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Chasm Creek Trail #164 - 2 members in 4 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Feb 24 2024
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40 male
 Joined Mar 01 2018
 Chandler, AZ
Chasm Creek Trail #164Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking14.66 Miles 3,491 AEG
Hiking14.66 Miles   8 Hrs   32 Mns   1.88 mph
3,491 ft AEG      43 Mns Break
 
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We had other plans in the Camp Verde area that fell though, and this ended up as the backup plan almost by default since I happened to have the route downloaded and we were nearby. I'd read almost nothing about the trail, but it was my first time in the Cedar Bench Wilderness, so it would be a new area.

We parked just off FR 574, though the road was good enough that driving a few more tenths of a mile to the east Chasm Creek Trailhead would've been fine. The trail drops down to the creek quickly and passes some interesting narrows with a series of pools before starting a long, steady climb on a trail that had Y-Bar vibes with the rocky tread. I went in without any expectations, but I was surprised that the first few miles of trail were well-cairned and that it was hardly overgrown given the apparent lack of traffic, with one triplog from 8 years ago the only one since the first triplogs from Joe & The Eagle 11+ years ago.

We started to encounter a few patches of snow around 5,500' before the route topped out a little over 5,700', then the route became a little tougher to follow as it gradually lost elevation. We had to push through brush in a few places to get back on the trail, but the final stretch near Horner Mountain followed a 4x4 road that was easy to follow.

The Horner Cabin ruins looked a lot more like native ruins than a cabin. There was no foundation or any sign of modern building of any kind, just stacked rocks, so if that was modern, I wasn't sure what I was looking at. The topo map just says "Ruins", but that's a strange place for a native structure. I continued a little farther to the west trailhead to check that out before I turned around. Very little to see there--just a few posts with missing signs. If I'd had more time, I might've gone up to the top of Horner Mountain.

On the hike out, I went up to Table Mountain since it wasn't far off the trail. Generally, table-shaped mountains don't offer great views, and this was no exception :). With lots of trees and a flat top, views were limited, and I didn't see anything interesting up there. Expectations were low, though, since the "peak" is at least 600 feet lower than the high point on the trail.

I caught up to TboneKathy and we finished off the hike with a lot of downhill. The best views of the day were looking north toward Sedona and the snowy San Francisco Peaks, so that was a nice backdrop for most most of the return trip. This wasn't a trail I'd normally choose as a plan A, but it was a pleasant day with nice scenery and plenty of solitude--we didn't see anyone all day, just a pair of deer. On the drive home, we had the full weekend I-17 experience and got caught in a long delay because of an accident near Black Canyon City...1-for-1 so far this year on I-17.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Horner Cabin Spring Dripping Dripping
Didn't see any obvious water at the source, but there's a metal basin ~0.1-mile east of the spring that's fed from a black pipe (presumably from the spring). The basin was overflowing with a steady trickle from the pipe.

 
Feb 18 2016
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 Joined Jan 30 2004
 Cottonwood, AZ
Chasm Creek Trail #164Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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dgroatTriplogs 2
Hiking4.50 Miles 2,469 AEG
Hiking4.50 Miles   5 Hrs   20 Mns   0.84 mph
2,469 ft AEG
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Wow. This was an old-fashioned butt kicker. After a short drop into the creek bed and a short trip upstream to the beginning of the narrows, the trail climbs STEEPLY up the left hand slope. The trail is loose, rocky and STEEP. It climbs to a couple different saddles each one seeming like you're getting somewhere, only to find yourself staring up at another range of hills. After crossing over into the Cedar Bench Wilderness the trail climbs along a large interior canyon. This is the easiest part of the trip. It too eventually climbs to a windy saddle where you will see yet another high mountain looming above you. Relax, this is the last one. From here the trail gets rather faint but, unlike, other trails in the area, I was able to stay on it without backtracking and scouting. Eventually it climbs to another saddle that is heavily grazed and the trail begins to slope down and you get a glimpse of the mountain ranges beyond. This was my turnaround point.

The trail is difficult and obviously seldom travelled. It reminded me of old Arizona hiking--steep, rough, lonesome and wild. Definitely worth the effort.
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Chasm Creek Daily Double, AZ 
Chasm Creek Daily Double, AZ
 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking19.48 Miles 4,443 AEG
Hiking19.48 Miles   11 Hrs   17 Mns   2.15 mph
4,443 ft AEG   2 Hrs   13 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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We parked just off of 574 and hiked to the official TH for Chasm Creek #164. If you don't mind a little pin stripping, you can drive the 1/4 mile to to the TH. This hike drops into Chasm Creek and stays in the creek for just a 100 yards or so, before it makes the climb to the high point of this hike, almost 2300' above. But it's a pretty area so take the time to enjoy it.

Making the climb to the high point more than 3 miles ahead, the views behind are pretty darn good. We hit this hike about perfect between the weather and the colors. Table Mountain is the prominent feature as you make the climb up. The saddle for this peak/butte had some incredible views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBS2qEhCO3U&feature=autoplay&list=UUcAm2CHlpbDrwYRrjYvcHUA&playnext=1

At the high point, Joe had visions of $20's in his head, but I reminded him Denny was not around to collect from. To this point the trail was no problem to follow. A mile west of the high point, the trail disappeared. The Topo showed the track was down in the creek bed, so once we cliffed out, we scrambled down to the Creek Bed. (It's not in the creek bed). We followed the creek for .2 of a mile then hopped out to once again find the trail to the North.
from here it was on two track. We checked out the "Ruins" indicated on the TOPO and they appeared to be that of an old cabin. (Horner Cabin, to match up w/ the nearby Horner Cabin Spring?)

On the way back we stayed out of the creek and found the actual trail for awhile again before we lost it again. Our GPS's got us back to where we had previously lost the trail.

Part two of this hike was to take us to the East of where we parked, down a little used Dripping Springs trail and into Chasm Creek drainage. We were on the hunt for some ruins, but we were running out of light. I took us to where I had no doubt they were... Nope.. We scanned the hillsides....Nope. Joe spots something in the distance. I took a picture, zoomed in, and it was a 40' tall ladder structure. We took a quick spin out to the Verde River to check it out. What a beautiful peaceful river.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLf0r9R-gE&list=UUcAm2CHlpbDrwYRrjYvcHUA&index=1&feature=plcp


We went back to where we spotted the ladder and climbed up to check it out. We hoped to either find some ruins or at least gain a vantage point to see something. The ladder is probably 50 years old and rotted beyond use. It appears it was put there for easy access from the top of the Mesa to the river.

Back down the side of the incline, to the river and we climbed up to the area known as the Viewpoint on the short trail #16. There are two interesting features next to the Verde in this area. First was the Verde River Gauge station and the second, was the remains of an old cable basket that transported people over the river.

This was another really nice hike into an area that few travel.
 Fauna
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[ checklist ]  Cow
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[ checklist ]  Chasm Creek  Table Mountain
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Autumn Foliage Observation Light

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Chasm Creek Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
I did not witness the source, but the area on the trail that goes through the creek bed has clear flowing water.

dry Horner Cabin Spring Dry Dry
Found the Black pipe that led to a metal tank that was empty. Traced the pipe back towards the source and found no spring.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Horner Mountain Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
A little puddle at the bottom
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Chasm Creek Daily Double, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking19.48 Miles 4,443 AEG
Hiking19.48 Miles   11 Hrs   17 Mns   2.15 mph
4,443 ft AEG   2 Hrs   13 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
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#164 turned out better than anticipated. With perfect temps and autumn foliage it's a solid 4 out of 5 IMO (for the east end up to the rim). For ascending the Verde Rim this one puts Oxbow Trail #163 and Cold Water Trail #27 to shame. Those are pasture walks, this is a hike in the mountains. If you are looking for solitude you will likely find it. Lack of established looping options are a shame and likely keep visitation low.

The second part of our adventure was #508 then down Chasm Creek proper, skirt the Verde River then up #16 and back. Headlamps for the last couple miles.
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[ checklist ]  Chasm Creek  Hackberry Mountain
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