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Lake Pleasant Plane Crash - 4 members in 7 triplogs have rated this an average 3.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Lake Pleasant Plane CrashPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking7.55 Miles 1,445 AEG
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Visited the crash site of the AT-6. Went up to the Black Benchmark on the way in. That has great views of Lake Pleasant but is a hard route with long sections of large rocks.
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Lake Pleasant Plane CrashPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking8.36 Miles 1,211 AEG
Hiking8.36 Miles   4 Hrs   45 Mns   1.99 mph
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This one's been on my wish list for 11 years. I had no plans for the day, and the weather was conducive, so why not? I parked at the intersection of 87th Ave and W. Saddle Mountain Rd. I set a waypoint on my GPS track for a better spot to park.

The first 2 miles of this hike follow burro trails, in and out of a wash with relative ease.

The path I took out of the wash was not the best, walking on a constant barrage of volcanic footballs to the saddle. My way into the wash was also not optimum—steep and loose.

I found the crash site and looked around for a bit. It seemed to me that there were fewer items at the site than I'd seen in older photos. The most impressive item left was the 9-cylinder rotary engine.

Next up was a 0.5-mile walk to the shore of the lake.

I decided to try a different route back. I climbed up to hit the ridgeline. I found this to be much faster travel along the tops rather than walking through the washes. Still rocky, but better. The theme of the day was to follow the burro trails whenever possible. I did see 2 different herds and was surprised I hadn't seen more with all the sign out there.

I was very thankful for the cloud cover; otherwise, it could have been kind of warm. The breeze was nice also.

Five warbirds stayed around the lake for an hour or so, climbing, diving, and flying in different formations.

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Lake levels seemed to be down about 20' from full pour
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Lake Pleasant Plane CrashPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking8.73 Miles 1,260 AEG
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Had to cancel on Friday hike because rain was predicted. (And for once was correct!) Rain was also predicted for Saturday. And Thursday. So, I decided to go on Wednesday and, because that made for only a five day week for me, picked something I thought would be a three hour tour. (And one for exploring.) Like Gilligan, it lasted much longer than I expected.

My normal liquid load is 3-4 liters of water and a liter of G2 (the less sugary Gatorade). Because the temps were cool, and I anticipated a short hike, I carried only 2.5 liters of water, replacing one of my half liter bottles with beer. Thankfully, I carried the liter of G-2. The duration, and physicality, meant I drank more than anticipated and, to make matters worse, I lost a water bottle while descending to the AT-6 crash site wash. I wasn't in danger, but I was running low, and had to watch how fast I drank.

The 1.5 wash walk from the trailhead on Saddle Mountain Rd. is full of ankle breaker rocks and numerous cholla, particularly large buckhorn. But the lower slope of Black Mountain is no better, so you might as well stay in the wash, and look for animal paths to speed you along. Otherwise, watch your footing. The ankle breakers make things slower and more tiring.

Opposite the northwest corner of Black Mountain, there are three washes up to the saddle. The first wash is the one most people take, and I also took that one up. However, I took the middle one back, and that seemed to go a bit smoother. I did not check out the third, eastern-most wash.

At the saddle, I headed out to the OP overlooking Lake Pleasant, where I took a break, enjoying a refreshing “Czechvar” beer — the original Budweis(er), not the swill brewed in St. Louis — while checking my twitter feed.

I now faced a choice, backtrack a half mile to the head of the AT-6 crash site wash, or go “over the edge”, and head straight down to the site.

I headed straight down. The slope is so steep — 400 ft. in only a quarter mile (equivalent to an extreme 1600 ft. in a mile) — that staying upright all the way down was simply unsafe. I admit to occasionally butt scootching. As it was, the slope is bouldery, and I knocked a number of rocks loose. Definitely only for strong & confident hikers.

The ditch you see up the north slope of the AT-6 crash site seems natural, not due to the plane(?), which vertically burned in. Because of its crash angle, the circle of AT-6 remains is relatively compact. I’m not a pilot, and I only have rudimentary mechanical knowledge, so I do not know what all the parts were, but I was surprised at how light the fuselage remains were: I could lift them with one hand easier than I could lift the alternator (?) I found. A number of parts, including the fairly intact engine, have melted aluminum, fused with rocks into a metallic cement. I saw some bones, but they had to be from animals, as 1LT Luhr’s remains were removed soon after the crash. I found a buckle, some control cables, and even a peddle, but no dials or instruments.

I returned by hiking to the head of the AT-6 crash site wash. Then I started towards the third wash (which I mentioned earlier), but decided it might be a bit steeper than I thought, opting for the middle wash down. I got nailed in the calf by buckhorn cholla. Had to use a comb to remove the bud.

Once back in the main wash, despite being very tired, I tried to make as much time as possible, while also minding my footing on the ankle breakers. It was because I was looking down that I walked straight into another buckhorn cholla. That sucked. I still got little cactus hairs in my leg, dragging on my sweatpants.

So, I was mistaken, this was not an easy hike. At all.

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Lake Pleasant Plane CrashPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking8.20 Miles 1,267 AEG
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Perfect temperature (high 50's) , but a difficult hike. The trail was littered with boulders that were about 3 feet in diameter.

The going was very slow, as you had to continuously check footing and make sure your ankle didn't twist on the rocks. We were able to get a reprieve on our way back when we found a burro trail. We followed that uphill for about .5 miles.

The biggest problem is that there is no marked trail so much of the hike was spent avoiding cactus injuries. Lastly, the hike was very isolated. I saw no other hikers on or near the trail.

I would do it again great challenge and great day.
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Black Plus AT-6 Wreck Site, AZ 
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This was a double destination, off trail hike on the east side of Lake Pleasant.
I went up a mountain to locate a benchmark, then continued a few miles north to locate the wreck site of an AT-6C military plane. The AT-6C crashed over 71 years ago.

BLACK Triangulation Station was set in place in 1924, mainly to assist in surveying the Maricopa/Yavapai border. The county border follows the Agua Fria River in this area, and the 1924 boundary survey pre-dates the original Waddell Dam that made Lake Pleasant. I went up a scree field and a cholla field to get to the top of Pk 2431, where the benchmark was set. Ironically the benchmark is not on Black Mountain, located just east, across a valley.

After locating the benchmark, I went off Pk 2431 to the north and eventually made my way down to a wash that led me to the wreck site.
Lt Orland l Luhr, based at Luke Field, was piloting an AT-6C, tail #41-32833 when it crashed near Lake Pleasant on Saturday, 19 Aug 1944 (at 3:05 PM). He had a midair collision with a TB-25C bomber, tail #42-32383. The mid-air collision occurred at approximately 9,500 Ft.
The B-25C was commanded by Lt George Hunter. He and his crew were based at Mather Field, Sacramento, CA. Both planes crashed, and there were no survivors.

This midair collision was unique because it occurred while filming a WWII Hollywood movie sequence.

The HAZ description for the crash site is “Lake Pleasant Plane Crash”, and includes alot of specific information about the circumstances that led to the AT-6C crash. It’s a good read.

I did a bit more research and discovered that there were a total of 18 AT-6s airborne (yes … 18), all in one huge formation, simulating a head-on attack by Japanese Zeros on a large formation of B-25s.
There was a ‘camera plane’ up there also, filming the simulated attack.

In addition, I found three eye-witness accounts of the midair collision itself. The three eye-witnesses were actually flying at the time of the midair collision.
One eye-witness was another AT-6 pilot and two were in the camera plane. Their eye-witness accounts are quite interesting.
One eye witness (the AT-6 pilot), followed the doomed AT-6 to the ground, and saw it burst into flames. He then flew north about 3 miles and circled the B-25 crash site.

If interested, go here for more on the simulated attack sequence, and the eye-witness accounts.
It’s titled “Tuffys War” (Part 3 of 6)
http://bit.ly/1GPvCRo
(Take your time - It’s a bit long and detailed)

After viewing the wreck site (and saying a silent prayer for Lt Luhr and the bomber crew), I hiked out thru a boulder-filled wash, up and over a ridgeline, past Pk 2431, then to the trailhead. During the hike, I rousted a ‘flock’ of Javelinas, and had a staring contest with some wild burros. I lost the staring contest.

It was a good hike.
Locating the benchmark and its two reference marks was uneventful, and visiting the wreck site was, as expected, quite sobering.
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Lake Pleasant Plane CrashPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking8.45 Miles 2,620 AEG
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Well, I hiked out to the plane crash. It was easier than I thought it was going to be. There wasn't that much bushwhacking. The way back, was a bit more difficult. Damn Cholla fields! After the plane crash, I hiked to the tallest area South-West of the wreckage. A quick 450ft gain. I found a spot to relax for a few minutes, with great views of Lake Pleasant. I then started back toward Black Mountain. Damn Cholla Fields! Black Mountain was a quick 500ft gain. I then hiked along the ridge. I stumbled on a well hid registry. This registry only had 3 visitors since 2010. I built up the cairn, to help others find it. The problem is, all the rocks are piled up on the ridge. Its very hard to spot. The registry for Black Mountain, is about 15ft North of the " The Lord's here" sign, and maybe 20-25ft north of Teds Petroglyph. I then started hiking down the ridge of Black Mountain. I noticed a guy parked out in the desert. Fearing that this guy was going to fire some rounds off, and didnt see me, I altered my course. 5 minutes later, gunshots and more gun shots. You loose a quick 700ft in elevation here. I then hiked to a small hill, then to my truck. Damn Cholla fields!
Great weather for a desert hike in March. There was a constant wind today. Depending on your route, I did a lot of rock hopping/climbing. Cholla fields everywhere, and the cacti are starting to bloom.
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Lake Pleasant Plane CrashPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking7.00 Miles 1,270 AEG
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Had wanted to visit this site for some time. Having a few days off and wanting to concentrate on some good hikes provided the opportunity. Fair weather and an offer of guide services by good friends who had been here once before sealed the deal. The wife even wanted to go along.

We met near the marina and headed out. This hike begins easy but that is just to sucker you in. It gets more difficult but remains fun.

The hike was punctuated by wild burros, a big bunch of javelina, three different tarantulas (named Terry, Tony and Taniqua by unnamed members of the expedition). Our legs were often punctured by the abundant cholla. While the trailhead and objective are pretty much at the same elevation, there is a lot of up and down on loose rock. We made slow but steady progress.

Found the crash site easily enough. There is even a geocache here. Had that in hand quickly (thanks Steph). Explored the area and had a nice lunch.

Said a little quiet prayer for Lt. Luhr. About 26 years ago I was 4 seconds from dying while trying to land a crippled F-16. Technology had changed a little since Luhr crashed the Texan here in '44. The ACES-II ejection seat got me out of my problem with just a sprained ankle and a good story for the bar in years to come.

Hiked out and enjoyed some refreshments back at the vehicles. The whole team did great on this one. Another enjoyable day in the Arizona desert.
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