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Comfort Springs Trail #109, AZ

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Distance One Way 2.33 miles
Trailhead Elevation 7,381 feet
Elevation Gain -657 feet
Accumulated Gain 432 feet
Kokopelli Seeds 3.77
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7  2019-08-12 rwstorm
5  2019-07-04
Carr Peak - Comfort Springs Loop
27  2018-07-15
Ramsey Vista Campground
8  2018-05-27
Carr Miller Pat Scott Peak Loop
10  2018-05-27
Carr Miller Pat Scott Peak Loop
18  2018-04-05
Comfort Spring Carr Peak Loop
9  2017-10-08
Ramsey Peak
7  2017-10-08
Ramsey Peak
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This trail departs from the Ramsey Vista Campground and follows a course that offers good views of upper Carr Canyon, with its weathered pinnacles and crinkled rock strata, and of upper Ramsey Canyon with its emerald green riparian area. The trail starts out through an old burn caused by a careless camper in 1977. Here, it wanders among stumps and rocks where there were once trees and flowery meadows. The wildflowers have started to come back and so have the trees, but this should give you some idea of how much damage can come from one moment of thoughtlessness. The trail enters the trees again at the edge of the burn just before it begins its drop into Ramsey Canyon. The old mining town of Hamburg was located in this canyon and you’ll see evidence of it and of the mines that supported it as you travel. Many hikers connect with the Hamburg Trail #122 and follow this trail all the way through to the Nature Conservancy’s Ramsey Canyon Preserve (horses are not permitted within the Preserve). If you can arrange for someone to drive a shuttle for you and can be fairly accurate about how long it will take you to hike through, you can be picked up at the Nature Conservancy visitor center in Ramsey Canyon. Remember, you’ll need a free permit to cross Nature Conservancy property and an advance parking reservation if you intend to park a car at the Ramsey Canyon Preserve (520-378-2785). Another alternative, of course, is to turn around and hike back to where you started. A good way of doing that is to bring your backpacking gear and spend the night before making the return trip.

Great views , access to beautiful canyon, historic mining district, watchable wildlife, down-mountain hike (with shuttle). This trail is located within the Miller Peak Wilderness. There is a horse corral available at the Ramsey Vista Campground.

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2018-08-20 HAZ_Hikebot

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    Most recent of 17 deeper Triplog Reviews
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    A late afternoon arrival to camp at Ramsey Vista CG. After setting up there was some daylight left, so I headed down the trail to the spot where water is almost always flowing. It is always nice to visit this place so close to the campground. :) A serene, rain free night was enjoyed at camp. :D
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    Carr Miller Pat Scott Peak Loop
    the huachucas have been calling my name and i wanted to get down there before any potential forest closures. i figured there was a good chance of luring the Good Count Tacula down south too!

    picture perfect day in every way. we banged out a big high country ramble. the carr/miller combo is always amongst my favorite sky island experiences. we solved the pat scott peak issue by just doing them both :lol: . the trip down pat scott canyon was an unexpected wonderland of shade, big trees and even some water and flowers.

    perfect day up there. thanks for coming down JJ :y:
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    Got invited on this one as my first real hike back in Arizona after my PCT adventure this summer. I was excited to get back to the Huachucas and explore more of the range. I found it kind of poetic in a way, as I would be returning very close to the Mexican border after running away from it for 4.5 months. :)

    Me and Alex met Linda, Nick, and Kelley at the top of Carr Canyon Rd in the morning. We were a little late. My phone's battery was dead and not charging, so I wrote up some directions before I left which were pretty simple: take I-10 to SR-92, take SR-92 south, turn right on Carr Canyon Rd. I still managed to take a wrong turn up RAMSEY Canyon Rd for a little while before realizing it wasn't the same road I had been up before for Carr - Miller. :lol:

    We started down Comfort Springs Trail and connected up with Pat Scott Canyon. I thought Pat Scott Canyon was the highlight of the trip. Vegetation and running water all along the canyon. I particularly liked the section just below the ridge before you hit Crest Trail. The tall grasses mixed with the spaced out Ponderosa right before the crest of the ridgeline.

    We continued down Crest Trail with excellent views as expected, then ditched the trail and headed for Ramsey Peak. The off trail is easy going at first, but about a half a mile before the top it gets pretty brushy. Me and Alex followed along the ledge of large boulders that make up the ridgeline. It still might be faster to keep left and stay in the Ponderosa where it is less brushy.

    On the summit we enjoyed some lunch. Since there are a lot of trees on this summit you don't get a wide field of view, but what you can see from a rock outcropping on the summit is still pretty good. We took the lower route with the Ponderosa on the way back to Crest Trail and stumbled upon a clear use path, a blanket, and some pieces of garbage.

    A nice day hike with comfortable weather. All trails in good conditions.
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    first visited the huachucas with @rwstorm four years ago
    we hiked carr peak and made an attempt on ramsey peak
    late start and stormy weather cut that short, but ramsey has been on my list ever since
    joined linda and nick, with dallin and his friend alex meeting us at the trailhead
    we set out around 0830, heading down comfort springs trail, then up pat scott canyon trail
    hit the intersection with the crest trail, which was as far as randy and i got last time
    took the ridgeline back to the north, hitting pat scott peak on the way (at least that's what the topo says)
    off trail to ramsey peak, with some bushwhacking as we tried to stay on the ridge
    summit views were obscured by vegetation except for the dropoff to the south
    very windy at that point, but sheltered just below for a snack break
    ramsey looks better from below than from the summit, but still a worthy peak
    found a better route down, avoiding most of the bushwhacking
    retraced our steps, especially enjoying the ascent back up comfort springs trail
    fun to see the huachucas again - love the southern arizona sky islands
    miller peak now goes to the top of the wish list :)
    clear skies, good temps, a stiff breeze and a nice crew of south mountain regulars for this effort
    nice to hear a little about dallin's pct hike, meet alex, and hike with nick again
    another good peak with linda, too
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    Carr - Miller - Pat Scott Loop
    The grand Huachuca loop of peaks, wildflowers & enough water to filter all day. Heading in there were a lot of cars at a lower area. Only encountered one gentleman up top Miller. He called the trail scary vs previous years due to overgrowth and snake potential. The worst quarter mile section through berry bushes had been recently trimmed wide for half the section. So it seemed better than previous years. There was a lot of grass and other low bushes semi hiding the trail but I'd wear shorts again in a heartbeat.

    Thought we found two kilos on Miller. I was on the horn making deals for server enhancements when jj delivered the bad news. Just two wet blankets wrapped well in baling twine.

    My first time down Pat Scott and boy it delivered. The top is majestic views then it's a wonderful canopy along the roaring creek. We chased the google street view car around a bit on the way home.

    large hillsides plastered in yellow among others along the trail
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    After Saturday's big day, there were several options for Sunday. A handful of us decided on Ramsey. Karl and I got started around 7:30, while Belinda and some of the Tucson crew took a more leisurely morning and headed out a little after us.

    The first 2.5 miles down Comfort Springs to the Wisconsin/Hamburg/Pat Scott junction breezed by in about an hour and was mostly shaded. Rain the day before assured wet grass and subsequently wet feet. Gaiters and waterproof boots would have prevented that.

    Next was the 1800 foot ascent of Pat Scott in just over 2 miles that took almost an hour and a half. I really like the Pat Scott trail. The creek was flowing most of the way, and the switchbacks at the top are beautifully constructed at a nice grade. I saw a deer as I reached the crest -- impressive since bow season opened on Friday. After a short break, we headed across the crest toward Huachuca Gate #2. Along the way we took the short side trip to Pat Scott Peak where there was inexplicably a register full of SAHC names. This "peak" has a prominence of approximately the length of my forearm. Not sure how this is a destination worthy of a register. :-k

    (In fact, I believe that Randy says it's not really Pat Scott Peak at all ... the topo maps have it mismarked, while the true Pat Scott Peak is the 8,715 foot peak .35miles SSE of this one. Randy's name was in this register. We didn't add ours as all the pages are full. Maybe I need to visit the other one sometime?)

    A short distance later we arrived at Huachuca Gate #2. There's no gate. The barbed wire fence is frequently broken, and there is no indication that you are entering a military base. :scared:

    We chose to follow a route generally along the ridgeline, which is where the fence goes. Interestingly, the Fort Huachuca boundary as marked on the map is not where the fence is. Either way, we decided to take a wide traverse around the north side of the first peak along the ridge, saving a few feet of gain. The views down Scheelite onto the base were great! Once beyond the first peak, the vegetation thickened but there was a use path that was pretty easy to follow.

    Farther up, the ridge follows a sort of knife edge, with a sheer drop to the South into Pat Scott Canyon. The vegetation made it impossible to stay on the edge. The best route was below the ridge on the left in the forested canopy below. There were signs of use, but no real defined path.

    At the 500 foot audible Route Scout announcement, the first rain drop fell. It had been sunny up until now, with some clouds beginning to build over the peaks to the south. Upon reaching the peak it started to rain. Hard. The vegetation is very thick and overgrown up here. There's no real route. I found a glass jar with the register, but didn't take the time to read any names or sign it. Then it started to hail. This was a repeat of yesterday on Miller where it rained and hailed for about an hour before clearing up.

    I didn't think the register was at the true summit so I pushed a bit farther. I passed a solar panel and an attached relay antenna. Military or cartel? :-k The crap got too thick. Everything was wet and it was raining harder. I had to get the rest of my rain gear on. Karl and I were disappointed we would not get to sit on the peak and enjoy our summit brew. That's when the first clap of thunder hit. tarzan swing. Yesterday had been thunder-free. We were not where we wanted to be. Huddled under a tree sheltering from hail just a few feet below a ridge and a prominent 8700 foot peak. :scared:

    The trip back was miserable. It rained and hailed. Lightning flashed and thunder clapped. We abandoned the ridge and traversed the steep slope on the north side. It was hard work. But we just kept moving with the goal of finally dropping into the lower elevations of Pat Scott Canyon just two miles ahead. Upon reaching the Crest Trail we contemplated staying in the lower terrain and cutting the corner and dropping into Pat Scott off trail. A short excursion in that direction seemed promising at first but turned ugly. The flash-bang rain and hail continued. We actually decided to head back up to the crest. With less than a mile to go we figured it was the best bad option we had.

    Finally off the crest and dropping quickly into Pat Scott, we felt a little better about things, but the thunder and lightning continued. Just when it seemed to be moving away, it would start somewhere new. We just plowed on. The water flow in Pat Scott was up. Crossings that were dry on our way up were running now. Layers of white hail remained in sheltered spots.

    Normally the 600 foot climb up Comfort Springs is a killer at the end of the day. I was looking forward to it. The climb would help me warm up again. Somewhere along the climb it stopped raining. For the first time in 2 hours. Thunder still rumbled around us. We finally trudged back into camp, much to the relief of those waiting for us to return. They had been far enough behind to turn around before reaching the crest when the storm hit.

    About 15 minutes later, the sky opened up again. I was glad to be in camp this time. :GB:

    Great hike. I love the Huachucas. There's so much more here I want to explore. But I might puss out next time if there's even a chance of a thunderstorm in the forecast. :M2C:

    Pretty nice up on the crest and the military boundary above Scheelite.
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    A group of us headed out to the Huachucas for a nice weekend of car camping and hiking. We started with Carr Peak. The trail makes a solid climb that takes some effort. It was a hot and sunny day with a chance of rain later in the day. The trail eventually levels off and you make the final push to the summit. Once up top our group took a break and enjoyed the views overlooking Sierra Vista. After we had our fill we headed for Miller Peak. Along the way rain & hail started falling. Claire didn’t have a rain coat so I stayed back with her. We decided to turn around and head back but opted for a loop hike returning down Wisconsin Canyon and the Comfort Spring Trail. At some point it stopped raining and the rest of the hike was very enjoyable. The Huachucas are fantastic! The trails are in good condition and the views are wonderful!
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    There was to be some gathering of Tucson hikers in the majestic Huachuca Mountains, and I felt that some representation from the northerly neighbors was in order, so I invited myself along! :y:

    We arrived Friday night in order to acclimate for the big day ahead! Saturday morning we split into multiple hiking groups so as to limit impact in the Miller Peak Wilderness, but we all headed up to Carr Peak to start the day. From there different groups went different directions.

    Karl and Dallin and I took the crest trail over to Miller Peak. Along the way it started to rain and hail, but there was no thunder or lightning so we happily pressed on. Bknorby, justmike, MrBadBern, My Joseph, Floridasunshine, gloope, and a few non-hazzers followed and arrived just as we were starting our trip back to the north, and Karl decided to hike with them for a bit.

    The rain let up so Dallin and I decided to continue on the Crest trail around to Hamburg. This was a new trail for me. It's steep but takes you quickly down in a nicely shaded canyon to where there's running water.

    The climb up Comfort Springs trail is a grind at the end of a big day like this, and I made some kind of mistake reading the map and thought it was only a 200 foot climb. It's 3x more than that, so I was a bit irritated! We caught up to 9L and Clairebear before reaching Comfort Springs, and Karl wasn't far behind us. Once back at camp, we met up with the others who had returned via the Carr trail.

    An evening of laughter, good food, and better company followed! Thanks to bknorby for planning and letting me crash your party! :app:

    Not as nice as last year, but tough not to say it's still substantial.
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    A Sky Island hike was way overdue, so it was hard to resist when I got invited to spend a day hiking the Huachucas!

    When I first visited this range earlier this year (March), it was very brown and cold. The views were great then, but they are so much better during the summer when everything is green and the tops are covered with wild flowers.

    I had very high expectations for wild flowers looking at some of the previous trip logs. This year doesn't seem to be as substantial as previous years, but it wasn't a deal breaker. Just before Bathtub Spring is where a substantial amount of flowers can be found right now. Everywhere else is mild to moderate. In my opinion, what makes this hike is the outstanding views you get in every direction due to the prominence/isolation of the Huachucas.

    Between Bathtub Spring and Miller Peak, I picked my first ever wild raspberries after Chumley pointed them out to me. Across the connecting ridgeline we dealt with a little bit of rain and hail. No lightning though, so we were able to make it to the summit where the storm let up.

    By this time the group had split up into separate smaller groups. After the summit me and Chumley headed along Crest Trail for Hamburg and Comfort Springs. Comfort Springs has a few places with deadfall, but both are otherwise in great condition. Lots of water in Wisconsin Canyon.

    I enjoyed this loop a lot and foresee coming back again, next time maybe during the Fall season to see what the colors are like. Great to get acquainted and hike with some more HAZ folks too!

    Best spot right now is just before Bathtub Spring on the Carr Peak Trail.
    Comfort Springs Trail #109
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    Carr Crest Pat Comfort Loop
    This loop is now in my top 5 hikes in Arizona. :y:

    Great variety, great views, peace, solitude, good mileage, good gain, and a little of everything!

    Tons of birds. If you're into that kind of thing, the Huachucas are apparently a great place to be.

    Late summer wildflowers. Absolutely unbelieveable. I've never seen anything like it anywhere in Arizona. Spring? Pfft. Doesn't compare. I don't know if this is a common thing here or if this year was just the perfect storm of floral explosion? But if you like flowers, get out here and do it now. :M2C:

    Good thing there were flowers because it justified my snail-like pace while ascending Carr Peak to start the day. After a big Saturday, I was apparently a little bit tired!

    The stretch of the Crest Trail between Miller and Pat Scott is one of the most pleasant stretches of trail in Arizona. I could hike this absolutely any time!

    I decided to bypass Bah Humbug and head down Pat Scott. What a treat! Views, but shaded, a clear mountain stream, historical mining stuff, a rock rattlesnake and a kingsnake, along with signs of bear! Here is where I also saw 2 of the 3 people I encountered all day (on a holiday weekend!?).

    Not to be outdone, most sky island hikes are UP, OVER, DOWN, but this one gives you a solid climb to end your day! That's variety that you don't encounter too often, and I was happy to get back to the truck and enjoy a well-earned reward before the rain started and continued until about 9pm.

    Now I know why rwstorm likes this range so much. I'll be back! :)

    Absolutely incredible display of wildflowers. Red, purple, orange, yellow, blue, white, and yellow. All different kinds. Especially extreme on Carr and the Crest.

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    Drive 7 miles south from Sierra Vista on AZ Highway 92 to Carr Canyon Road (FR 368). Follow FR 368 to the Ramsey Vista Campground and Comfort Springs Trailhead at the end of the road (7.8 miles).
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