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Willow Spring Trail #244 - Mazatzal - 4 members in 5 triplogs have rated this an average 3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jan 18 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Run/Jog23.82 Miles 4,600 AEG
Run/Jog23.82 Miles   7 Hrs   22 Mns   3.25 mph
4,600 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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1st trip
Decided to venture out into the Mazatzals from the Verde River side. Fun 2.5-3 hour drive there, then a 10am start. The flat part of Dutchman Grave trail is straighforward and easy. Past the springs, route got more overgrown. Not terribly hard to follow in most areas, but scratchy.

Got pretty old on the way down Willow Springs Trail when I kicked a prickly pear and had to remove a spine from my big toe. They're always harder to take out than they are to put in.

Took the spur down to Willow Spring to refill water. Couple of big pools with some flow underneath a bunch of leaves. Nice spot.

Once in the flat area, it was actually possible to run again. Only saw one person all day, a bow hunter up near Mountain Spring.

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Trickle near trail crossing, might be better farther down.

dry Horse Creek Dry Dry
Only water is at Willow Spring and below Mountain Spring

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Didn't find the actual spring, but could hear water.

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Tank is full, but little if any flow. More water in the creek below the spring.

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Lots of discharge into the Verde River. Dry at creek crossings in the upper forks.


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Jun 09 2018
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 Joined Dec 09 2014
 Gilbert, AZ
Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 09 2018
jacobemerickTriplogs 232
Hiking24.13 Miles 4,961 AEG
Hiking24.13 Miles   11 Hrs   13 Mns   2.63 mph
4,961 ft AEG   2 Hrs   3 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Drove up the night before with sister and her dogs. Half hour of daylight left when we got there, enough time to setup camp and check out the location of the hot spring. Used hammock w/ underquilt and was ridiculously comfortable. Quiet night except for some very curious and brave coatis.

Dutchman Grave #22
Hiked the first four miles by headlamp and moon-sliver and it was so easy. I was a little nervous, doing a new trail in the remote western Mazzies in the dark, but it's well-cairned and the tread is easy to follow. Spent a little bit of time hunting around by the HK Ranch turn-off. There's a yuge cairn marking the "junction" and nothing else, no tread or cairns heading down to Sycamore Creek. Further exploration will have to wait for daylight. Lots of morning birds down there. Temps were warm before the sunrise and that first healthy climb worked up an annoying sweat. Trotting into the valley on the other side and felt a significant, and welcome, temperature drop.

Dutchman Grave Spring area is beautiful. Both springs had (some) water, the campsites were tempting, and the trees were large and shade-y. Definitely one of the more appealing locations in the western Mazzies. Then there's the climb on the other side. After a well-marked climb the trail dances along the side of 4165' and dozens of game trails start to confuse the route. There aren't a lot of cairns on this section, either. It clears up near the 3811' saddle.

This section of the trail was fantastic. The views of Cypress Butte, Midnight Mesa, and the deep cut of Granite Basin feeding into Sycamore Creek were ridiculous. There are even a handful of junipers spared from the fire, some of them right along the path! Tread was great and cairns were large. The last climb was tough, mostly because it was after eight by then and the temps were moving further into furnace realm. The switchbacked grade was reasonable. Trotting into Mountain Spring felt like coming home.

Willow Spring #223
Easy going until the trail zips up the side of 5163'. My legs were promised no more uphill. Trail was easy enough to follow, red rock steps and cairns, reminded me a lot of 6351' further up the trail. Heh, even the digits are the same! Anyways, the trail drops sharp on the other side, switchbacks and ridges, big views and occasional trees. Took a quick trip down to Willow Spring along #244. There are at least a dozen trails leading down to the spring, only one w/ a few cairns. Spring itself is beautiful, much cleaner water than Mountain Spring.

The next few miles were very pretty, with some of the descent through a well-vegetated drainage. There was a slight breeze picking up to help deal with the temps. After the drainage things got progressively hotter and more boring. For the last six miles even the breeze turned against me, feeling more like the rush of hot air from an open stove than anything refreshing like it did in the hills. Trail felt slightly harder to track in the flatland, tread fading away and brush hiding the cairns, and all the little hills ahead blended together. Reached a busy Sheep Bridge after two and trotted over the bridge and through the throngs to the waiting cooler.

Mazatzal Miles: 220/275 (80%)

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Several medium-sized pools. Water had an ugly slick on it.

dry Horse Creek Dry Dry

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Full, steadily splashing out of the overflow. Lukewarm and clean.

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There were a few holes that you could squeeze a cup in. Had to hunt to find them.

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Cement trough was 3/4 full of green, stagnant water. Taste was hard to get past.

dry Sycamore Creek Dry Dry


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Several pools trickling into each other. Water was clear and tasted great. Lots of water bugs, bees, wasps, and hawks to share the space with.
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Dec 27 2017
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 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Willow Springs Trail via Sheep Bridge, AZ 
Willow Springs Trail via Sheep Bridge, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Dec 27 2017
BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Backpack30.47 Miles 7,691 AEG
Backpack30.47 Miles4 Days         
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1st trip
Another recon for Shawn this time on Willow Springs Trail from Sheep Bridge on 4 day backpack. One of the Arizona Trail volunteers Roger was kind enough to give me an early morning ride out to Sheep Bridge. The timing worked out great arriving around 715am.

Day 1 started hiking around 730 across Sheep Bridge and up Willow Springs Trail which is in great shape on the desert section. Made a few side trips to a cluster of Cottonwoods looking for water. Found a few small pools and good to know for future reference. The first 7.5 miles to Willow Springs turn off was good trail and went relatively fast. Arriving at Willow Springs turn off it’s about ¼ mile down to the springs which was full of water and really nice spot to take a break. After the break headed back up to the junction and continued on Willow Springs trail to Mountain Spring the camp spot for the night and about 10 miles from the start. Again good trail to Mountain Spring and great location to call it a night with good water and large oak trees to camp under.

Day 2 after comfortable night camping at Mountain Spring continued on Willow Springs trail which is not as good shape as the previous 10 miles. However there are large cairns some up to 4 feet high making it easier to follow the trail. About 1.5 miles from Mountain Spring is the Lost Spring turn off with a sign. There is an old trail still visible and followed it the ¼ mile to Lost Spring. The whole area was heavily damaged in the Willow Fire but there was still water at the spring. Unfortunately cows or wildlife have fouled the spring so much that I would be hesitant to filter unless absolutely necessary. After checking out the spring continued up Willow Springs trail which deteriorated on a saddle just past Lost Spring. From the saddle it traverses over to the Midnight Mesa turn off and was in rough shape in spots but still no problem following. However at the Midnight Mesa junction the trail disappears and there was a sign post but no sign. I tried to follow the track for the trail but would see it intermittently and most of the time would end up pushing through manzanita. The last ½ mile to camp for the night was side slope and very brushy down to a drainage. In previous years there was water in the drainage but with how dry it’s been I wasn’t counting on this time. Went downstream about ¾ mile and found nothing before turning around. Fortunately I filtered the max amount at Mountain Spring in case the drainage was dry. Another good night of camping this remote spot of the Mazzies.

Day 3 started just trying to find any signs of trail. There is also a 1000 foot climb out of the drainage but after searching the area was able to find some old cairns and tread. Despite thick brush I was able to follow trail for the first mile but after that it was another side slope and the trail disappeared. This section was less than a mile but took over an hour. After that it gets easier for the next mile as the track follows a ridge with an occasional cairn or tread on the ridge. Unfortunately the worst part of the trail was the last mile to Mazatzal Divide trail. Very slowing going with thick manzanita, scrub oak and other assorted obstacles taking about hour and a half to fight through to real trail. Took over 5 hours to hike entire 3.5 miles so I was relieved to reach Mazatzal Divide and the Park which would be camp for the night. Also ran out of water in the last half mile of fighting the brush so priority was to bushwhack over to Pete’s Pond for water. Even though everything else was bone dry the trusty Pete’s Pond had water. It was somewhat green but I was in no condition to be picky. Filtered 5 liters and headed back to the Park and another great spot to camp for the night.

Day 4 just needed to hike out North Peak Trail to Mineral Springs trailhead. The first ½ mile is still in rough shape but had no problem following thanks to some well placed cairns. After the first mile the condition improves significantly and seems like some nice work has been done since last time I hiked this trail about year and a half ago. With good trail I made it down to the trailhead by 1pm and my ride Roger waiting to pick me up. Thanks to Roger and Shawn for setting up and providing the transportation!

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small pools but had been fouled by either cows or wildlife. Hesitant to filter unless necessary

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plenty of clear water and pools next to the trail

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good water source with full concrete spring box

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it's been very dry so this reliable pool was a bit green but still decent water source

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great water source. No problem at this spring year round
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Mar 04 2017
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Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 04 2017
FOTGTriplogs 1,052
Backpack23.92 Miles 4,856 AEG
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1st trip
I could not make up my mind this weekend on something to do and was all over the place when this backpacking idea popped into my conscience, as a lighter alternative to the Midnight Mesa Loop, which had been on my to do list for a long time. I got some last minute details from Joe, which included a good review of Dutchman Grave Trail, and an assurance that I could not go wrong with the Western Mazzies this time of year.

Joe was definitely right, the western Mazzies are a special place right now. One could get away with charging admission to the Dutchman Grave Trail right now; perhaps the desert at its finest and with the rugged ridgeline of the Mazzies as a backdrop, hard to beat. Similarly, the trail itself was in pretty good shape too. There are some faint areas and a few areas where a second look may be necessary, however, it is generally pretty easy to follow and marked well with some very tall and well constructed cairns. The final stretch into Mountain Spring is a little strenuous, but very scenic, maybe one of the nicer stretches of trail in the entire wilderness in my opinion. The strenuous part was the 670 feet climb from mile 11-12 that just seems to come out of nowhere, just when you think you are almost to Mountain Spring, oh if only we hiked in the manner the crow flied, sigh. Mountain Spring was an excellent spot to camp and there was plenty of water in the cement trough and adjacent creek bed. I enjoyed a nice fire and a perfect night for sleeping.

The hike out on Sunday went pretty quick and I was back to the TH in less than five hours. I made a detour down Willow Springs Trail #244 to Willow Spring on the way out and was very impressed by the area. It may be one of the nicest destinations in the Mazzies right now. The creek is flowing nicely through there right now and there are a few nice cascades and swimming holes in the spring area. The trailhead area was bustling when I got there, but I saw nobody on the trails all weekend. A really awesome area and I left feeling very satisfied with my hastily planned venture into the western Mazzies. In fact, I would not mind returning for a multiple day and night trip to do some more exploring of those trails and areas in the interior I still need to get to, one of my more memorable Mazatzal destinations. Thanks for the last minute beta and good call @joebartels.
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More significant on the drive in, as large swaths of yellow have taken over many of the hills on the way to the TH, but some pretty good action along some sections of Willow Springs Trail too...

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 Scottsdale, AZ
Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 05 2007
mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
Backpack22.80 Miles 2,930 AEG
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Day 1
We took Willow Springs trail to, you guessed it, Willow Spring. I guess the Willow fire started somewhere near here. :(

Day 2
Short day. We continued along WS to Mountain Spring. We thought we had stumbled into a large work crew and so we camped downstream from them. They had a large canvas tent with tables and then about 10 or more dome tents scattered around. :o We assumed they were out working and would be back soon but we never saw or heard anybody so we never found out what the story was.
(Update: Next time back here in Nov 2010 there was no sign of any of the gear.)

We camped at a small clearing perhaps 100 yards down from the spring and there was more bear scat than I have ever seen in one place - although it wasn't recent... :scared:

Day3
We took Dutchman Grave trail to Dutchman Grave Spring. Saw 2 deer on the opposite of a canyon.

Day4
Easy hike out to Sheep Bridge. Saw 2 javelina on the drive out.
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