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Apr 23 2006
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72 male
 Joined Oct 04 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Sycamore Canyon Rim LoopFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 23 2006
gcroughTriplogs 6
Hiking10.00 Miles 590 AEG
Hiking10.00 Miles   5 Hrs      2.00 mph
590 ft AEG
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Hiked the loop from Dow Springs trailhead minus the KA hill section. This cuts over a mile and the only major climb out of the hike. A group of us did the full loop last June. Late May or early June is propably the best time to do this hike. The difference was on April 23 water lilys were just starting to sprout (vs. in bloom in June 2005) the Oak trees are not yet showing buds (vs fully leafed out in June) and the roses looked like dead bushes (vs. being in bloom in June). Other plants were in bloom in early June ... nothing during this trip. This is still a nice hike with a lot of variety.

We used the Overland Trail to loop back prior to KA hill section. This historical road would be almost invisable if not for the cairns and postings ... I will post a photo with both. We saw several deer on this section of the hike ... I expect any group not making a lot of noise will enounter wildlife on this section of the Overland Road (it appears to have few hikers).
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Jul 02 2005
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72 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Inner Basin Trail #29Flagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 02 2005
gcroughTriplogs 6
Hiking6.90 Miles 2,398 AEG
Hiking6.90 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   1.97 mph
2,398 ft AEG
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This was my 3rd hike into the Inner Basin; great summer hike -- always cool. Instead of taking the road (main trail) up to Jack's Spring we took a trail we found to the east (perhaps 3/4 mile from trailhead?). It was more scenic than the road. See photos. The connection is with the Waterline Road (which nearly encircles the peaks). When you hit the Waterline road you are only a few hundred yards east of Jack's Spring.

The climb up the road is gradual ... at a lower altitude this would be a moderate hike ... but the elevation slows me down a bit. The trail we took to the east is a bit steeper until you hit the Waterline road.
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Jun 11 2005
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72 male
 Joined Oct 04 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Sycamore Canyon Rim LoopFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 11 2005
gcroughTriplogs 6
Hiking11.00 Miles 590 AEG
Hiking11.00 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.00 mph
590 ft AEG
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Hiked Sycamore Canyon Rim Loop on 11 June 2005 with Paul L and Paul S. We headed south from the Dow Spring trailhead (1 of 5 on the loop) as recommended by Richard & Sherry Mangum in their book: Flagstaff Hikes. Excellent advice. The path is down one of the two major drainages forming Sycamore Canyon's headwaters. The entire loop, which skirts both major drainages, is well signed but the Dow Spring trailhead displays the most complete MAP: (north to the right).

The 3.5+ miles to Sycamore Vista passes a series of lush ponds, sitting in deeper and deeper depressions that eventually form a canyon. A Sycamore Vista sign signals the junction of the northeastern and northwestern drainages (see map in photo). The "vista" is less interesting than views from the rim along the eastern drainage (leave the trail to take in views). But it is more expansive ... the view is straight down Sycamore Canyon. Sheer basalt cliffs (look for rock climbers) guard the end of the western drainage. The trail leads away from the main canyon and into this drainage and within 3 miles reaches a series of natural tanks: Pomeroy Tanks.

Water lilies appeared near the end of their bloom cycle. Prickly pear, pincushions and a pink flowering shrub called New Mexican Locust were also in bloom. Wild roses, which appear to thrive on banks above streams and pools, are abundant. The weather was perfect (60s with cloud cover) ... we got sprinkled on very briefly.

I selected this hike despite its low (3 HAZ) rating. I liked the elevation (between the deserts mountains I hike in winter and the Kachina Peaks I save for summer) and photos posted by HAZ member meyer90 intrigued me. Thanks meyer90. This is likely the most underrated hike on the HAZ site.

If photos worked for me - maybe they will for you also. I posted several; take a look at them before passing up this hike. Anytime except winter (snow) should be fine. In the early spring part of the trail may be in a wet marsh but I understand snowmelt creates a nice waterfall. There is likely a lot less water in the summer; that may make the ponds and tanks less appealing.

The KA Hill portion of the loop was disappointing. Trees obstruct the "great view" at the top. Scenery along the trail is fair enough; some big Oak and Alligator Juniper. But the 4+ miles of similar stuff compares poorly to the scenic variety provided by the southern half of the loop. I rate the KA Hill section at most a 3 but the other half the loop is at least a 4.

Hikers demanding some exercise should include KA Hill; it is the only sustained climb on the hike. Others can convert this moderate hike into an easy hike by taking one of the roads that intersect the loop (FR 13, FR 56 or better yet, the unused historic Overland Road) to create a shorter loop bypassing KA Hill. That's my advise ... spend your extra time and energy exploring the Pomeroy Tanks, the springs, enjoying the views along the rim or watching rock climbers.

NOTE: This is one of those rare hikes with good cell phone coverage. I don't want to encourage phone use but some are concerned about emergences.
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May 31 2005
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72 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Boynton Canyon Trail #47Sedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Hiking avatar May 31 2005
gcroughTriplogs 6
Hiking5.00 Miles 685 AEG
Hiking5.00 Miles   3 Hrs      1.67 mph
685 ft AEG
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Completed this hike on Memorial Day (30 May). That is close to the end of the best season ... the temp was in the mid 80s but in a month it will be much hotter. The 1st 1/2 mile features a resort on your left ... as long as you are not expecting backcountry wilderness it is not all that obtrusive. Decide for yourself ... I included a photo. The hike starts in a manzanita brush forest, moves up to an oak forest with some alligator juniper and ends in a ponderosa pine forest with views of the canyon walls between the trees. From the end (a trail continues but there is a sign requesting that you don't) there is a view of the "headwaters" of the creek ... it falls from a cliff. After a rain that is likely a nice waterfall but it was just damp rock on 30 May 2005. The view is still a good one and there is a side creek (also barely flowing) at the trail end.
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May 07 2005
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72 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Horton Creek Trail #285Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 07 2005
gcroughTriplogs 6
Hiking8.00 Miles 1,183 AEG
Hiking8.00 Miles   4 Hrs      2.00 mph
1,183 ft AEG
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Trail starts by crossing Horton Creek a few yards above its' meeting with Tonto Creek. The official trail is an abandoned jeep trail traveling up the west side of Horton Creek. The creek was within hearing, but out of sight for most of the hike. In the summer the flow may be all underground but there was a decent flow during my hike. Heed the call of the creek and take some of the many short detours (including paths that run between the road and creek) for a more scenic hike. Until you start switch-backing near the top, the trail is only a few yards from a view of the creek.

The 4-mile hike to the Horton headwaters is a gental climb. (Some claim not to notice they are going uphill ... it is very clear to me that the trail is heading up but the grade is gradual and steady.) The headwaters, at least two springs flowing out of limestone, are quite scenic.

The hike itself (if you don't make excursions to the creek) is nothing special -it is typical of any hike near the rim. The trail, especially where runoff has converted the original jeep trail into a wash, is rocky. I included a photo ... it is typical of the Jeep trail but you can take side trails between the raod and the creek for a good chunk of the hike.
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Oct 04 2004
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North Mountain National Trail #44Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 04 2004
gcroughTriplogs 6
Hiking1.80 Miles 600 AEG
Hiking1.80 Miles      50 Mns   2.16 mph
600 ft AEG
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I have done this hike (the loop ... which is about 1.8 miles)about a dozen times. Not because it is great ... I rated it "1" . But for me it is a perfect training hike and close to my home.

North Mountain is as steep as the major Grand Canyon trails but MUCH shorter. If you complete the loop in under an hour with little effort ... you can also do something more scenic ... like any of the SF peaks or the Grand Canyon hikes (with much more effort of course).

I recommend the loop. Start at the trailhead at the southwest end of the park by the Quechan picnic area. Hike to top then down the north side. A paved road used to service the towers takes you most of the way down. Watch out for a trail coming from the north end of the park to meet the road. Follow it back to complete the loop. This route eliminates a steep decent on a trail containing a bit of rubble.

There are fair views of the city from the top (see photos) but this is more a training hike than a destination hike.
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