I'm looking for some relatively mellow Kachina Peaks-area hikes, and I saw what looked like a decent loop on my map -- which is "Flagstaff Trails Map", Emmitt Barks Cartography, 7th Ed. Feb. 2016. The map shows a "Rocky Moto Trail" roughly parallel to part of Arizona Trail section 34a, and it says those 2 cross one another about a mile east of Snowbowl Rd, and are connected 3-4 miles east of that point by a half-mile segment of what looks like the "Moto Trail," running North&South. This connector section is about a half mile east of FR9002. But here on HAZ there's only one trail with "Moto" in its name, and it's called Upper Moto.
According to the Official Route shown here, Upper Moto is 1.74 miles long, does not connect with any other trails, and is not in the right place to be the Moto Trail I'm looking for. (My map shows the trailhead at the east end of Freidlein Prairie Road (FR522) NE of the Moto Trail I'm after, while the HAZ Official Route of the "Upper Moto" shows FR522 ending NW of that trail.)
Does someone know whether there are "Rocky Moto" and just plain "Moto" trails that are not covered by HAZ, at all?
I'm not GPS-literate, so replies that assume I'm conversant with GPS won't help. Other help would be appreciated!
Amy
Moto Trail - Can someone help clarify its route?
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Moto Trail - Can someone help clarify its route?
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Re: Moto Trail - Can someone help clarify its route?
There are a lot of trails in that area that were created for mountain biking -- and motorized dirt bikes. Perhaps check on a mtnbike site to see if that's what the "moto" trail is?
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Re: Moto Trail - Can someone help clarify its route?
this looks like what you're talking about:
https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/5147547
https://www.mtbproject.com/directory/80 ... ount-elden
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https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/5147547
https://www.mtbproject.com/directory/80 ... ount-elden
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Re: Moto Trail - Can someone help clarify its route?
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Yep - that's the shape I was looking for, all right! Thank you, and thanks @Chumley, as well.
I get enough close encounters with mtn bikes on the local mtns in PHX; don't need to get in their way up in the Kachina Peaks, as well, if I can help it! If Rocky Moto is meant for mtn bikes and even allows motorized bikes, it's not for me. Will look elsewhere.
Amy
EDIT: Wow - Now HAZ has an "official route" and page for Rocky Moto Trail. Does that happen automatically, just because I wrote the name of the trail in a Forum post?
Yep - that's the shape I was looking for, all right! Thank you, and thanks @Chumley, as well.
I get enough close encounters with mtn bikes on the local mtns in PHX; don't need to get in their way up in the Kachina Peaks, as well, if I can help it! If Rocky Moto is meant for mtn bikes and even allows motorized bikes, it's not for me. Will look elsewhere.
Amy
EDIT: Wow - Now HAZ has an "official route" and page for Rocky Moto Trail. Does that happen automatically, just because I wrote the name of the trail in a Forum post?
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Re: Moto Trail - Can someone help clarify its route?
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