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Jan 25 2015
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Goldfield Ovens Loop with Salt River addition, AZ 
Goldfield Ovens Loop with Salt River addition, AZ
 
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wrabbitdogTriplogs 2
Hiking9.11 Miles 995 AEG
Hiking9.11 Miles   6 Hrs   48 Mns   1.94 mph
995 ft AEG   2 Hrs   6 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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My wife and I took a long weekend vacation from Alaska (got a great deal on our flight). We left the kids at home and picked out a few hikes, this was one.
After spending 2 nights at El Dorado Hot Springs in Tonopah with a great dayhike (see Ben Avery Trail log/route) we headed back through Phoenix and found ourselves on the edge of the Tonto NF. We went polar opposite and got a great deal on a room at the last minute at the WeKoPa hotel outside Fountain Hills for two nights.
Before we left home, we had decided to do the Ben Avery Trail and this one. However, after reading some of the triplogs I was having serious second thoughts because we wanted to avoid developed areas and we had a less than ideal experience walking in the wash on our previous trip. We considered bailing and heading up to Payson or elsewhere up the highway, but in the end decided to stick with our first idea and do the Goldfield Ovens.
I had heard about the Tonto Pass, but didn't realize that you couldn't buy the pass anywhere near here. We noticed that there were a few cars parked on the highway near what looked like trailheads and where there was a conspicuous lack of 'no parking' signs. After a quick stop at the 'lodge' by the dam, we learned that the passes were only required to use the developed sites for parking (where there was asphalt - not something we were planning on). We again decided to risk our rental car and parked at one of these turnoffs about halfway between the picnic area and the dam - right next to a trail access. It turned out to be a good decision - we didn't have any problems and we didn't have to drive all the way back to town for a pass.

Once we left the car, we headed northeast on a series of informal trails until we found the main trail that took us to the picnic area. At this point, I was getting pretty disillusioned since we saw a ton of trash around - primarily beer bottles (mostly broken) It also looked like every cactus had bullet scars. We were starting to regret our decision to not head up the highway, when we encountered our first person. Just east of the picnic area, we came across a younger woman taking her housecat for a walk. Of course, the housecat was black, which my wife saw as another bad omen. This area is very brushy and it would not be possible to walk off-trail. We passed the edge of the parking lot and quickly found that the trail became sandwiched between the river and a steep slope. We followed a huge grey squirrel for a while, and watched some folks on the edge of the river, but they were far enough from the trail that I didn't even feel the need to nod or wave. Once we got 1/4 mile away from the parking area, we noticed a great decrease in trash and signs of use. We didn't see anyone else on foot until we got under the highway at the other end of the trip.

Once we left the road and the river, the temperature warmed up a bit and we found ourselves back in the wash in somewhat of a narrow canyon. We did what we could to stay on the edges or above the wash, but the triplogs from others are largely correct - the stuff is hard to walk in - even without a substantial pack. There is a point around here where the wash is choked off by large rocks on either side, and it almost feels like you are walking into a theme park entrance.

After exiting the canyon, we were easily able to stay out of the wash and go overland. The area is fairly heavily vegetated, but was easy to roam around on informal trails. My wife and I have both done some desert hiking, and we knew to beware of Cholla cactus - but we both 'got bit'. I only got it once, but she had unfortunate experiences twice on this trip...This area was neat because we could see the Fountain in Fountain hills, despite the fact it was so far away by road - we were still fairly close as the crow flies. There were a bunch of great rock formations to climb on and we took a few breaks.

Around here we found a cool white lavender-smelling bush. After wandering we found a few more - it was unexpected to find sweet smelling brush at this time in the year.

From there the trail climbed a bit to a high point before getting a good view of Saguaro lake and starting to head down hill. As the trail got closer to the road, it became more of a canyon and more of an interesting walk. This is also where the large sheer faces along the lake and river come into view and they looked awesome. Coming down through this area was truly spectacular.

At the bottom of the hill the trail goes under the highway in two enormous culverts - I can only imagine what this area looks like at flood stage! The road was a bit loud, but on the other side of the culvert, the trail takes a hard right turn on an old roadbed until it disappears into the area between the road and the river.

We had planned on taking a walk along the river after the hike, so once we were so close, decided to just follow the riverbank from where we were until we got lateral to our rental car. We stayed on a series of informal trails - frequently walking right at the water's edge. We ran into a few folks fishing, one kayaker, and some others walking, but this area was still very empty - especially for a Sunday evening. We had to come up from the river bank a few times at cut banks - but were able to stay far from the road the entire time. Only once did we have to walk along a parking lot - but for just 100 yards or so. We did find a few cool secluded beaches (that were only secluded likely because it was 4:45 in the afternoon and it was only in the high 50's - not swimming weather). We took off our shoes and soaked our feet in the cool water while we had our final snacks and watched the huge spires along the river change color in the evening sun. Once we got across from the place we parked our car, we headed in a bee line for the highway and walked right to the spot. Getting through the barbed wire fences wasn't too hard, although I certainly felt old crawling on the ground under it just before a 20-something duck hunter appeared out of the area by the river and hopped the fence in a single jump to a post. (he was a neat kid, friendly, and we had a nice chat)

The car was fine (no ticket) and we wound up staying there for 25 minutes or so watching the alpenglow as the sunset finished.

Since we had come to the area from the North, we decided to head back the opposite way and we drove through Mesa - getting to the Blue Adobe Grill around 6:30. Highly recommended - their Chorizo stuffed Chicken was sublime and went great with the carafe of margaritas we shared!

One funny anecdote - I thought it was strange another log mentioned the heavy police presence in this area. They weren't kidding. Once we got to the area around the dam we saw at least a dozen sherriff vehicles - most in the process of pulling people over. We drove pretty slow, and I wasn't concerned, but I would recommend everyone drive the speed limit around here.

Overall this hike was great. My wife and I think it got a bum rap from other triplogs. I especially liked the area along the river at the beginning of the hike and the part from the peak down to the road at the end. We had great weather - mid to high 70s and the trail was great. Again, I especially appreciated your app (which I used on the Ben Avery Trip, although this time I 'cached' the map before the trip so it was more useful). Because this area isn't a designated wilderness, I have no qualms about encouraging use. I was a bit disillusioned about the broken glass and beer bottles near the picnic area, but this is almost to be expected and something that can be cleaned up in a few volunteer excursions. The trail doesn't have much elevation gain, and it is nice to walk along the river - even in the winter.

Wildlife seen
Grey squirrel
Several lizards

No wild horses :(
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Jan 23 2015
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Ben Avery-Indian Spring / Courthouse circuit, AZ 
Ben Avery-Indian Spring / Courthouse circuit, AZ
 
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wrabbitdogTriplogs 2
Hiking8.68 Miles 380 AEG
Hiking8.68 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.89 mph
380 ft AEG   2 Hrs   30 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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We live in Alaska and my wife and I left the kids with friends and headed down to AZ for a long weekend. We stayed in Tonopah at the El Dorado Hot Springs, which was pretty cool - a bit pricey, but filled to the brim with hot mineral water and stories about other guests and the 'volunteers' running the place. One of the nice parts was that we were only 10 miles east on I-10 from the road to the Ben Avery Trailhead.

The description on the main page to get to the trailhead was perfect. There was no way we would have found the trailhead without these great directions. We had a Jeep Liberty rental car, and we got to the trailhead pretty easily. There were a few sketchy parts on the pipeline access road, and we probably would have been in deep doodoo if we had run into trouble with the rental car, but I'm used to driving on poor roads so we didn't have any problems. The other gravel roads up to the first Eagle Tail sign and the pipeline road were in great condition.

The trail was in great shape. We fairly quickly wound up in the wash about a mile or so into the trail, and after deciding that it wasn't as much fun as walking on the beach (because there was no ocean), decided to go overland. Because we had the route map on my cellphone, going off trail was no problem and worked out GREAT for us! The only problem with the mobile app was that I didn't realize I would have to cache the map to view it when we were out there without cell service. It wasn't a huge deal, though, since we still had the GPS route on the phone, so it would have been absolutely impossible to get lost. Having the GPS route was enough even without the topographic map.

The hiking was very easy - we had great weather, with temps around 66 and good sun (we really need our vitamin D from the sun during the winter)

We found the large wall with petroglyphs before getting to the spring and decided to have lunch. We wandered around the face before walking around to the right and up behind the large wall. We wandered around on top of the hill before walking down the other side where the spring was. It was a bit of a climb to get down and then up into the spring which is not as hard to find as I had presumed. There is an old signpost in the wash that probably led to the spring.

After taking more pictures, we headed back towards the trailhead, and decided to again avoid the wash. We walked up the valley directly opposite the spring and hugged the side of the mountain as we paralleled the trail which was in the wash. We found a few large rocks with more petroglyphs that probably aren't seen by many folks due to their distance from the trail.

Having some wilderness experience, we spread out and wandered the hillside on the way back to avoid making a trail. I do wonder about the fence that ran perpendicular to the trail here. We also crossed this fence in the wash on the way out. I presume that there are still some nearby cattle, and the fence is there to protect some resource, but was surprised to find a fairly well-maintained fence in the middle of a lower-48 Wilderness area. Since we're talking about Wilderness, I did want to bring up the topic of ethics and access here. I am in a quandary, since I typically consider myself more of a 'purist'. IMHO, Wilderness areas shouldn't have designated trails and even this website and ability to share routes and specific notes runs the risk of causing long term damage to specific areas. I was VERY happy to see no recent trash (we did find and remove a few VERY OLD soda cans that had probably been there long enough to be considered relics) and minimal graffiti near the petroglyphs (although any graffiti is too much) I greatly appreciate the ability to share stories, routes, and notes, and hope that others who read this description share my desire to keep this land as 'wild' as it can be for as long as possible. The fact that an area as wild and beautiful as this is very untrammeled, despite being so close to a major city, is a true testament to the outdoor ethics of Arizonans! GREAT JOB! I only wish we could train my fellow Alaskans to treat our land with as much respect as I observed in AZ.

Once we got close to Courthouse rock, we decided that we had enough time to circumnavigate the rock and avoid the trail on the way back to the trailhead. This was a pretty easy add-on and gave a neat perspective of this great mountain. Check out our route if you're interested. We took a ton of breaks along the way and the whole trip took 5 1/2 hours and wound up being almost 9 miles. The entire time after leaving the pavement we saw a total of two other people, and they were driving a side-by-side ATV on the pipeline road near 557th and Centennial Road (you'll know the intersection when you get there). We saw some planes, and on our way out a camper near the small stock tank near the trailhead, but other than the fence we didn't see any improvements and had a great Wilderness experience!

Wildlife seen:
Mule deer on the far side of courthouse rock
tarantula south of the trail at about the midway point
underwater snails in Indian Spring
2 Cows in the valley just North of the spring and petroglyphs
Tons of little lizards
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