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Knagge Trail #18 - 2 members in 13 triplogs have rated this an average 3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 27 2024
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Incinerator Ridge Knagge Trail, AZ 
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markthurman53Triplogs 866
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Drove up to Mount Lemmon to the Incinerator Ridge Trail and Hiked down to just a little past the San Pedro Vista. We turned around when our GPS's indicated 2 miles. Headed back the way we came to the Knagge Trail. Headed down the Knagge to the saddle about .7 miles in and turned around. Headed back up the Knagge and took the Kellogg Mountain Trail to the Butterfly Trail and returned to our start point. Started at about 0700 to overcast skies. We headed south along Incinerator Ridge, fairly easy walking for the first half mile then the trail starts it'd descent down to the San Pedro Overlook. Easy trail to follow but does have a lot of stair stepping as you descend.

On the return hike we took the Knagge Trail, I had tried this a few years back and didn't find any sign of it but this time we managed to find traces of it. Followed it down to the small saddle about .7 miles down where we lost it. It seems the trail switch backs down the south side of that saddle. Will have to do this again when we have more time to search out the trail, would at least like to get to the remains of the Knagge Cabin. Ate lunch at the saddle and returned the way we came. The GPS track on our return trip pretty much sticks to the trail. Red flags were placed along the trail and that helped us when we weren't sure about the route. The trail is covered with brush and dead fall that also helped obscure the trail.

Once back on the Incinerator Ridge Trail we took the Kellogg Mountain Trail to the Butterfly Trail and returned. No one on the trail all day with the exception of a couple camping we saw in the early morning along the ridge. Cloud cover for most of the day kept things pleasant. No water anywhere along the trail but then there were no stream crossings on this hike.
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Oct 22 2023
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42 male
 Joined Nov 30 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Knagge Trail #18Tucson, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
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Trail work day, mostly brushing on treadwork on the upper part of Knagge trail. Restored the original alignment through a ~300 foot stretch, which had been rerouted to go straight down the ridge, so now that stretch is a little less steep. Now you can get down to a stand of unburned fir trees without much trouble!
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Jul 10 2016
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 Tucson, AZ
Knagge Trail #18Tucson, AZ
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MSimmonsTriplogs 62
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Squeezed in one last Lemmon ramble before hitting the road on Tuesday to meet @jrousoshammond in Colorado :y:

Took the Knagge Trail down past the old cabin junk (that's all it was I'm afraid) to a wooded ridge about two miles out. It was a tough and variegated little hike, with nice views of the San Pedro Basin and Green Mountain. The trail was easy enough to follow as far as that wooded ridge, but I lost it around there and turned back. Before heading back to the car I took Incinerator Ridge out to Barnum Rock. Everything along the ridge, near and far, was beautiful in the bright, clear light of early evening.
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Mar 12 2014
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Knagge Trail #18Tucson, AZ
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camilesTriplogs 108
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For years I have looked down into the Peck Basin area and wondered about what it was like - I suppose the smartest way to explore the area would have been via the Davis Spring Trailhead on the north side of the range - but it seemed much more interesting to get there 'in the spirit of' the Knagge Trail!

I was dropped off at the bottom of the Incinerator Ridge Road - up the road, short section of Incinerator Ridge and then down the Knagge trail. The plants that were overgrowing the trail late last summer were largely brown and flat now and the trail was easier to follow.

At the end of the current existing trail I followed cairns along the ridge - but this trip I didn't waste any time trying to find the old trail, just looked for the easiest way down the ridge. As on previous trips the walking alternated between super easy grassy sections and never too terrible brush puzzles.

Soon enough I was down into the South Fork of Edgar Canyon - the flowing water was amazing! Followed the canyon down - I believe I stumbled across the shelter mentioned in the Cowgill and Glendening Guide - around a few obstacles and eventually over a ridge in the Araster Spring canyon (note the naming is a little confusing - the Cowgill/Glendening Guide seems to call the canyon with Pictograph and Araster Springs Edgar Canyon - but the USGS 7.5' map labels Edgar one Canyon south...).

The Peck Basin and Araster Spring area were fun to see - but the have been well used by the local cattle making the area just a bit less attractive than I imagined - don't get me wrong, not as if there are 100s of cows in the area, but enough to leave alot of dung, make faint trails all over the place and trample thru quite a few areas.

I took the hillside and ridges and looped back towards Edgar, by sheer luck ending up at the Davis Spring and Knagge Trail junction sign! Decided to try camping up on the point above and ended up camping near Point 4863 - great views!

Roughly re-traced my steps back up - did go a little further up the South Fork of Edgar, even following a worn track and big cairns for a few minutes - quite a climb back to get picked up!

Not sure I would repeat this exact trip again - interesting but I think that the real gem in the area was South Edgar, worth more exploration I think - hard to forget the rushing crystal clear water!

Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmiles/sets/72157642398825325/
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Oct 13 2013
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 Tucson, AZ
Knagge Trail #18Tucson, AZ
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brancryTriplogs 1
Hiking5.80 Miles 1,450 AEG
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We tried to go to the Knagge Trail today. We started down the trail and then lost the trail about 30 minutes in. We turned around and ended up doing the Incenerator Trail. Would love to go down the Knagge trail to find the Knagge cabin and Knagge mine. Does anyone know how to get there? Suggestions?
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Sep 14 2013
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camilesTriplogs 108
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After several visits to the current end of the obvious trail (2+ miles down below the cabin) it was time to brave the brush and look for more of the trail. Armed with GPS/Maps I thought for sure I could criss cross the trail as currently shown on the map and at some point pick up a faint track... But I didn't find any sign of the trail as drawn on the map!

There were several spots I thought would be a good chance of picking up a trace of the trail, but I had 0 luck... The top of the ridge above where the trail is currently marked is pretty decent walking - next time I won't bother trying to find the old trail (which I think will make the hike much nicer!) and walk the ridge instead. I managed to make it down to what I believe Cowgill/Glendening refer to as the South Fork of Edgar Canyon before I ran out of time.

It would be great if I was wrong/confused and a decent faint track still exists - but I have a feeling that the lower sections of this trail have been completely obscured - kind of amazing and inspiring that a trail can disappear. Looking forward to making it down to Peck Basin in an off-trail trip in a route that follows the spirit of the Knagge Trail one day!

Best wildlife of the day had to be a covey of Montezuma Quail! Only the 2nd time I have seen one.

I am curious about the earlier path of the Knagge Trail that Cowgill/Glendening mention in their hiking guide - has anyone seen a map of the previous version of the trail? Might be interesting to follow...

Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmiles/set ... 541249915/
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Jun 30 2013
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kmurph38Triplogs 3
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I maintain this trail. As of the end of June 2013 the trail has been cleared, tread repaired in some places and easy to follow for the entire 2 miles when it dead ends. The trail is marked with trail tape in places and rock cairns. The route to the Davis Spring trail with which it once connected has yet to be found. There is no reliable water other than during monsoon season or late winter snow melt runoff. At other times there may be a small pool or two below the cabin site - use a filter. Easy hike going down, strenuous climbing back out.
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Jul 10 2012
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camilesTriplogs 108
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Hiked this to the old ridge top campground - looked like there might be some new orange flagging along some of the trail? Or maybe I just did not notice it when I was on this trail last month?

While wandering around the camp area my partner and I came across a fairly big pile of trash - looked like 2 big black 'Action Packer' plastic tubs had been hauled in with supplies - one was still closed but one was open - sleeping mats, Mountain House and MRE food packaging, fuel bottle, plastic containers, pot, TP, likely a tent in a stuff sack all spread across the ground - didn't look recent but it also did not look ancient... We were mystified how all that stuff got there (horse/mule?). Anyone seen that before? Needs a clean up for sure!
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Jun 03 2012
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Hiked about 2.3 miles down the trail and took a nice break at a well used old campsite on the ridge before heading back up. With some care the trail was reasonably easy to find and follow, but it was occasionally a little faint (ferns obscure a short section, watch for cairns and cut trees at a small drainage just after the ferns if you loose the trail). Some downed trees across the trail, but nothing that causes too much trouble. Stove, bedframe and some other metal pieces remain from the cabin - there was a trickle of water and a couple of holes holding water in the drainage near the cabin. We did not spend too much time looking, but after the campsite on the ridge at about 2.3 miles we did not see the continuation of the trail. Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmiles/sets/72157630038673678/.
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Aug 02 2010
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During the months of June and July 2010 I've cleared and marked the Knagge trail for 2.3 miles from the TH on Incinerator Ridge. It's now easy to follow the trail using cairns or surveyor's tape flags. The end point of the clearing work is at UTM E 529130.82, N 3586724.72, descending from an altitude of 8071 feet at the TH to 6583.4 feet at the end of the clearing work.
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Jul 26 2009
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Went down to the cabin and back today, will have to go back.. with pants or at least tall gaiters :sl: GREAT views though in spots, especially the rocks just below and north of the cabin remains. Nice place to have a seat and take in a view for a while. I have to say, it was more like hiking game trails back home as a kid. In many spots it's hard to follow and has to be the wettest summer hike I've had in a while thanks to all the low growth. A great change up from the past couple weeks!
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Nov 23 2008
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Went out to see what was left of the Knagge trail and popped by Incinerator Peak and Leopold Point on the way out. The trail is basically a route, but well wort a visit. Great day with great company!
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Nov 22 2008
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Good times on a forgotten trail. The Knagge isn't really a trail so much anymore as a route. Sometimes it's just wandering around in the weeds. Pretty cool though.

The trip to Leopold Point is eye-popping.
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