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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH, AZ
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Description 115 Triplogs  2 Topics
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 Superstitions SW
Difficulty 4    Route Finding
Distance Round Trip 12.2 miles
Trailhead Elevation 2,400 feet
Elevation Gain 1,366 feet
Accumulated Gain 3,122 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 6 - 7 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 27.81
Course Loop Hike
Author joe bartels
Descriptions 204
Routes 650
Photos 8,613
Trips 2,816 map ( 14,651 miles )
Age 45
Location Phoenix, AZ
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Trailhead Forecast
Historical Weather
Map - Beartooth Superstition Wilderness
Forest Tonto
Wilderness Superstition
Backpack - Yes & Connecting
Seasons - Late Autumn to Early Spring
Official Route
Alternative Routes
Nearby Hikes Area Water Sources
direct air miles away to trailhead
0.0  Barks Canyon - Complete Route
0.0  Barks Lower Canyon Loop
0.0  Barks Upper Canyon Loop
0.0  Bluff Spring Loop & Weaver's View
0.0  Bluff Spring Mountain Loop
0.0  Bluff Spring Mountain Summit
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by joe bartels
Here's a popular loop hike around Weavers Needle from Peralta trailhead. The direction of this loop is up the Bluff Springs Trail for 2 miles. Take the Terrapin Trail north through Needle Canyon on the east side of Weavers Needle for 2.9 miles. Crossover on the Dutchman ( 1.1 miles ) to the Peralta Trail ( 6.2 miles ) and bring it home.

The whole loop is a rollercoaster ride with two minor ascents to note. First comes the immediate haul up the Bluff Spring Trail. I prefer to take this loop counter clockwise as stated above. On warmer days you get a shady return down Peralta Canyon. If you go clockwise and first head out on the Peralta Trail... you will encounter a minor ascent on the north end of the Terrapin Trail.

The trail on the south end of Black Top Mesa used to be called Needle Cutoff Trail. Now it's just a section of the Dutchman Trail. Old topographical maps are incorrect near the Peralta / Dutchman junction. The trail on the old topos appears to cut straight down and back up East Boulder Canyon (this canyon runs between Black Top Mesa & Palomino Mtn) Now the trail takes a more gentle approach. It zig zags down and back up so it's not as strenuous.

A couple things to think about... The first is on the Bluff Springs Trail. You want to take a right on the flat slab of rock in the creek. Get a topographical map; otherwise you'll end up heading up Barks Canyon. Next... you might be thinking of cutting this trip short with a crossover immediately north or even shorter immediately south of Weavers Needle. Fritzski wrote up some clues to the south shortcut. For the north approach get a topo and think Terrapin Pass. Beware, off trail adventures in the area can be hellish.

Check out the individual trails for further information: Bluff Spring Loop & Weaver's View, Terrapin Trail & Peralta Trail
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    Map Drive
    Water None you can count on
    Sun6:22am - 6:06pm
    Preferred Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb → 10 AM
    RoadFR / Dirt Road / Gravel - Car Okay
    Permit $$

    Tonto Pass is a forest wide permit for recreational sites and campgrounds. Typically not for trailheads.

    Directions To Peralta Trailhead
    7.6 miles east of the junction Idaho Rd / US-60. Turn Left on to FS77 which is Peralta Road. Follow FS77 5.6 miles to a left and up turnoff. Continue 1.9 miles to Peralta Trailhead.

    The trailhead has restrooms minus running water. The parking lot is huge. It does fill up in season on weekends. Since there are no lines the rangers ask that you park straight between the posts in the main lot. Please do your part with this simple request and make room for the next guy. 0.5 miles before reaching the trailhead is an overflow lot which is also suited for horse trailer parking.

    From PHX (Jct I-10 & AZ-51) 45.2 mi - about 1 hour 8 mins
    From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 97.0 mi - about 2 hours 16 mins
    From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 192 mi - about 3 hours 15 mins
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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