but I couldn't do that. Besides, I would prefer to enjoy some time up there if I come back to hike to the summit.

I carried a lot of food and 6 liters of water. Needed it all going up, but only 3 down. Also, I had a 12 oz NY Strip Steak on top, which was awesome to do. I'm in pretty good shape, but won't run out and do this anytime soon, again. 6 hours up, including numerous breaks, over an hour on top, and then 4 1/2 hours down. Not bad, I think.
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Cactus to CloudsBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
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 Reno, NV
Cactus to CloudsBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
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sbkelleyTriplogs 184
Hiking19.74 Miles 10,800 AEG
Hiking19.74 Miles   9 Hrs   30 Mns   2.35 mph
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A good day, but a tad bittersweet. Telescope Peak continues to prove elusive, but the power of water is something to behold in an area like Death Valley. After it became clear that hiking 18 miles to Shortys Well wasn't a great idea, we convened a meeting of the minds on the front porch of the Furnace Creek Inn. Part of what happened next was certainly my fault - upon kicking around ideas, I asked "how far away is Palm Springs?" Oops. Though my vote was officially for Mt Charleston (closer, and had done C2C a few times before), the coin said otherwise and off we went on what twisted and turned into a great adventure.

Some things I learned: that last 2,000' to the tram always is a party that leaves your legs feeling as special as always. I love the first few thousand feet of this trail and the sunrises that hit around 5,000': always will. Five Hour Energy gives you the antithesis of wings, despite what others will tell you, and the summit is great when there's no wind. Great group and good laughs along the way. Did I say I was retired from C2C? Huh.
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