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Quien Sabe-Bear Loop, AZ 
Quien Sabe-Bear Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 04 2025
kingsnakeTriplogs 895
Hiking7.61 Miles 566 AEG
Hiking7.61 Miles   3 Hrs   23 Mns   2.25 mph
566 ft AEG
 
1st trip
Partners none no partners
The last five years, I’ve averaged seven or eight Rim hikes. In 2025, before today, I had only done two.

Meant to park down FR 719. Instead, I parked right at FR 95. As a result, I walked past the east branch. I was halfway down the west branch before I realized what I had done. I thought about turning back, but ah, what the heck. It counts.

As I cruised along Cabin Loop, I noted that at least the bottom 200 yds. of the draw’s east branch were easy travel. (I cannot attest to the upper part of the east branch.) I could not locate Quien Sabe Spring. Instead of following the trail out of the draw, I stayed left along the dry creek bed. A decommissioned road is on the west bank.

Below FR 719, the draw gets rocky, but travel is not difficult. No part of the draw had tangled vegetation or serious deadfall. Bailing from any part of the draw, and via either side, would be trivial. Looking up & down Bear Canyon, it appeared to be smooth sailing.

Alas, not.

Bear Canyon was either rocks, rocks hidden in grass, tangled vegetation, pools, or some combination thereof, all the way to the FR 95 washout. High vegetation can throw you off balance. Low vegetation can trip you, or hide ankle breaker rocks. Both could be poisonous. I have no idea what poison ivy or poison oak look like, so I try to avoid all vegetation as much as possible. I spotted no bail points.

To avoid Bear Canyon, loop back via FR 719, Cabin Loop, or the other branch of Quien Sabe Draw.

I didn’t relish climbing up the washout. Instead, I walked beside the crushed culvert to it’s far end. To the right, there is a use trail up, through more vegetation. Easy peasy.

From the washout, I zipped along FR 95 to where I started.

Rumble Video: https://rumble.com/v6ym72u-hiking-quien ... n-rim.html
Vimeo Video: https://vimeo.com/1116544549
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 Named place [ checklist ]
[ checklist ]  Bear Canyon  Quien Sabe Draw
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Besides the photos, I also saw Wheeler's thistle, alpine false springparsley, Richardson's geranium, Richardson's bitterweed, fleabane, and yellow coneflower.
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average hiking speed 2.25 mph

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