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South Fork of Cave Creek #243 - 15 members in 53 triplogs have rated this an average 4.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Apr 09 2024
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On day 2 in the Chiricahua’s we hiked the South Fork Cave Creek. We had hiked the lower portion before but instead of continuing up stream we headed up the Burro trail about 1.1 miles. This time we intended to hike up the creek hopefully all the way to where the crossover trail to the Horseshoe ridge Trail meets. This would have been a 15 mile round trip so I didn’t expect to make it that far, Good to set high goals. We only made it but 4.6 miles in far short of our goal, trying to keep dry boots at all the Creek crossing took up too much of our time. I’m a bit faster at crossing but it was fun watching Ginny do the crossings, very entertaining. I’m glad we managed to do quite well keeping them dry. I’m like Linda, I didn’t want to hear my hiking companion complaining about soaked feet the rest of the hike. Beautiful canyon the trees are starting their spring show. No one on the trail after the first mile after passing all the bird watchers. We will have to do this hike another time when the stream is easier to cross or bring water shoes. Short video of stream crossings

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Very few wild flowers

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Feb 17 2024
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Nov 19 2023
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Nice mellow day. Lots of sycamore leaves to crunch over at the start. The whole canyon glowed thanks to reflective light off the walls and the turning of grape vines, locust, oak. Surprisingly quite a few maples hanging onto their leaves, some of the younger ones in an electric pinky red. One of my favorite trees looked better than it has since the fires. Some pools covered in leaf litter, one I found out accidently with a partial immersion. I didn't see anyone until I started back then multiple small groups of old people :).
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Little hike in Cave Creek Canyon. Camped in Pinery, but the group suggested Log Peak (not sure how anybody even knew about it), and I was happy to revisit this, with the possibility of vibrant colors. Parking lot was full, but it didn't feel that crowded. Bright red maples started appearing about a mile in, near the pool. Orange sycamores the whole way. Intermittent flow below Maple Camp. The best colors were from 1-2 miles, but there are still a lot of maples that haven't fully turned yet.

The jaunt up the peak was fun, Burro Trail is very clear up to the saddle at this time. Looks like the saddle is a somewhat popular spot.
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Most of the maples are yellow to bright red. Sycamores are orange and will probably drop their leaves very soon.

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Mostly dry, but there is light flow in some stretches.
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Did a quick check here in the morning and Ash Creek Gal later. Not yet. Needs another week or two. Sycamores are still yellowish green mostly and the first maples are turning at the top green at the bottom. I did not go that far. Water level seemed low and it seems pretty dry and it was a bit warm I thought.

Ash Creek-- what a cluster. I'll have more on that tomorrow.
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As mentioned in Chumley's triplog we were supposed to do different hikes except for the beginning. They went on ahead thinking I would not see them until end of the day. Kathy and I hiked along the South Fork of Cave Creek taking in the scenery and passing some occasional trogonistas who were occupied with their own quest.

Venturing up trail further we didn't see as many people and the creek was flowing nicely. The goal was to hike about 4 miles to make it a good 8 mile out and back. Near the turn around spot we heard some voices and to my surprise it was Chumley, 9L and Ryan. They ultimately decided against the big loop but they picked a great spot on the creek to turn around. Took an extended break and even took a dip in some great pools!

Eventually we packed up and returned back down the same trail to the car. Great hike and need to come back to explore further up trail!
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We set out on split plans with two headed for a shorter day and three of us looking to do a big loop. Turns out the folks at the CC visitor center literally couldn't tell you where a trailhead is, never mind any trail conditions. This left us a little bit unsure of our loop options. 14 miles or 16 with a shuttle? :-k

Turns out that about 4 miles in we realized that it's sort of warm here in May, and after yesterday's hike we were totally drained. We decided to bail on the big loop and head back to look for something cooler and higher up for the afternoon.

Then the rest of the group showed up and we depleted all our beers and snacks sitting next to, and maybe in, the creek. It was nice in the shade, and heading back down canyon was enjoyable since afternoon freed the place from the grip of the trogonistas.

I still need to take this one all the way to the crest, but I'll wait for a cooler season to make check these off the list.
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After more than a decade of efforts following the 2011 Horseshoe II fire and 2014's Hurricane Odile, the South Fork Trail has officially been restored for its entire 7.2 mile length from the trailhead to its upper terminus at the Crest Trail #240C. Numerous volunteer and conservation corps efforts in the early years led to an opportunity for Wild Arizona to partner with the Forest Service and numerous local and national organizations to fund a restoration of the upper several miles. In 2021, miles 4 – 6 were restored, and between November 2022 and April 2023, the remaining 1.2 miles, which had almost entirely disappeared, was rebuilt. Volunteers took on the significant effort of brushing and logging out the totally overgrown corridor, and Wild Arizona's Wild Stew Field Crew retreaded that entire section end-to-end.

Note that some of the creek crossings at lower elevation can still be in rough condition due to varying water levels and seasonal flooding, and it's an ongoing effort to keep them maintained and hopefully relocate some of them to more sustainable locations.

The Burro Trail, which connects to South Fork, was worked in the summer of 2022 nearly to Horseshoe Saddle, but there are still some major issues in the half mile before the top. The Burnt Stump Trail is passable but has dozens of logs down and a fair bit of brush. Burnt Stump Spring is generally reliable. The Crest Trail #270C is fairly grassed in and faint in places but we defined the junction and also worked on rebuilding tread in a few sections northwest of the junction with South Fork. Baker Canyon Trail and Horseshoe Ridge Trail have not received recent attention and are quite overgrown and faint.

Hope you all get out and enjoy the trail while it's in great condition and the weather is perfect to explore!
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Several hikes/bird walks, and a couple of bike rides.
The weather was ideal and the creeks were flowing better than I've ever seen them.
Stayed at Sunny Flat, which was about half full - Stewart and Idlewilde only had one or two campers each.
Bird activity was relatively low - but I did see my first Elegant Trogon in over a year, and got pretty good photos. Lots of deer, a few javelinas and a couple of snakes rounded out the wildlife.
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This was the day 2 morning hike before the drive back. The clouds provided some entertainment but no thunder/lightning so no danger. The trail was easy and with quiet and running water it was a pleasant environment explore. I saw a turkey vulture and a curious squirrel but no other critters.
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The second hike for this weekend was much easier and much less of a drive, only 10 minutes away. The weather app showed lightning 27 miles away on the west side of the mountain we climbed the day before. It was pretty cloudy when we left the lodge, but no lightning or thunder apparent.

Started on the trail at 5:27am, which has to be a record for me at a start time. It looks like the trailhead was moved another quarter mile or more north and the trail extended. We noticed that the track was further in from where we parked, but there was no more road to drive. Later we noticed a berm that was built up and beyond that looked like the remains of a road that nature is gradually reclaiming.

This hike is super easy, and the scenery is really nice. The trees give shade and cover from rain, and the creek is visible at all times. The high canyon walls at times reminded me of looking up at the South Rim of the Grand Canyon from Phantom Ranch. The creek flow was spotty for the first two miles until the junction with the Burro Trail. After that the sound of running water is constant.

We opted to start off with rain gear since it was trying to rain on the way in. About a mile and a half in we got a steady drizzle that lasted about an hour or so. After that, the sun was breaking through here and there, lighting things up a bit and making it look nicer.

The weather stayed cool and comfortable, which made it very nice again as a contrast to the heat and mostly dry terrain in Phoenix right now. We didn’t see too many birds, which this area is known for, but I could hear them the entire time. Much nicer sound than the cicadas from two weeks ago at the Cochise Stronghold. I recognized a few bird calls from the Route Scout app, although I couldn’t remember the name(s). There were also a few bird calls that I’ve never heard before. I was able to get one photo of a bird that stayed still long enough to let me get a shot. The last mile out is when I saw all the hikers for the day, slackers who slept in until 7am. They mostly appeared to be birders.

Finished up just after 9am and got home before 2pm, making very good time. It was a little bit of an adventure getting onto I-10 from this area heading up the dirt road that had several washouts, but it wasn’t too bad. Overall a very good weekend getting out of the heat and also away from the masses, no small feat this time of year.
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Woke up early but delayed my hike up South Fork for a bit - last time I got there too early and the birds weren't that active in the shady canyon until the sun started to hit. I walked around the campground area seeking the sun for awhile instead.
It was still early and I was the first vehicle down the road, I think - since I found a tour guides headset in the middle of the road - not run over, and still working. Probably from an owling trip the night before.
I was the only car in the parking lot - last year there were a dozen or more. One hiker caught up with me - looked like he might be going much farther, a hiker not a birder. Scott's Orioles were singing and being beautiful everywhere, along with many flycatchers, and happily I heard and saw a Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher - only my second one ever! As I got back to the lot and continued walking up to the bridge, which is always a good spot, I ran into a large group with their guide ... five or six cars parked haphazardly, blocking the road. Blew past them and kept walking to get back to my peaceful solitude - only to be passed by another tour group - these in two vans, going too fast and kicking up dust ... and stopping in the middle of the road. I'm glad the canyon is less crowded, but not a fan of this new influx of guided tours ... at least they hit and run, not lingering too long in one spot. Had another nice chat with a couple I met down the road as we walked back up after the tours departed (bathing us in road dust again).
Back to camp to load up and get going before it got too hot.
I took a quick detour to the Thick-billed Kingbird nest spot on Cathedral Rock Road. As I was parking and hoping I was in an acceptable spot, far enough off the narrow road and not blocking anything so as to not annoy the residents, a car pulled up next to me and I thought she was going to tell me not to park there - instead, she greeted me with a big smile and said "that Thick-billed is just back there at the top of the Sycamore". I love this about Portal! She mentioned she just lived down the road and I said "lucky you" and asked if it was ok to park where I was. I searched the sycamores for a few minutes but didn't find the bird - thought I might have seen it fly off - but when I turned back around, there was the lady again ... at least 70 years old and walking down the hot dusty road with her cane to come invite me to her house and bird her yard! I hesitated because I really intended to get going, but after I talked with her for a few minutes I accepted her invitation and was so glad I did! She has an amazing property there - an old spanish-style house with thick adobe walls and saltillo tile - dark and cool. She said it was 110 last summer, but never got above 80 in the house even without using her ac - that's how houses need to be built in AZ! We sat together for an hour and had a lovely birding session in her yard - got all three orioles, more Western Tanagers than I've ever seen in one place, and several first-of-year birds for me, and some of the best photos of the trip. She is quite the fun and interesting person and I'm glad I've made friends with another Portal local ... will definitely visit her again. Oh, and I got the Thick-billed Kingbird when I went back to my truck - life bird #327!
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I did the full loop in one day leaving from the South Fork TH, branching off onto the Burro and then dropping down back to the top of South Fork and back.

It's important to know that large parts of the Burro Trail are almost completely burned out/lost. At times there are some slightly uncomfortable maneuvers in order to bridge the gap--i.e. scree ground at a steep angle leading down a steep cliff. Other times the catclaw has completely grown in. In short, it's a rough trail right now... and no trail in many places. As you get up to snow line, that gets even worse. It didn't look like anyone had been up there for a long time. So, there's no trail for the snow to lie horizontally on. Which means, there's no visible trail. I ended up pounding my way through hundreds of yards of icy snow. If I didn't punch a hole in the snow, I would have slid down and off a cliff. Often I had to go up steep inclines, on the ice, just to get to safer ground. Then finally dropped down a gully, through the snow, to get back onto South Fork. Once on South Fork, it was a cake walk.

Moral of the story, this trail is not at all maintained. And is a bit of a bear to get through. That being said, lots of beautiful views and indefinite solitude.
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Wild Arizona's Wild Stew Field Crew, in partnership with the National Wilderness Stewardship Alliance, Coronado National Forest and Chiricahua Regional Council, as well as the volunteer Chiricahua Wilderness Trail Crew and other local volunteers, has completed a restoration of an approximately 2 mile section of the South Fork Trail through the steep side canyon that is locally known as the "Chute", between the departure of the trail from the South Fork of Cave Creek and the bottom of the basin below Burnt Stump Spring and Sentinel Peak.

This section of trail was heavily damaged in 2014's Hurricane Odile with over 1/3 of the tread completely obliterated and another 1/3 heavily damaged. Various efforts over the years have restored the lower 4 miles of trail, but until recently little to no restoration work had begun in the chute.

In September 2021, volunteers with the Chiricahua Wilderness Trail Crew joined efforts with Wild Arizona's Wild Stew Field Crew to begin preparing the corridor through existing trail and a series of reroutes, then in November the Wild Stew Field Crew spent two 8-day hitches building the reroutes and repairing damaged trail in between.

As it currently stands, the trail is in good condition to within approximately 0.2 mi below the junction with the Burnt Stump Trail, and is only partially cleared the remaining distance with flagging marking the route to the junction. Neither Burnt Stump nor South Fork is currently in good condition above those points, so through-hikes or loops remain a challenge, but even as-is the trail makes for a lovely 12 mile out-and-back through beautiful riparian canyons with brilliant red cliffs and spires.
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Late in the season up higher but still brilliant colors on maples in the first few miles of the canyon
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Long on my list, I finally made the trip to the real Cave Creek. As always, I had done next to zero research, but I knew Horseshoe 2 had done a number here and the flooding had forever altered the canyon. I'm sorry I didn't get to experience it before that happened. I think I read a comment saying that this area would no longer be a place to enjoy the changing of the seasons. I don't know who wrote that, but it's obvious they've never actually been here.

What an absolute delight this hike was! Colors, water, birds, deer, leaves, geology, etc. Pretty much checks all the boxes!

I was working on a half-day schedule so opted against a full loop to the crest, but was hoping to meet up with a friend working on a trail crew about 5 miles up canyon. I ended up turning back where I later learned was less than half a mile from their work site. Oh well. Their work was evident along the way. It's been a long time since the fire, but still nice to see the FS investing in trail work. Always appreciated.

After getting started in the mid 30s, it warmed up to fully pleasant and I really enjoyed this one and am making plans to return here again.
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Ok, again uneven fall turn. Even the ferns confused with the continuing warm weather, some green like summer, some dead like in fall/winter. A few people on the trail, more cars at the TH than people that I saw. Some people that A: Don't know that the colorful trees are maples and B: don't know what poison ivy looks like. Ah, the pleasure and the pain.
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On our second day in the Chiricahuas we hiked the lower South Fork Cave Creek Trail #243 and the lower Burro trail #240. The road along the south Fork was a bit more crowded with Bird watchers, one group had all sorts of cameras set up to photograph a trogan that was in the trees above. I'm not sure what a trogan is, sounds like an alien from the Doctor Who series. Once past the birders we came to the trailhead for the South Fork Trail. Two other cars in the parking area and one of them was leaving. Both the South Fork and the Burro Trails were in good condition. Lots of creek crossings along the South Fork and with the high flow it was difficult to cross without getting wet. After a few crossings we abandon the idea of trying to stay dry. Good hiking weather although a bit muggy but not uncomfortable.

The South Fork Trail is quite scenic through a riparian area with colorful rock cliffs high up on either side. Came upon a skunk early on in the hike and gave it some distance. I can handle bears, mountain lions and snakes but skunks are a different story. Quite a beautiful skunk and kind of cute looking in a skunk sort of way. We also came across two people doing trail Maintenance, stopped and talked to them for a bit. They had just gotten done working on the Saulsbury Trail on the west side of the range. When I passed by the Saulsbury trail yesterday I thought it looked recently worked, much better condition than it was a few years back. I told them that I would mention the rework in the writeup I do on the Saulsbury Trail and they said to make sure I say that the area really sucks and wouldn't waist your time coming. They like the mountains to remain isolated with few visitors. The article that was put in a New York Paper/magazine about how good the birding was brought lots of people to the area. So in keeping my word: this area really sucks and don't come.

We took the Burro Trail up to just past the first saddle to the creek that runs to the south of South Cave Creek and turned around. Took a break at the saddle. Really nice view up and down the South Fork Cave Creek and the creek just to the south of it. By now the clouds above were rumbling with thunder and we decided we better head back before the creek gets any higher. I will have to come back here in the fall or spring and finish the South Fork Trail and the Horseshoe Ridge trails.

A video of some of the many creek crossings. [ youtube video ]
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Started hiking around 3:45 am to attempt to beat the heat. Lots of wildlife out in the early morning including an adorable skunk who was not interested in moving from the trail! The trail was great and easy to follow for about four miles. Pools of water here and there with more pools in the lower canyon. The further up the canyon I went it became dry. Also, I saw maybe four bear poos along the lower section of trail. They all looked pretty fresh but felt hard when I poked them with a stick (had to be sure!). The trail begins to have small segments missing around the split from the South Fork of Cave Creek (31.83625,-109.223987) but the trail is pretty much always there the entire hike. It breaks up & is sometimes challenging to find or is obscured by bushes. Anytime the trail seemed to disappear I continued in the same general direction and it would quickly reappear. Flagging and cairns also mark the trail after the point where it becomes more challenging to find.

Leaving the South Fork of Cave Creek #243 trail and heading to Burnt Stump Trail I just went directly up through brush. That small segment (about 1000 ft) was thorny BUT, in comparison with Heliograph Peak (in the Pinalenos) or KP Creek to Blue Peak (in the Blue Range Wilderness), the thorns felt like feathers. There has to be a more direct entrance to Burnt Stump Trail though because, once I found it, it was a pretty nice trail. Burnt Stump has some overgrowth along the trail and a couple challenging sections where the trail washed out & is now a single track. The Burnt Stump spring is right on the trail (31.81542, -109.23684). It is contained my a piece of metal creating a small pool. I'm not usually finicky about water as long as I have a filter but this water looked kind of strange and not something I would drink if it wasn't an emergency. Still, it was there & filled the metal pool in mid-June so that's good!

Then on to the Sentinel Peak Trail. All the peak trails in the Chiricahua Mountains seem to really take it to the next level for that tiny final stretch & Sentinel is no exception. The trail either disappeared or I lost it towards the very top. There's great views getting up there but views are obscured at the very top. There's a concrete pad at the top & I took a quick rest to prepare for the suddenly warming temps (9 am-ish). Headed back down & felt grateful for the breeze and fleeting cloud cover but it honestly wasn't bad. Back in the canyon there is enough tree cover to create shade on one side of the canyon and there was a decent breeze. The flies were pretty insane though. They would not leave me alone. Maybe I was just really stinky at that point. Stopped to cool down at the pools of water a few times which was exactly what I needed. Got back to my car & the temp said 103. It definitely did not feel nearly that hot in the canyon. The hike took much longer then anticipated. I thought I would be back at least a couple hours earlier but I think the trail-finding & navigating obstacles slowed the hike down significantly. Great hike though! The canyon part is so so beautiful, views along the Burnt Stump Trail are gorgeous, & the trails really are in good shape for the most part. I would suggest adding additional time for trail navigation and/or slowly moving through the dry creek bed.

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The metal enclosure holding the water was full. Water was dripping out down the drainage but the pool was completely full. Water did not look great though.
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Early for color but since I was suffering from fall FOMO I went ahead and made the drive. IMO mid November should be good. Again, some trees are turned, mostly red and small outliers. Plenty of big green maples. Some water in the creek. I was alone on the trail except about 1 min on my return from my vehicle encountered 4 hikers. A couple of people had set up chairs and having lunch at the TH. Looks like a little more work on the rerouted trail. For some reason I felt more depressed seeing the changes in here than I had previous. Think it's just the overall year I've been having in general. Great weather tho and great to be out.
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