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Trinity Canyon Complex - Grand Canyon - 2 members in 5 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Phantom/Crystal Loop, AZ 
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On 12/26/2023 – 1/1/2024, I completed the Phantom/Crystal Loop from George Steck's Grand Canyon Loop Hikes. It's a glorious loop covering a really interesting variety of terrain. Almost every mile was slower than I anticipated. Pay attention to the times Steck lists, not the distances you've measured on the map. Steck's times are stout!

12/26: down the South Kaibab to Bright Angel Campground.
12/27: Bright Angel Campground to Hippie Camp. Checked in with a ranger about the Redwall route in Upper Phantom. He reassured me that "it's a thing people do," although he didn't think anyone had been there in a while. I then set off up to Utah Flats, descended into upper Phantom, and proceeded up to Hippie Camp. The Utah Flats route is a well-marked use trail. Travel in Phantom is generally easy and pleasant, with minimal brush. There was tons of water in Phantom up to Haunted Canyon, although it petered out as I approached Hippie Camp. Found a light trickle a hundred yards below Hippie Camp.
12/28: over Shiva Saddle via the "Shiva Exit" route to just above Dragon Spring. From Hippie Camp to Shiva Saddle took me 6 hours -- almost certainly the slowest terrain I've ever encountered (maybe 3 hours per mile). There are some good cairns marking the ascent up the talus pile to the bottom of the Redwall climb, but no clear indication of where to start climbing. The climb itself is about ~100 ft of tough class 4, maybe low class 5 climbing. The rock is solid, and with careful scouting, it's possible to find a route that doesn't involve technical climbing moves. But the exposure is terrible, the route is not obvious, and it feels more like free-soloing than scrambling. I inched through with a mindset of grim concentration. There's webbing at the top, and perhaps a safer way through would be to ascend with a rope but no pack, rappel down, and retrieve your pack and reascend using the rope. The traverse ledge at the top is wide and no problem, except for the one infamous gap. I got around the gap by climbing up and around; not hard, but again the exposure is serious. The route through the Supai involves only a little climbing (just a few scrambling moves), but is loose, brushy, and very very slow. There's a good cairn indicating the top of the initial climbing; from there on, just contour over to the ascent ravine under the saddle. Descending from the saddle, there are good cairns marking the steep descent into the Dragon drainage. I camped at some potholes just above the Tapeats chockstone.
12/29: from above Dragon spring to the Tonto east of Crystal creek. First step was to get up and around the chockstone; some cairns help identify the route. The spring was gushing. The descent from there to the river is fast and easy, although it's quite a long way. From the river, the climb up to the Tonto is steep and slow, but non-technical, and the gap to aim for is obvious. I found a nice camp along a dry creek bed a little ways east of where I joined the Tonto. The Tonto offers many dry camping opportunities for the solo hiker who isn't pitching a tent.
12/30: past 94-mile canyon, back up to the Tonto. A good cairn marks the entrance to 94-mile canyon (I didn't investigate the more direct route through the Tapeats that Steck mentions). It's a steep and loose descent into the canyon, but there's no exposure. The canyon floor was an easy stroll except for one dryfall that requires one quick class 3 move. I loaded up with water at the river (8 liters) to prepare for a dry camp. The river was running like chocolate milk. Steck's instructions about reascending to the Tonto are brief, and the ascent looks worrisome from afar, but it's really no problem. Ascend from the river to the base of the Tapeats cliffs, then follow a sheep trail that is right under the cliffs; this leads quickly to the exit ravine. I saw the chimney Bob Bordasch mentions, and it looks OK, but it isn't necessary; the sheep trail is fast and easy. There's a Puebloan structure of some sort (a granary? or a residence?) in the Tapeats. Found another good site on the Tonto, and let my water sit over night with alum to clear up.
12/31: to Utah flats. Around the Tonto to Trinity. Was lucky to find a nice pothole in Trinity, where I tanked up again. This enabled another dry camp; otherwise, I was planning on returning to upper Phantom. There's a cairned deer/use trail in the cliffs above Trinity leading to the Cheops/Isis saddle. I lost it for a while, but it seemed to reappear as I approached the saddle. Maybe it continues throughout? Travel was certainly much easier on the trail than off it, so it's probably worth trying to follow.
1/1: down to Bright Angel Campground, where I saw the first people I'd seen since I left the campground five days earlier. Then turned on my "burger beacon" and rocketed up the South Kaibab. Back in time for lunch!
 
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Ninety Four Mile Canyon - Grand Canyon, AZ 
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I hope everyone knows where Utah Flats is...if you don't you might want to look that up really quick.

Doug Nering and I jogged down South Kaibab with 4 or 5 days worth of gear and food. We started out light on water and planned to fill up at Phantom Ranch.

Once at PR we watered up with 5L and 6L then immediately headed up to Utah Flats. We'd gotten a late start (10am!) and hit the "flattest of the flats" around 3pm.
Our plan was to camp night 1 on the Isis-Cheops Saddle. So we did.

We contemplated following the west face of Cheops from the saddle just for fun but ran out of light after setting up cowboy camps on the saddle. It was very windy. I had 4G and texted my mom a blurry pic of the village lights from there.

Next morning we broke down and headed west down a very obvious slope but stayed below the Redwall Limestone and above the Supergroup layers.
This shelf will take you west very quickly if you don't mind some cactus.

After a while Doug pointed out we were above 91 mile canyon and there apparently is a route down somewhere in there, we didn't try it. Minutes later we were dancing down a slope into an East arm of Trinity Canyon.
It was here we planned on another water fill up, it was hot already and we opted to nap in the shade then boogie on west.

the water in Trinity creek is very salty, much like Salt Creek in the Little.Colorado River or the LCR itself, saltie and unpalatable. We tried to cover it up but no luck. We saved it to boil and cook with that night. Bleh!

We crossed through Trinity slightly up canyon in a really nice Tapeats break that had the occasional secret cairn.
Once we reached the Tonto Platform again we headed south up and down up and down winding in and out of shallow bays full of cactus...

We found an old cowboy camp on the Tonto Platform (actually it was a flat spot in the Muav layer but whatever). If you check out the white and blue Grand Canyon Sky Terrain map find Tower of Set and just south east of Set is an unnamed high point labeled 5288. Our flat cowboy camp is being pointed to by the SE corner of that triangle. It's pretty cool really.
This was night 2 that we spent on the Muav spot. The gnats were everywhere except on that spot...very strange. I spent sunset pulling cactus from my feet and legs and left hand.

Day 3 we headed to the rim of the Tonto Platform in search of the old abandoned rusty stuff from those crazy cats who wanted to pulled a tram across the river at this level! We followed the rim until we realized we should probably hit the river soon. It never ceases to amaze how fast your water can disappear out there.

Look at your sky terrain map again, you can see the canyon below Tower of Set that feeds into the river above Granite Rapid, that was fun to pass through! You end up in the Tapeats there and there is a 1000ft drop fom there down! I may have peed off that...

The water in that canyon was in green pockets but scoopable we ditched the last of our Trinity salt water for green puddle water.

Climbing out from this canyon was a cake walk similar to Clear Creek amphitheatres.

Just west of there is a very small but obvious break down to river level.

The Tapeats is very straightforward and once you reach the Great Unconformity you might be rewarded with something Beautiful. Once you reach the floor you follow a very well travelled critter path west and right to the beach at 94 mile canyon. Once you're at 94 mi Canyon you can easily travel up Cyn a ways to another very obvious break in the Tapeats, from there one may head West right down to Crystal Rapid!

We spent night 3 here at 94 Mile Canyon beach without any exciting events.
The next morning, day 4, we explored up canyon and by 2pm saw no sign of Jamie, we were going to surprise him in the middle of nowhere with beer. Doug headed back the way we came and camped one more night out near Trinity.

I was afraid of camping alone at 94 and by 4pm still no Jamie so I hitched a ride across the river on a motor rig and booked it out Hermit Trail.
I slept that night 4 on a friend's floor and at sunrise I boogied down Bright Angel Trail to wait in the creek (with beer) for both Doug and Jamie.

Doug was quite surprised when I waved as he was coming down Utah Flats Route haha he couldn't imagine how I'd gotten ahead of him! Tricksy ;)

This was a fun trip and can easily be done in a shorter amount of time. Doug and I both had plenty of time to spare and went in search of exciting things out there in desert. Have fun!!

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7 Days Wandering Around in the Big Ditch, AZ 
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Bright Angel to Indian Garden - Plateau Point - Tonto Trail from Indian Garden to Cremation - to South Kaibob Trail and down to Phantom - Utah Flats - Haunted Canyon - Upper Phantom - Climbing Exit to Isis-Shiva - Down Trinity - Trinity West Arm - Trinity to Isis-Cheops - Utah Flats to Phantom - out Bright Angel Trail.

Since almost all of these trails are not on HAZ yet, I will probably end up writing a few pages on some of these areas. It was an interesting way to spend 7 days, in which I went 5 days without seeing a soul. Some parts were better than expected, others went as planned, and some were a bit of a let down. But to get away from everything for a week and not have to think about much other than the basics was a refresher I needed.

This trip is fairly remote and a few parts of this trip are a bit dangerous. I'd recommend that this type of trip only be considered by people who have a good deal of experience under their belt. This covers about all terrain between class 1 and class 4 YDS.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Burro Spring Dripping Dripping
Swampy area. There was water, but I wouldn't call it filterable.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Haunted Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
I estimated 4800 gpm, the flow was incredible and powerful from where it emerged. Even at its very source, it was a bit turbid, probably because the flow was so powerful.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Hippie Spring North Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Seeping out from under a rock to the north of the creek, I'd estimate about 2 gpm.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Hippie Spring South Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Wow, this spring rivals fossil creek, it was pumping out crystal clear, great tasting water at a thousand gpm.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Pipe Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Creek flowing @ Tonto intersection about a 10 gpm

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Trinity Seep Quart per minute Quart per minute
Water was seeping out at a decent rate in several spots here, but it tasted awful even though it was very clear and sand filtered. I'd suggest you bring some type of gatorade mix or something similar to mask the taste.
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