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Tortilla Creek - Lower LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 18 2008
kanode
Hiking3.00 Miles 800 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   5 Hrs      0.60 mph
800 ft AEG
 
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This trip represents part of the exit route for Carlson's lower Tortilla Creek Loop hike #36. It starts at the saddle (Carlson's 14-C) overlooking Tortilla Creek and ends at the ex-bridge for the original Apache Trail (14-W) . The ex-bridge was replaced by a large fill at Mesquite Flat that shortens the Apache trail by about 2.3 mile.

The original Apache Trail route to the ex-bridge is shown on the Beartooth Map of the Superstitions and is driveable by high clearance vehicles. The worst section is the first 100 feet as you leave the paved road although there is a short rutted section farther in.

The point of this hike was to determine the time required to hike down from the saddle overlooking Tortilla Creek to the ex-bridge--we found it to be 2 hours. Carlson says that hiking up from Tortilla creek to the saddle, bushwhacking down to the creek, walking the old road, and walking back along the paved road to where you parked at a pull-off east of Tortilla flat is one to two hours shorter than hiking back along Tortilla Creek.

- I'd guess 45 minutes to climb from Tortilla Creek to the Saddle
- 2 hours from the Saddle to the ex-bridge
- 45 minutes (2.2 miles) from the ex-bridge back to the pull-off east of Tortilla Creek
So about 3.5 hours.

The exit route has a lot of rock hopping but nothing approaching the bouldering in Tortilla creek. The slope is steep, loose, and brushy.
There were a lot of paths (I assume game trails) that went across the slope but non that had much change in altitude.
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