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Hellsgate 37 ( North ) to Tonto Creek - 49 members in 119 triplogs have rated this an average 3.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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It had been a year since I had done this hike, and with the temperature in the 50's I decided to head up to Payson and do this hike again.

There was very little water in Salt Lick Canyon, so the creek crossings were a non issue.

Water flow in Hellsgate was light to moderate. Normally there is heavy water flow there at this time of year.

The trail seems to get more and more eroded -- there is lots of loose, rubbly, ankle-busting rock to deal with these days.

There is lots of up-and-down on this trail, and it is more up on the way back, which makes for a tough hike. I am glad that it was a cool day!

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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Salt Lick Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Salt Lick Canyon was mostly dry, but there were a few shallow pools with some water.
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Linda asked me to come up with a hike for today, and I decided to take her to the Gates of Hell.

It had been 11 years since I’d done this hike, so some of what I’d told Linda to expect was a bit suspect—like that it’s mainly downhill getting to Hellsgate. It was actually uphill right from the start, climbing 200 feet right off the bat (1,000 feet of accumulated elevation gain to get to Haigler Creek).

We wore jackets, hats, and gloves for the first mile to fend off the 24-degree start.

Clear skies offered good views of the surrounding landscape. After a short break at the El Grande Tank, we completed the descent to the Gates of Hell.

Water was flowing, birds were chirping, and the fall colors were just beginning to show. You could tell Linda felt completely at home here.

The climb back up was easier than expected. This time, we had lunch at the tank before finishing our hike.

It was great to get back out here and hike in nearly perfect weather.
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Hellsgate 37 ( North ) to Tonto CreekPayson, AZ
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Hellsgate trail was Bruce’s suggestion for sort of a last minute hike. I’d never done this one, so it sounded good to me. Bruce assured me the hike would start off downhill. After we’d gained 1000’, the trail did in fact start to go downhill.

The trail was a little vague in places, and we managed to get some bonus aeg due to not paying attention. The only truly steep part was the final descent down to the creek. Loose rock added to the fun.

Took a nice break by the water. Then we headed back uphill. The steep part was slow going, but seemed to be over fairly quickly. The rest of the climb out went smoothly. We ate lunch near the tank. Temps were wonderful for the day, with a nice breeze at times. I wore a jacket for the first mile or so, but was fine in just a shirt after that. Saw some turkeys near the trailhead, some ducks at the tank, and evidence of other wildlife along the trail. Good hike and a good workout.
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I decided to head to the Hellsgate Wilderness today and hike down to Hellsgate -- this was the 5th or 6th time that I have done this hike.

There was more water in Salt Lick Canyon than I have seen in the past -- without waterproof footwear you'll get your socks and feet wet in some of the numerous creek crossings in this canyon.

Not surprisingly, there was lots of water flowing in Hellsgate at the confluence of Tonto Creek and Haigler Creek. It was a nice place to stop for lunch before making the climb back out.

I did not see anyone on the hike today, which wasn't too surprising for a weekday.

This is not an easy out-and-back hike -- about 70% of the elevation gain is on the way back.
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I saw some phlox, wiry lotus, and manzanita blooming; but that was about it. It is a bit early for flowers in this area.

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El Grande Tank was full

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You'll need waterproof shoes to keep your socks and feet dry on many of the water crossings of the creek in Salt Lick Canyon
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Dese and my second trip here, Kriket's first (and likely her last). Our thoughts were that it's a proper hike and essentially comparable to three quarters of a S.Kaibab to BA Campground day hike, sans the stunning GC views. There's some overgrowth and deadfalls in sections and trail washouts, but not too bad when compared to some Supes trails. It was neat to experience the area when the trees were leafless and the creek turbid. Took us less time to hike out. :-k
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My original plan was to hike the middle Highline, but the updated forecast mentioned high winds and much cooler air temps than expected. At the last minute, I switched to taking Dese hiking in lieu of the more involved motorcycle shuttle. It turned out well, starting early with cool temps and mostly sunny skies. The route is actually quite similar to the Highline, basically mundane, but with more overgrowth, more elevation change and a bigger payout at the end. Tonto Creek at the terminus reminded me a lot of Bright Angel Creek in GCNP. It's definitely a beautifully peaceful area. On our return, it was maxim Mogollon May, in that it was sunny and sprinkling, overcast and hailing, and windy with four thunder boomers. It seemed to be much more stormy, briefly to the south. We traversed over Apache Ridge on the return just for poos and giggles. This route would be brutal in the summer heat.
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I had not done this hike in a couple of years so I decided to check it out today.

There was water in the creek crossings within about 2 miles of the TH. This section was a nice part of the hike.

There was plenty of water flowing at the confluence in Hells Gate.

It was a sunny day but the temperatures were pleasant. I would not want to come back out of Hells Gate on a hot day (about 70% of the elevation gain on this hike is on the way back).

On the way to Hells Gate, not far before El Grande Tank, I bagged the Hells Gate Ridge highpoint, which was only 200-300 feet off of the trail.

I did not see another person on the entire hike. I think that this was the first time that I had Hells Gate all to myself. I could easily have spent the entire day in Hells Gate.
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There were a few wildflowers in the meadow above Hells Gate, but that was about it. With the cooler than normal winter, flowers in this area won't be much until later this month.

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El Grande Tank was full

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This was by far one of my favorite trips. The amount of cattle that I was pushing through was insane- at one point there must have been 20 cows plus all their calves scattered across and down the trail. In my experience, cattle can be pretty mean- especially around their babies. So, I kept a distance the whole time. The flow at Tonto Creek was so gentle, I was able to float upstream on my inner tube and explore the slot canyon to the left when you drop into Tonto Creek from the steep descent above. The water at this time of year was absolutely frigid- especially in the deeper pools in the narrow canyon. Spent some time exploring downstream as well, but the canyon upstream was far more interesting.
 
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This was a quick overnight into a new wilderness area for me.

The trail starts out along a 4x4 road and crisscrosses it for the first several miles. Easy hiking, but not much to look at. There's a steady pattern of ups and downs that reminded me of hiking back home in the Appalachians.

The views started coming once we reached the wilderness boundary and were primarily on a ridge. The Rim came into view as well as some rolling slopes with little tree cover. The final 2-2.5 miles of the trail are all down hill. The first section carried us through a grassy slope-side meadow with a gentle grade. After that the trail became steep, loose and rocky all the way down to the creek.

There was plenty of room to set up camp after crossing the creek. There's a large site in the flood-plane and an even bigger one up on the little ridge above it. We had no trouble finding room for 7 tents for the night. My Thermodrop recorded a low of 24. There was plenty of frozen water in small pools on the hike out the next morning to back up that reading.

Overall it was a good hike, but nothing special.
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It had been 6 months that I have hiked in the Payson area, so I decided to change that today.

It turned out to be a nice day for a hike -- it was barely cool enough for me to enjoy this hike.

There was no water in the creek crossings today, so there was no issue to keep my feet dry.

There was a decent amount of water at the Tonto Creek confluence, but not as much water as normal.

There were 2 people fishing at the confluence, but they were the only people that I saw all day long.

This is a fun hike, but it is a tough one -- 70% of the elevation gain is on the way back.

The trail was generally rocky and slippery, so I did not go any faster downhill than I went uphill.
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There weren't many wildflowers to see -- a few strawberry hedgehog and a few western wildflowers was about it.

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Roussi, Erica and I have tried to get this one off the ground several times. Earlier in the winter, we worried about not enough daylight. Then, there was too much snow. This time we pulled it off, and had a spectacular day hike from near Route 60 to the canyon.

Finding the trailhead parking is not so easy. I found that navigating to N34 16.8025 W111 8.2303 puts your right at the turnoff to the parking on NF-405A. You can put this into Google Maps and get there.

We departed the trailhead and headed out around 6:30 am. The trail follows the two-track for a long ways. I had been watching the snow depth on the NOAA website, and it only melted off here earlier in the week, leaving the trail a little wet, with minor mud in places.

We speculated on some tracks we came across, a 4-legged creature running along the trail for sure. At the time we speculated feline, but as I have looked at Roussi's pictures later, I am pretty sure it was coyote.

Eventually you start seeing signs for the trail leaving the two-track, usually to go around a hill that the road goes over. Either road or trail is fine, but the trail will be more hiker friendly, with a little less elevation gain.

When we got to the wilderness boundary, we hunted up the Geocache that is there, just outside the wilderness, and signed the log and left a small gift for the next person.

Once inside the wilderness, at times, the trail is not very distinct, or rather, there are too many trails. There are cowpaths galore. At El Grande Tank, you can follow the paths either way around the tank. The path along the dam, through the trees turns out to be less desirable, as there are bees there. We heard them, but never saw them. Past the tank, the trail becomes even more vague, but I was able to imagine it and stay on track.

As we continued down, we ran into a couple of men returning from am overnight backpack down near the creek, the only people we saw this day. To those guys, if you ever read this, we knocked the cowpie off that you put up on the wilderness boundary sign. That was a disgusting act! Not at all funny.

The last bit of trail down to the creek is treacherous, but do-able with poles. It is mentally much easier to go up that section than to go down. We had lunch at the creek, took a few pictures, and headed back up.

It is a long climb backup. It seems like it is uphill the whole way until about a mile from the parking lot. The wind came up, bringing a threat of minor showers, but they never materialized. Fortunately, the wind was at our back, so it gave us a small push up the hill.

We got back to the cars about 3:30.
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Really not very much yet.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 El Grande Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
Plenty of water in this tank, but a little muddy. The creek is a much better option unless you are desperate.

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Plenty of water in Tonto Creek here. We did not cross over to check any of the other creeks flowing in at this location.
 
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A friend and I hadn't been to Hell's Gate in a few years, and neither of us had done the South end of the trail. Started at 6:30 and walked for an hour in the dark.

Cows everywhere on the way in. Trail's the same as it's ever been to Hell's Gate. From there the trail was in good shape. A little overgrown and faint in a couple spots but no trouble. Eventually it switchbacks out of Smoky Hollow Canyon to the ridge. Turns into a two track that is steep and slippery but easy to follow to the road.

At the road we met a guy who had driven out to the southern th and was going to descend down to Tonto. Road in is reportedly slow going but not bad with 4x4 and some clearance.

Started toward Winter Camp but decided to save that for another day. Headed back the way we came and saw one backpacker on the way out.
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Hike was... 💩. We just didn't really enjoy. Lots of rugged terrain and scree and the only pretty views are aft 6 miles you see "some" canyon. And we saw probably 40 cows and 2 bulls. Super friendly lil fellas... 🐮
But... Down the canyon... Absolutely beautiful. Very peaceful. Saw 2 hunters and 2 other backpackers. Maybe Don and I are just spoiled... We treat ourselves to more pretty thru hikes. Anyways... We came we saw we slept we conquered.

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Started at Bear Flat and followed the 5/2/2015 track from @topohiker out to the end of BRT#177 at the top of Peak 5138. From there its easy to drop drop down the ridge to the southwest and arrive at the confluence of Tonto and Haigler Creeks. After a refreshing swim, slogged out on Hellsgate 37. Mtn bike shuttle back to the start.
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I had originally intended to do this hike in March, but it snowed a bit the day before I had planned to go, so I decided to put this one of for a few weeks.

This was a nice hike, although it was a bit warmer than I would have preferred. We left early, and the hike was a good one all the way to Hell's Gate. The water flow was pretty good down there, and the pool there was fine for swimming if you didn't mind the water being a bit cold. If someone wanted to you could have waded up Haigler Creek.

The hike out was a good uphill climb for a bit, which was a good workout on a warm day. On the way back we met a few people on the trail -- people are heading to the forest on the weekends.
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There were a few wildflowers here and there, but some sections were nice.

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Quick one night backpack. Water/outside temps were a bit too cold to do any exploring up or down the creek. Water flow was also very high and fast, but that just means I'll have to come back.
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This breathtaking hike was a welcome retreat from the valley. We camped out the night before, just up the road from the trailhead where there were numerous spots to choose from, slept in, and got a 10:00 start on the trail. From start to the last mile before the creek the trail was wide, well-maintained, well-marked, and easy (save for a couple minor slogs). Scenery along the hike was stunning - peaks, cliffs, and canyons in pristine wilderness so close to home. The last mile hiking down into the canyon and back up was a little tough and required some scrambling in a place or two, but was well worth the effort. Tonto was flowing strong with cold, delicious water and the numerous campsites at the bottom of the canyon gave us a great place to stop for lunch and enjoy the beautiful scenery.

Shockingly we only ran into one group on the whole trip - a trio with as many Australian Shepherds from a local rescue in Payson.

This hike was an absolute treat and I cannot wait to return.
 
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Checked this off my list. I've been pondering this hike for 2 years and finally managed to squeeze it in. Yes it's a burning hike. I'm not a fan of reverse hikes but here we go.

As usual I like the road less traveled. We ran into one domesticated human hiking out as we were about 1 mile in. A quick chat revealed he had camped overnight and warned of the confusing trails within. Continuing on we ran into a family hiking out and looking pretty haggard. Chalking that up to the fact that they didn't look like hikers we continued on. Fabulous views as we crossed the ridgelines and began the descent into the steep switchbacks. Yes this hike will burn but well worth it. The meadow before the final descent is definitely a sound of music through back. A must do hike into hell and hell's gate. What goes down must go back up.
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Hellsgate 37 ( North ) to Tonto CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking14.90 Miles 3,375 AEG
Hiking14.90 Miles   7 Hrs   16 Mns   2.44 mph
3,375 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break
 
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It had been about 5 months since I had been to Payson, and I had never hiked to Hellsgate, so I decided to kill 2 birds with one stone and hike from the Hell's Gate TH to Tonto Creek.

There were quite a few creek crossings for the first and last 2.5 miles of the hike. I managed to do enough rock hopping to keep my feet dry.

I thought that this hike was VERY scenic. I didn't see any wildlife, but there were quite a few signs of elk in the area.

The descent over the last 1/4 mile down to Hell's Gate was really steep -- it was much better coming back up than it was going down.

There was lots of water in the confluence of Haigler Creek and Tonto Creek. Here is a video: [ youtube video ]

There were several creek crossings over the first couple of miles of the hike. I managed to keep my feet dry, but had to do a good bit of rock hopping to do so.

This is definitely a hike that I will do again. I imagine that it could be a hot hike in the summertime though.

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There was lots of water in Hell's Gate at the confluence of Haigler Creek and Tonto Creek. There was also a good bit of water in the creek that is within a couple of miles of the Hell's Gate TH.
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