JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
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JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Arizona native and all around cool dude DesertRoux (Ryan) is coming to visit us from his new home of Richmond, Virginia this December.
this hike is going to be a great one.. on trail, off trail, perfect campsite and awesome canyon hiking in Fish Creek. We are going to start this hike at the Tortilla Trailhead in the central Supes and use the JF trail to reach Tortilla Pass.. then make our way to Angel Basin and beyond a couple of miles to the intersection with the Frog Tanks trail. At this junction, we'll stay the night in a near-perfect camp spot surrounded by shade trees, a couple of flat spots for small tents, and several great trees for hanging!
On the second day we take 7 miles of Fish Creek (upper) canyon completely trail-less, lots of rock hopping and scrambling, and near the end of the hike closest to the bridge some serious scrambling over/on/around very large boulders. Some the size of a bus! We will end the hike at the Fish Creek Bridge on Apache Trail AZ88. A shuttle vehicle can be left here to get us up the hill the 2 miles back to Tortilla.
I did this trip back in November '08 and part of it just last month.. it is IMHO one of the nicest little loops in the Supes.
We'll head out for the trailhead around 7:30 am on Saturday the 5th, and return back home on Sunday the 6th.
see linked hikes for details, experience off trail and route finding in the Supes a must.
this hike is going to be a great one.. on trail, off trail, perfect campsite and awesome canyon hiking in Fish Creek. We are going to start this hike at the Tortilla Trailhead in the central Supes and use the JF trail to reach Tortilla Pass.. then make our way to Angel Basin and beyond a couple of miles to the intersection with the Frog Tanks trail. At this junction, we'll stay the night in a near-perfect camp spot surrounded by shade trees, a couple of flat spots for small tents, and several great trees for hanging!
On the second day we take 7 miles of Fish Creek (upper) canyon completely trail-less, lots of rock hopping and scrambling, and near the end of the hike closest to the bridge some serious scrambling over/on/around very large boulders. Some the size of a bus! We will end the hike at the Fish Creek Bridge on Apache Trail AZ88. A shuttle vehicle can be left here to get us up the hill the 2 miles back to Tortilla.
I did this trip back in November '08 and part of it just last month.. it is IMHO one of the nicest little loops in the Supes.
We'll head out for the trailhead around 7:30 am on Saturday the 5th, and return back home on Sunday the 6th.
see linked hikes for details, experience off trail and route finding in the Supes a must.
squirrel!
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
I'm getting excited about this trip. The Captain will definitely be present and accounted for!
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Yeah, I guess so. I'd rather not bring my 4wd if I can help it - since it's just me coming, it's cheaper to bring the lil' car!te-wa wrote:In response to writelots:
it'll be nice to have you. fish creek is a lot of fun, coming from Tookson, will we see you at the trailhead (main) parking lot? (the real t/h is 3 mi. beyond, with 4x4 mandatory for a short distance)
Also will be bringing my new toy - the Blackbird. Moahahahahaha
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Sure it would. It'll probably fit in your pack
Well - maybe my pack...


Well - maybe my pack...

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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Arghhhh. My wife just reminded me that we are flying to Houston to visit my Mom that weekend. Bummer! Not the visiting her part, just that I have to miss this great trip. 

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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Lame Drew. I was looking forward to hangin' with ya. I guess you will have to drag Mike out to VA so we can spend some time in the green tunnel. (Appalachian Trial)
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
I'm definitely sorry to miss you this trip Desertroux. Hanging on the AT would be very cool! Am looking forward to viewing the stories and pics from this trip. You folks have a blast.
Desertroux wrote:Lame Drew. I was looking forward to hangin' with ya. I guess you will have to drag Mike out to VA so we can spend some time in the green tunnel. (Appalachian Trial)
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Seriously, the trees will always be here. I am not the only one who has to visit.
Ahem, Mike, Ahem....

Ahem, Mike, Ahem....
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Don't talk about it. I would hate to jinx it.... 

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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
this trip is getting closer, and the
supes excitement bug is in the air...
im able to carry a few fools to the tortilla t/h but i think we'll need a shuttle to the fish creek bridge to make this trip even better...
im planning to make this trip easy, memorable and enjoyable for all of us.

im able to carry a few fools to the tortilla t/h but i think we'll need a shuttle to the fish creek bridge to make this trip even better...
im planning to make this trip easy, memorable and enjoyable for all of us.
squirrel!
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Hate to back out, but my preparation for my test that next Monday has not gone as well as I'd hoped. Need to stay home and keep my nose to the grindstone.
Have a happy hang for me!

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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
I forgot you guys had this one planned for the same day gpsjoe and I are planning to hike the JF Trail in from Tortilla TH to Tortilla Pass and back.. will look forward to see all of you on the way in Saturday morningte-wa wrote:We'll head out for the trailhead around 7:30 am on Saturday the 5th

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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Wow. You guys must be anxious to get shredded by catclaw. Twice.
It's pretty bad between Angel Basin and Tortilla pass. I'd be tempted to skip that part of the hike if I were you.

Grasshopper wrote:I forgot you guys had this one planned for the same day gpsjoe and I are planning to hike the JF Trail in from Tortilla TH to Tortilla Pass and back.. will look forward to see all of you on the way in Saturday morningte-wa wrote:We'll head out for the trailhead around 7:30 am on Saturday the 5th
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
A storm system is coming in Monday/Tuesday that hopefully doesn't arrive 'early' 

Yea, canyoneering is an extreme sport... EXTREMELY dramatic!!! =p
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
I just went through the catclaw between Angel Basin & Tortilla pass on the 22nd. It's mild by Supes standards. We can watch the forecast as the week progresses. It will change a few times by then.
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
"It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness"
Translation: Carry and use clippers when on the trail and improve it for those who follow. After all.... what's the rush?
Translation: Carry and use clippers when on the trail and improve it for those who follow. After all.... what's the rush?
"The censorship method ... is that of handing the job over to some frail and erring mortal man, and making him omnipotent on the assumption that his official status will make him infallible and omniscient."
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Payson weather is talking about storm coming in on Sat night....
Dawn
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
Good advice Kurt. Am rooting around the house for my clippers now ...
From Wally's report it sounds like there have been a few good samaritans out there since we did Goat Canyon in early Oct.
From Wally's report it sounds like there have been a few good samaritans out there since we did Goat Canyon in early Oct.
hikeaz wrote:"It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness"
Translation: Carry and use clippers when on the trail and improve it for those who follow. After all.... what's the rush?
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Re: JF/Fish Creek Loop DEC. 5&6th 2009
i think all of that catclaw ended up in Doug's legs. Thanks Doug!drewboy wrote:Good advice Kurt. Am rooting around the house for my clippers now ...
From Wally's report it sounds like there have been a few good samaritans out there since we did Goat Canyon in early Oct.

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