Red Creek Feb 21

BobP · Post by **BobP** » Feb 06 2009 5:26 pm

Anybody interested in doing this?

rushthezeppelin · Post by **rushthezeppelin** » Feb 06 2009 5:32 pm

Man, I'm trying to read the review of the hike, and whoever wrote it has absolutely horrid grammar.

JoelHazelton · Post by **JoelHazelton** » Feb 07 2009 1:28 am

rushthezeppelin wrote:Man, I'm trying to read the review of the hike, and whoever wrote it has absolutely horrid grammar.

Hahaha, after your comment I promptly went and read through the description because I'm a fellow grammar nazi... Not as bad as I expected. A little more punctuation in the first paragraph would have made it a smoother read, but in all it still beats the heck out of 98% of the internet's content.

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Feb 08 2009 8:24 am

I think you have to figure 2 hours of driving to get there (from Tempe). What time were you thinking of getting started?

BobP · Post by **BobP** » Feb 08 2009 9:33 am

I'm flexible in terms of start time. What ever makes sense. I'm up early anyways.

te_wa · Post by **te_wa** » Feb 09 2009 2:02 pm

if im pressed for time, id like to join. but i may have both days so an overnighter would then be in order. we shall see

BobP · Post by **BobP** » Feb 17 2009 9:01 am

Forecast for Sat is mostly sunny

with a high of 77. Is anyone in for this?

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Feb 17 2009 11:01 pm

I'm still very interested. I'd prefer leaving town around 8 or 9 am. How does that work with your plans?

BobP · Post by **BobP** » Feb 18 2009 6:56 am

That'll work. I figure its about 1:30-2:00 hours from my house depending on road conditions.

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Feb 22 2009 1:08 pm

OK, so a bit off-topic, but I thought this thread was the place to put this. We hiked here yesterday, and near the confluence of Red Creek and the Verde River, there was a sign and gate indicating entry into the Mazatzal Wilderness. I was surprised because I didn't think the wilderness ventured west of the Verde River. Sure enough, upon looking at the map ... it doesn't! In fact, it's not even close! So how is there a sign, and gate, WELDED closed, so far from an actual wilderness area? (Note, the gate actually prevents vehicles from leaving the river area, not the typical gate which prevents vehicles from getting close to the water. In this case, the road is in the creek, and leaving the creek is gated closed!)

Here's the map, with the gate circled in red, Gila/Yavapai county line highlighted, Wilderness boundary in orange, and Red Creek trail/4wd road in green.

Anyone?

Dschur · Post by **Dschur** » Feb 22 2009 1:54 pm

Looks like they have added some areas there are alot of the wilderness that is now on the west side of the verde per the national forest website..

joebartels · Post by **joebartels** » Feb 22 2009 2:00 pm

In response to chumley:
Perhaps they're trying to keep people from driving to the airstrip and flying into the wilderness

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Feb 22 2009 3:58 pm

Dschur wrote:Looks like they have added some areas there are alot of the wilderness that is now on the west side of the verde per the national forest website..

Interesting. My Topo! maps don't reflect the newer areas. I'll have to research that more. What's weird is that when adding to it, they kept the road down Red Creek open, which is a very strange and unusual move when it comes to creating wilderness areas in AZ.

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