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May 31 2005
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47 male
 Joined Apr 27 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Wet Beaver Canyon LoopCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Backpack avatar May 31 2005
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Backpack22.00 Miles 3,000 AEG
Backpack22.00 Miles2 Days         
3,000 ft AEG
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I did this trip two years ago on memorial weekend. it was just as spectacular as last time but this time we were a little more prepared. We started at 10:00pm Sun night and hiked until 2:00 am Sat morn. We camped at the Apache Maid Tanks. Saturday we went around hog hill and down Waldroup Canyon. This part is exhausting. There was quite a bit more water this time. Plenty for filtering. The water was a refreshing sight once we were down in the canyon. We had a run in with a huge rattle snake so be careful. We camped just past the second mandatory swim. Camp sights are few and far between. Sunday we started at 9:00am and enjoyed the swims and sights. Last time there was a blockage of drift wood that you could either swim to and climb over and swim again or hike up the north side avoiding the water altogether. But you had to scale down a tree on the other side. The blockage was gone this time so you could swim all the way through. There has been some major flooding down there in the past year. Our plan was to get out that night. We had it set in our heads that that was what we were going to do. We ended up having to do the last couple of swims by head lamps which made the trip even more exciting. We were back to the truck by 10:00pm exhausted. This is a great trip. It can be done faster but we spent time goofing around and playing in the water.
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Oct 16 2004
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47 male
 Joined Apr 27 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Willow ValleyPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 16 2004
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Hiking2.50 Miles 760 AEG
Hiking2.50 Miles   6 Hrs      0.42 mph
760 ft AEG
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We went in just above the second pool. We brought rappeling gear just in case but we didn't use it. We probably should have and I wouldn't advise it. We shimmeyed our way around the second pool. We had to swim through the third pool. This time of the year is not a good time to go swimming. The first time I went the water was so cold but tolerable with the sun out. The sun doesn't hit the third pool at all durring the day at this time of the year. When we climbed out my feet were numb and our bodies were bright red. It was probably just above freezing.
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May 29 2004
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47 male
 Joined Apr 27 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Tonto CreekPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Backpack avatar May 29 2004
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Backpack21.00 Miles 1,000 AEG
Backpack21.00 Miles2 Days   18 Hrs      
1,000 ft AEG
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A buddy and myself parked the car on Friday evening just as it was getting to dark to see. We spent the next 3 hours getting down into the canyon. Right below Hells Gate. It gets a little bit slippery going down the last little bit into the canyon. We got down there pretty late into the evening. There were a lot of nice camping spots. We would find them with our flashlights and also find that they were already occupied. The only spot left was in a flat spot that was littered with toilet paper. I found it a little disappointing that people wouldn't keep it clean or even a little more inconspicuous. As soon as we got up we started the journey. There wasn't as many people as I thought. There was one group of 8 that we would run into periodically. The rest of the hike was 1/2 in the water and 1/2 out.
a lot of boulder hopping. We saw several snakes only one being a rattler. The days preceded as hike as far as you can until it is too dark or you get too tired. The trip was too quick. It is so awesome down there I wish I could have spent an extra day.
I got the idea of floating my bag from someone that had already done this hike. You put an semi inflated therma-rest on your backpack and put a rainfly over it. When it is time to get into the water, take your pack off turn it straps up and and float it across. My problem with this was it took too much time taking it off and prepping to get into the water. Because you get into the water so often. It was just not practical for me. So I had a back up plan. I had a dry bag the exact size of the inside of my backpack. I emptied my pack stuffed the dry bag into my backpack and filled it with all the stuff i wanted to keep dry. It worked great. I just left my pack on all the time. The dry bag kept me up like a bouy. On the real long swims my pack would take on more and more water but never so much to impede my swimming. Swim with your feet in front of you. The water was really murky and you couldn't see very deep. I would run into rocks falling and dinging up my legs, sometimes real good. That was the frustrating part of the trip not being able to see where you were stepping or swimming.
We took really heavy bags. We ate good, slept in tents & I even brought a pillow. It was sure nice eating cooked meals instead of power bars. But jumping rock to rock with that pack on caused my knees to swell. If I do it again I'll definitely do it the same. All except the shoes. I wore Chacos and socks the whole time and they did ok it was only when walking in the water it would suck little rocks in between my foot and the sandal. So I had to stop and clean them out often.
I took the digital camera and got some really neat photos. It was just a pain getting it out every time we saw something neat. I was always afraid of getting it wet or dropping it into the water. Note: bring water proof disposable camera.
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May 20 2004
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47 male
 Joined Apr 27 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Brown's PeakPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar May 20 2004
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Hiking4.80 Miles 1,957 AEG
Hiking4.80 Miles   7 Hrs      0.69 mph
1,957 ft AEG
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It is a pretty casual hike until you get past the saddle. Then it gets real steep and fun. There were a couple of guys up there doing some rock climbing with ropes. The top is beautiful. You can see forever. The ladybugs are out of control.
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May 19 2004
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47 male
 Joined Apr 27 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Willow ValleyPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 19 2004
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Hiking6.50 Miles 760 AEG
Hiking6.50 Miles   8 Hrs      0.81 mph
760 ft AEG
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This was a great hike if you want a tough but quick one. Going down from Maxwell tank was brutal with the prickly bushes. The manditory swim through the pools were freezing cold!By the time you would climb out of the water the lower half of your body is numb. I loved it. After the pools the hike for the rest of the way was beautiful. I don't know much about snakes but we saw a king snake or a coral snake. It was about 30 inches long! right in the trail. You have to cross the creek several times on the way through. Not just the few pools to swim. great day hike.
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Apr 03 2004
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47 male
 Joined Apr 27 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 03 2004
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Hiking12.20 Miles 3,122 AEG
Hiking12.20 Miles   7 Hrs      1.74 mph
3,122 ft AEG
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This is the beauty of the desert.
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Nov 23 2003
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47 male
 Joined Apr 27 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Camelback Summit - Echo Canyon TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 23 2003
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Hiking2.30 Miles 1,300 AEG
Hiking2.30 Miles   2 Hrs      1.15 mph
1,300 ft AEG
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great hike this time of the year.
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Jun 29 2003
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47 male
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 Mesa, AZ
Havasu Canyon TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Backpack avatar Jun 29 2003
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Backpack21.00 Miles 2,496 AEG
Backpack21.00 Miles3 Days         
2,496 ft AEG
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This is by far one of the greatest hikes ever. I have done this hike several times and it never looses its magnificence. It gets really hot in the summer time so bring lots of water with you. And drink it too. The first time I went I got severely dehydrated and on two other occasions there were people down in the canyon that died during my trip. So be carful. It is usually on the way out, hitting the switch backs during the middle of the day. Once down in the canyon there is quite a few things to do. You can just hang out at the falls(Navajo, Havasupai, Mooney, and Beaver), there are a few trails to hike (the Apache trail or hike up Carbonate Canyon). There is a old iron mine used during the World War. It was quite an operation. Be careful if you decide to go in. There are shafts that go straight down dozens of feet. If you are really adventurous hike all the way down to the Colorado River. Its quite a hike but if you leave early in the day you can make it there and back in one day.
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May 23 2003
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47 male
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 Mesa, AZ
Wet Beaver Canyon LoopCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Backpack avatar May 23 2003
Mountaingoat1977Triplogs 9
Backpack22.00 Miles 3,000 AEG
Backpack22.00 Miles2 Days   20 Hrs      
3,000 ft AEG
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I went to a web sight that had this hike listed as their only extreme hike out of 100 or so. I was definitely extreme. We left the trail head at 7:00pm so we had to use our head lamps. We hiked the Apache Maid trail up and out of the canyon. Once on top we found a nice camp sight among the prickly pear. The next day we hiked in the hot sun. If we stoped walking the hundreds of little flys would eat us alive. We couldn't run away from them. When we got to the base of what we thought was Hog Hill there was a fork in the road. We went left (the wrong way) and ended up at the edge of the canyon with no way down. We decided to hike around the south side of hog hill. I think that maybe it was longer. By the time we got to the Waldroup Place Tank we were all out of water and dehydrated. The water in the tank was too murky for my filter and were exhausted. We set up tents to escape the flys and took a nap. When we awoke we took off knowing that we had to find water soon. We hiked down Waldroup Canyon lowering our backpacks over two of the seven water falls. Before we got to the bottom where the two canyons meet we ran into a stagnant pool of water. It had flys and moths drowned on top and tadpoles and mosquito larva living inside. We did not know when we would get to the creek so we braved it and filtered the water. fortunately we did not get sick. But we did get hydrated. Once to the bottom, we walked only 2 or 3 hundred yards down stream before the water flowed from under the rocks. It was beautiful. We slept upon a big flat rock. For the next day and a half we saw the most beautiful country that I had ever seen. It was in the most rugged country that I had ever traveled. We would stop often to just gaze at this piece of God's wonderful creations. We saw three big snakes. One being a rattler. All of our knees were swollen due to the punishment of rock hopping for the 8 or so miles down stream. When we got back to the truck we were beat up and tired but that was the greatest hike ever.
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