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Apr 04 2011
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41 male
 Joined Mar 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Pine Mountain Short Cut Trail LoopCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Backpack avatar Apr 04 2011
HawaNateTriplogs 6
Backpack12.50 Miles 1,665 AEG
Backpack12.50 Miles   10 Hrs      1.25 mph
1,665 ft AEG45 LBS Pack
 
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I did the reverse of moovyoaz's loop with my girlfriend the weekend of April 2-3, 2011. We camped at the trail head, which was easy to find and offered about 5 sites with fire pits, picnic tables, etc. There was a Honda civic there, if that gives any road quality indication. I'm sure he had a bumpy drive, but it seemed the car was still in one piece.

Anyway, Civic guy (Jay?) came out of the woods around 11 pm totally dehydrated after setting up camp at the peak and deciding to come back due to lack of water. He had taken the Nelson Trail to Willow Springs trail to the peak, set up camp, and come back.

The next morning we decided to reverse moovyoaz's loop, hoping that we would find water at the springs noted on the western slopes of the map, and especially near the camp site. If we didn't find any, we could easily return to the trail head that same day.

So, the report: there was running water all along Sycamore Creek, downstream of Black Alder Spring, noted on the map. Some parts were better than others but I'd say it was at least 20 gpm. On the Western slopes, Beehouse Canyon and Beehouse Spring were bone dry. I can't report on West Prong Sycamore Creek's lower reaches, since we took the shortcut trail. There were pools at Bishop Spring, in Bishop Creek, and at the campsite (also Bishop Creek). None of them appeared to be moving. They had bugs but were clear (no green). Bishop Spring had a cow pie at the water's edge. We used the water from Bishop Creek, in conjunction with a steripen treatment and boiling, and did just fine with that combination. Along the rest of the trail, we didn't really see any water. There were a couple very green and nasty looking pools higher up Sycamore Creek on the Eastern slopes, but nothing very drinkable.

The reverse route was a good way to go. I think we would have been mighty thirsty by the time we hit camp, had we gone clockwise. It was nice to bang out half of the elevation before refilling water.
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dry Beehouse Spring Dry Dry
No water whatsoever.

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The spring itself, where it's noted on the map, was pretty dry. Bishop creek, at the trail crossing, had pools of water. One had a cow pie in it. All had mosquitoes. Bishop creek at the camp site was the same, minus the cow pie. Decent pools of water. We used Steripen as a pre-treatment, and boiled the rest before drinking. No ill effects.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Black Alder Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Pools of water, flowing underground. Some above water pools were green, others seemed fresh.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Nelson Place Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
My estimate at 20 gpm. Running nicely in the lower reaches, with small waterfalls, etc. Photos to come.

dry Willow Spring Dry Dry
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Mar 14 2009
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41 male
 Joined Mar 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Cottonwood Camp to Lone Pine via AlderPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 14 2009
HawaNateTriplogs 6
Backpack24.00 Miles 7,000 AEG
Backpack24.00 Miles1 Day   13 Hrs      
7,000 ft AEG
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A great hike - highly recommended. I'll be figuring this site out more as I become aquainted with it, hopefully I can get some more pictures up here soon.
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Feb 07 2009
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41 male
 Joined Mar 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Piestewa Peak Summit Trail #300Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 07 2009
HawaNateTriplogs 6
Hiking2.20 Miles 1,180 AEG
Hiking2.20 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   1.47 mph
1,180 ft AEG
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Nov 22 2008
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41 male
 Joined Mar 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Camelback Summit - Echo Canyon TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 22 2008
HawaNateTriplogs 6
Hiking2.30 Miles 1,300 AEG
Hiking2.30 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   1.53 mph
1,300 ft AEG
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Nov 01 2008
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41 male
 Joined Mar 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Peralta to Fremont SaddlePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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HawaNateTriplogs 6
Hiking4.90 Miles 1,440 AEG
Hiking4.90 Miles   3 Hrs      1.63 mph
1,440 ft AEG
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A great little day hike if you've only got a few hours. Close to Phoenix, easy to do and beautiful scenery.
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Mar 15 2008
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41 male
 Joined Mar 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Sunset Vista Trail - Picacho PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 15 2008
HawaNateTriplogs 6
Hiking6.20 Miles 1,985 AEG
Hiking6.20 Miles   3 Hrs      2.07 mph
1,985 ft AEG
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average hiking speed 1.59 mph

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