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Government Trail #119 - 6 members in 15 triplogs have rated this an average 3.2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 08 2023
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I set off on a tour de notoneteens at higher elevations with a return trip up the Esk. The main trail is in fine shape. The lower aspens are progressing nicely twelve years on, but it's still slow growth up top. Made my way over to the true high point, entertaining myself in the jigsaw puzzle of downed aspen trees by playing an outdoor version of "the floor is lava". It's amazing how rarely you have to touch the ground, and I found it to be easier to stay on top of the deadfall, rather than trying to climb over and under it. Quite a bit of elk scat up here, and also some very fresh mountain lion poop. No sightings of either one though.

On the way down, I decided to attempt to make a loop with the Government Trail. I had very low expectations for this trail, and my expectations were met! :sweat:

The tread can be followed for the most part, with just a couple of short stretches where post-fire flooding has eroded the obvious route. But it's a near-constant mess of dead trees and new growth. I didn't count, but I am certain that the number of trees I climbed over was in the triple digits. There has been no attempt to work on this trail since the fire, and I'm not sure they'll ever put the effort in to clear it again, though I can hope. It really wouldn't take much more than a dedicated effort from a team with saws.

The bottom section follows an old two track and was less obstructed. A herd of over 30 elk were not thrilled with seeing a human on this route today. I'm guessing it doesn't happen too often.

I took a break when I got to the road perhaps hoping to go full cletus on the 2 mile road walk back up to the trailhead. No such luck today however as not a single vehicle passed by and I hoofed it the whole way. If planning this loop (why you would?, I'm not sure!) and no shuttle involved, it probably makes sense to do the road walk at the beginning.

But unless the FS gets out there to clean the Gubbmit Trail, I really wouldn't recommend it to anybody who doesn't find some enjoyment from the kind of work and pain it currently provides. :)
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This trail is still in bad shape. We didn't have the GPS tracks and lost the trail near the base of the mountain. We ascended along Milk Creek and came across the switchbacks of the trail on and off. Its thick with downed trees and young aspen. There is a well worn game trail that goes straight up the mountain and is probably the best route to follow. We hiked up to the lookout and then back down the Escudilla trail and then the road back to the car. Still lots of downed trees on Escudilla as well. I'd skip this one unless you are in the mood for a slog.
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I had some friends meeting me on this one. I went up Government and they would go up Escudilla. Government trail is in rough shape. I needed the gps for sure. The sign for the turn off the road is on a tree a ways off the road. Easy to miss. As you go up it gets harder and harder to follow. You have lots of down trees to navigate and the young Aspen are thick in places so you have to push through. Then there are washouts too. Close to the top you have lots of extra trails and it can be confusing. Once you hit the field of grass up top your fine. Although the sign is just a stick left with no writing. :( Dead Aspen every where!
I took Escudilla up to the Fire Tower which is still standing but fenced off. Great views of dead trees and stuff. About a 1/4 mile before the tower I saw 3 buck. They were big! From the tower I went over to the summit and signed in. A tree had fallen on the big rock carin :scared: . I was headed back and a ways below the tower and my friends showed up. I hiked with them back to the tower then back to their car to catch a ride to mine. From there it was off to Eager to get a burger at Trail Riders Restaurant. It's in my Boots and Burgers book for another hike so I worked it in :D .
Great hike, company, and burger. :y:
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Tried out the HAZ Tracks on my Android phone on this one. What fun!

I've wanted to do Escudilla since before the fire, and while I'm sorry that I missed it's old glory, the landscape today is still beautiful and full of life! I thought the trail was such a delight - but maybe a little easy for me today. So, when I saw how well the HAZ Tracks was doing, I thought I'd put it to the test on the Government Trail. I had downloaded the track before my hike, figuring that I might get ambitious. There weren't any trip reports since the fire, so I really didn't know what to expect.

From the junction with the Escudilla trail (which has a post, but no sign), it's easy enough find the track if you head toward the tree line and know what to look for. Even with the tall grass of late summer, I was able to find the track without checking the GPS. As it heads down the switchbacks, there is a discernible trail - however it takes some real route finding skill to stay on it and not get lured into diving straight down the hill on the many mini-landslides that resemble trail. There were some downed trees to navigate, but not nearly as many as I'd expected.

At the bottom of the switchbacks, there's a tiny, half-fallen down cairn that would be pretty tough to find under the weeds if you were headed up-hill. It would be particularly difficult given the fact that between that cairn and the next (at the top of the old road bed), there is nothing that even remotely reminds one of a trail. There are elk tracks to follow, and when all else fails one can simply try to follow the right bank of the Hulsey Creek. This .5 mile portion of the hike took me longer than the whole mile and a half before, as I ducked under fallen trees, dodged thorny shrubs and crashed through the aspens. Here, it was very nice to have the HAZ Track active - it helped me get to the right spot in the meadow where the old road bed starts at a large cairn.

From the large cairn, it's a cake walk. The forest here wasn't as badly burned as the steep slopes above. The old roadbed is wide and grassy - a superhighway compared to the brush-whacking stuff above. There were a couple of spots where trees down across the trail showed none of the usual signs of people bypassing them - so I suspect that there really isn't much travel even on this portion of the trail.

I knew there would be a road walk when I got to FS56 - what I didn't anticipate was how long and hot it would be. Even at this elevation, the sun is toasty, and all of the shade along the road has been removed by the post-fire tree clearing process. It's a pretty big climb, too, back to the Escudilla Trailhead. I was passed by 5-6 cars, and I tried to flag them down hoping for a lift back, but none even rolled down their windows. No trail angels today. I'd texted Gary (who was picking me up), and luckily he got the message before I had to complete the whole miserable walk.

I was accompanied by my favorite hiking dog, who ripped her feet up good on a critter chase in the roughest part of the country. I felt terrible for her on the road walk, she had to be in real pain with those messed up pads. Maybe she was the reason I wasn't offered a ride earlier - but she was also the reason I really wanted one.

Should also mention that I saw the largest bull elk I've ever seen - of course, he was too savvy for me to shoot him with my camera. But between him and the 3 others that I spotted, I know this is a real hot spot for those boys!

Fun trip - I love route finding, and the new toy was fun to play with, too!
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Did the loop hike with Escudilla. Beautiful colors, still quite a few aspens that have yet to turn.
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Preston, Nick and I did this as a shuttle hike with Escudilla. Autumn foliage is in it's prime! Perhaps "Extreme", I rated "Substantial" as there's no mix of maples or oaks. We probably took ten times the photos necessary but it was fun. I prefer the mature Aspens on the Government Trail. It was good to finally see this part of Arizona I'd yet to witness. Great company as always!
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Met Nick and Joe in Globe, then we drove through Show Low to the Escudilla and Government trailheads to set up a shuttle. The weather was perfect, and aspens were blazing gold. On top of Escudilla, we climbed the fire tower for a better view, had a snack, then headed down the Escudilla Trail. The Escudilla Trail with its continuous aspens was at maximum color, and photo stops were frequent. Afterwards we checked out a couple of side roads, settling on a mesa top site above Eager to camp out for the night. With a hot fire and quesadillas for dinner, we stayed warm in the steadily dropping temps. Elk bugled throughout the night. Woke up to a 24 degree morning, packed up, then we headed off to Mount Baldy.
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After meeting joe and preston in globe we drove out to the government trailhead and then escudilla to set up a shuttle. i found both trails to be excellent and the aspen were in peak color. the government trail has an hint of "enchanted forest" feel to it in the upper stretches. the way down escudilla offers up a fabulous view during one of the short clear sections, though afternoon light is bad for the photo ops it affords.

afterwards we drove around looking for a campsite, ultimately finding one off some FSR up on a mesa. i spent most of the freezing night telling joe he is a " crazy bleeper for making me do this" and listening to the elk bugle nearby. what a great day & night!
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Ok, so we didn't follow the Government Trail exactly, because we were with Dave Denali, who lives in Nutrioso, and knows the mountain. But we did follow some of it. We also boulder hopped up a steep lava flow/scree slope known as "The Phoenix" because from Nutri it looks kind of bird-like, with wings and a head. (See photos.) We also didn't start at any of the mentioned trailheads for the Govt. trail but on a very old road you can barely see and there is no parking by it. I could find it again, I guess! Anyway, it was a neat hike mostly off trail, until we hooked up with the upper part of the Government Trail and then onto the main trail to the tower.

The group of kids in the photos is Apache Rescue Team, a local youth group that does search and rescue and also first aid at mountain bike races. It's always fun hiking with a bunch of lively teens!
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Having been curious about this trail, I planned to check it out on the way home from working in Show Low. The mid-May monsoon had eased up, and it looked like it would be a decent afternoon when I arrived. A mom, dad, and a baby were hiking out as I headed up the trail, otherwise I didn't see anyone until the Escudilla Trail. The scenery is absolutely beautiful, and so is the trail, despite being "unmaintained". Arriving at the meadow on top of Escudilla, the skies were looking a bit nasty, but a thunderstorm never developed. On top, Don the lookout man and I talked for awhile up in the tower, watching ragged clouds drift by and admiring the mind-blowing view. I didn't have time for an Escudilla loop, but that gives me a reason to come back :) Heading down, I saw 3 backpackers coming in, before I turned back down Government. Got back to the trailhead at dusk, bought a sandwich in Alpine, then headed for home through Luna and Glenwood. This is an outstanding hike and I highly recommend it!
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Escudilla Fall Colours

A 545 mile day trip with Lynn and Skippy. After I made my first trek to Escudilla this past summer (see http://hikearizona.com/photoset.php?ID=5966 trip report), I made up my mind that I needed to return to take in the autumn colours. Thanks to some tips from Elizabeth (azbackpackr) concerning current foliage status on Escudilla, we decided to make a day trip of it this weekend despite the stormy weather forecast.

We left the house in Ahwatukee 6-ish and made it to the trail head before noon. The drive through the White Mountains proved to be a big tease, as the fall colours progressively got better and better until you arrived at the Escudilla trail head to observe a yellow-gold nirvana.

While preparing our packs before making the mountain climb, we met Tom? and his daughter from Nutrioso - a teacher, photographer, and leader for the "White Mountain Conservation League". They were also planning to make side trek along Profanity Ridge to get optimum views of the aspen groves.

When we made our way along Profanity Ridge, the weather started to degenerate into a misty rain. By the time we made our way back to the truck at the trail head, a steady rain was falling with increasing winds.

I can report that the Aspens on Escudilla were a mixed bag - some trees completely bare, some trees completely green, but the majority a spectacular yellow/gold. Many leaves were being knocked off the trees by the wind and rain making for a slick trail surface on our return hike down the mountain.

After refueling ourselves at the trail head, we made a slow circuit around Terry Flat and then down to Alpine to take FR249 over to Big Lake. The scenery along FR249 merits a return visit for a future adventure. The planning has already started...
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I and a co-worker went up Government trail, then down Escudilla trail.

As others have mentioned, the correct starting point is 2.5 miles from the main highway. The trail is pretty clear, and several trees have blue diamond markers to keep you on track.

This trail reminded me a lot of the Humphreys summit trail, and the altitude does take its toll. With several brief stops along the way, I was able to make it to the meadow. The trail dies in the meadow, but there is the sign to mark your way. If you plan to go from Escudilla down the trail, simply head straight for the corner of the meadow to the West.

The leaves were in various stages of changing, from green to bare trees. We even saw a couple getting wedding photos taken on Terry Flat!
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The upper end of this track branches off the Escudilla Trail about a mile shy of the lookout and is clearly marked. The lower end resides in remote woods and is accessible via a route somewhat inaccurately described on the Apache National Forest website. ANF says start at the barricaded entrance to a wildlife habitat area about 1.6 miles up FR 56 (the Terry Flat road) from Highway 191. They don't mention a second entrance, the correct one, about .7 mile farther along, We started at the former, the one nearest the turnoff to Hulsey Lake. From the correct starting point, ANF's trail log distances are dubious, but the route is fairly clear anyway. We wandererd around, through really lovely country, for an hour or more before happening on the real route. The trail is little used, with some minor deadfall, but in good shape considering it is unmaintained. ANF's description mentions "excellent views off to the west", but we didn't seen them. This trail traverses heavy timber, and the best long views are up, toward the lookout.

Light rain fell off and on as we returned, becoming an actual summer shower as soon as we reached our car. While we enjoyed the monsoon teaser, forty miles south lightning struck a tree and started the Chitty Fire.

Anyone hiking Escudilla should consider including the Government Trail in a loop route that would also involve walking a couple miles along FR 56.
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Directions given by Forest Service are wrong. Instead of driving 1.6 miles on FR 56 it's 2.6 miles. Secondly don't park at the 1st locked gate which will be on the left but park at the 2nd locked gate which will also be on your left. Occasional blue diamonds on trees will mark the way to the Government trail. Nice hike with no people encountered until the JCT with the main trail in which I saw about 50 people on a nice summer Saturday.
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We had been to the top of Escudilla and were on our way down when I decided this was good a time as any to check out Government Trail. There's a trailhead (actually trailend) marker in the meadow at the top of Profanity Ridge but the trail itself isn't obvious. Just follow the tree line west to the farthest point in the meadow to a large cairn, and from there on "you can't miss it". Since the F.S. claims to not maintain this trail, I thought it would be pretty trashy, but that's not the case. I encountered, at most, half a dozen fallen trees across the track and no washouts. Due to the thickness of the forest, there are few long views except those up slope toward the fire L.O. This area apparently did not burn in catastrophic fire of 1951 or whenever, so there are no aspen groves. I saw a couple grouse but no other wildlife. About half way down the single track joined a former logging road, which in another mile intersected the bed of a former road, now blocked, which connects to F.R. 56, the Terry Flat road. Total distance about 3 miles, or a mile longer than the Escudilla trail and about 800 more feet in elevation gain. I followed the F.R. back to the Escudilla traihead, about 2.5 miles and up hill the whole way. I really enjoyed Government Trail and will probably use it in the future except when aspens are in high color.
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