Snick33 wrote:When driving on 260, in that area be on the lookout for elk, they are everywhere, and hitting one is a serious accident. I read that on 260, in Sitgreaves last year, there were six Elk accidents, per mile of road.
I'd like to read that please
you've been hitting the sauce man
: rein : : rein : these aren't elks
PRESCOTT - A local Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation committee member struck and critically injured a bull elk with his pickup after leaving a fund-raiser for the animal.
The accident occurred May 17 on Arizona 89 at about 10:30 p.m.
"He was standing in the middle of the road when I came around the corner," said Scott Glattfelder, who estimated the 3-year-old elk's weight at more than 700 pounds.
@Nighthiker
Also discussed in this thread previously.
In Arizona, AZGFD reports that about 75% of vehicle animal collisions on I-40 from Williams to Winona, I-17 from Flagstaff to Stoneman Lake, and AZ-260 from Payson to Forest Lakes are due to elk. If you travel the 260 east of Payson, you may have seen the elk crossing areas that have been installed in the past decade or so.
An AZGFD study I found showed that prior to the elk crossings, an average of 12 elk were struck by vehicles in a 3-mile study area at Preacher Canyon. If you extrapolate the data to cover the 30 miles from Payson to the top of the rim, that would be 120 elk struck annually on just that segment of AZ-260. Which is about one every three days. With about 2.5 million cars passing through there annually, the odds were about 1:20,000 of you hitting an elk when you drove that stretch.
Now that the elk crossings have been installed, the rate of collisions has dropped by over 90% according to the AZGFD report (commissioned by ADOT).
I'm not sure what my spirit animal is, but I'm confident it has rabies.
I have seen the flashing lights at the elk crossing, but it's on the old section of 260. I was talking about the elk fence on the new section. It runs for miles. It funnels the elk to go underneath the bridges.
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
That section is near the Turnoff to Tonto Village and Bear Flat. This type of fence is also located near Ponderosa Campground. They believe this has resulted in "herding bears" into the campground.
Nighthiker wrote:That section is near the Turnoff to Tonto Village and Bear Flat. This type of fence is also located near Ponderosa Campground. They believe this has resulted in "herding bears" into the campground.
Haha! That unintended consequence is kind of funny!
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
180 North of Flagstaff is rife with elk grazing the shoulders. I drove through twice at night and wore out my leg being constantly prepared to slam on the brakes.
friendofThundergod wrote:hat's why so many miles of Swedish highways are lined with very tall fences.
I thought those fences were designed to curb illegal immigration from its neighboring third world countries like Norway?
I heard it was because chumley was getting ready to arrive over there...The Swedes were bracing themselves.... ;)
On a more serious Note, I did see a Dead Bull Elk on 260 below Pine coming home today...I'm sure someone's Vehicle is headed for the Body Shop....
Lifeis not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty & well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming,"Wow What a Ride!"
Was in the area just South of Pine this past weekend, not sure if they were elk or antlered camels. Thought the big ones were near Los Burros in the White Mtns.
I see a pretty big one at Grand Canyon almost every day, on the way to Grandview. Stops all the traffic of course. He's not the least bit concerned. Dumb people walk right up to him. One of these days...
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
You don't even have to call them in .. in Payson! They just wander on through!
Dawn
--On the loose to climb a mountain, on the loose where I am free. On the loose to live my life the way I think my life should be...For we only have a moment and a whole world yet to see...I'll be looking for tomorrow on the loose. ---unknown--
One dead deer tonight, and one dead tour van. I'm okay, though. It happened just after dark on 180 about milepost 249, about 13 miles southeast of Valle. Anyway, had to wait forever for DPS and the tow truck, but my bosses showed up from Williams fairly quickly. I had a tour guest in the van with me I was taking back to his hotel in Flag. Pouring rain most of the time. I'm just glad myself and guest are fine. The van took damage in the radiator, was leaking out water and steam, and the engine shut off and wouldn't start again.
Next tour season I'm driving a boat instead!
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
@chumley If it hadn't been pouring rain I would at least have gone to see the results of this deer's poor decision-making. But I didn't. I got wet enough, even with raincoat on, checking the damage and setting out the three hazard triangles.
When it happened it was instantaneous--no time to brake. I was going about 50-55 in a signed 65 zone. The deer bounced off the front end with a loud "THUNK!" and did a sort of somersault, and may even have been able to run off a short distance. But, considering the deep dent in the radiator it probably didn't get far. However, it was not in the roadway. Go ahead and look, it's about mile 249, on the southwest side of the road. By now it has become aged venison...
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
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If it hadn't been pouring rain I would at least have gone to see the results of this deer's poor decision-making. But I didn't. I got wet enough, even with raincoat on, checking the damage and setting out the three hazard triangles.