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Cave Creek Cave - 5 members in 7 triplogs have rated this an average 3.4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Dec 04 2021
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Cave Creek CavePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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LosDosSloFolksTriplogs 601
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This is a docent guided hike and tour provided by the Desert Foothills Land Trust. They offer several of these per year and Cathy and I have been applying for 15 years to no avail. This year we finally made it in. :y: Unfortunately Mrs. SloFolks illness precluded her from going today. :( Not wanting the spot to go to waste I asked @tibber to join me and she readily agreed.

It is a short hike crossing several parcels of private land with some creek walking involved. No running water today so no problem with wet feet. The cave itself has lots of history as shown in the photos. There has been vandalism over the years so I tried to include only photos of the prehistoric art and a few later examples of "grafitti".
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Dec 04 2021
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 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Cave Creek CavePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Sadly Cathy couldn't make this reservation only trip, but fortunately for me, I was her stand-in. I met at Greg's house and had the chance to visit with Cathy for a few minutes before we headed to the meet-up area. Our guide would be Bill and he and Greg lived in the same area of IL. Bill was into golf as, of course, is Greg. I learned some more new things about Greg's life as a caddie and pro so that was a fun start. Bill also fishes in Montana so we had something in common as well... the Montana part, not the fishing😉. We would also ride with Bill, thus why I learned more about them both.

As you drive to the private residence, you are struck about the devastation of the May 2020 fires (Ocotillo https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/6728/ and https://www.azcentral.com/picture-galle ... 296160002/ and East Desert https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/6712/) that literally came right next to a lot of these houses. There were many lucky homeowners.

You literally walk in this owner's yard to get down to the creek. They have interesting cairn and trail markers. Once in the creek bed, Bill pointed out what he called Go John Diorite. Neither Greg nor I have heard of such a thing. I googled it and couldn't find anything. The only dirorite I could find close to what we saw is microdiorite (intrusive, not volacanic). He said there was more of it along the Jewel of the Creek Trail. Microdiorite is around twenty million years old.

We zigged and zagged in the creek bed, noticing the burn vs non-burn areas and the long view north to Skull Mesa, Sugarloaf Mountain, Black Mesa and then New River Mesa. As we got to the west side of the creek the side walls are very tall and mostly hard dirt. We could also see some new growth coming from the burned trees and of course, some bright colored catclaw in all its new found glory. The cave, from this angle, is not really noticeable until you're almost at it.

At the cave's base is lots of beautiful conglomerate :) which somewhat hides the big mouth of the cave. You are allowed to go up in the cave and walk around to take pictures of glyphs, pictographs and engravings; there are a lot. Lots of soot too from all the fire activity. Bill shared history of the cave and of a particular soldier from a Northeastern family that he had done further research on. It was quite the march they did from Camp Verde to this area. He mentioned the reason General Crook was more successful is because he used Indians as part of his regiment.

Greg was in his element searching all of the cave and ended up finding a very small piece of yucca fiber. He hid it safely in one of the cave's ceiling alcoves so hopefully that will preserve it longer. He also got some really good pictures of the engravings too. We headed back out of the cave and along the west side where Bill pointed out a bee honeycomb. He got a nice zoom picture of it [ photo ]

According to research, Cave Creek has flown in about the same channel for 2-3 million years. They say Cave Creek was 300 feet higher about 5 million years ago. For more info https://www.dflt.org/ including this two pager on the Cave of Cave Creek: https://www.dflt.org/the-cave-of-cave-creek

It was surprisingly warm as we made our way back to where we started. On the way back to Greg's we looked at the 10 stamp mill outside of the Cave Creek Museum. They are going to run it on the 11th.

Next I would head up to the group campground at Cave Creek (Seven Springs) as Arizona Backpacking Club was having a Beginner Backpacking Meetup. I didn't get there until 3 so I missed a lot of it, however, the part I did get in on was very interesting: sleeping pads, tents, stoves, navigation (including hikearizona.com). We had a huge potluck dinner and sat around the campfire finishing with the last discussion about Leave No Trace; in particular on the AZT.

Tonto 3 was my tent; it was 32 in the AM so rather than staying for morning coffee, I came home. Just to let you know, closer to the campground area Cave Creek is flowing and Tonto 3 got its tires washed. Second, it was interesting to see one of the three houses (that look like they are built just above the creek) that the green one on the east side of the road, on the north has been ruined pretty badly with a blown out wall. It's amazing to see how how that water must have been running during those rain storms we had. Third, the leaves are turning and some are that crispy brown already. And last, by the time I reached the main paved road, the temp was 50!
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Feb 05 2017
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 Joined Nov 13 2005
 Cave Creek, AZ
Cave Creek CavePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Just some pictures out in Cave Creek.
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Dec 10 2016
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Cave Creek CavePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Sun_RayTriplogs 1,238
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20 of us took the tour with Desert Foothills Land Trust. Neighbors Ned, Nancy, Leon joined Judy and I. Interesting to hear about the Native American history in the area as well as US Soldiers, gold miners and cowboys. It's on private land that has been granted access to the land trust...only accessible through tours.
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Mar 05 2016
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 Scottsdale, AZ
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Did this backpacking trip with the Arizona&Beyond Hiking and Backpacking group from meetup.com. Decently challenging hike with a heavy pack on, if only using a day pack I don't think it would be so bad. The top of the mesa is beautiful, especially if you bushwhack over to one of the edges overlooking the city/valley. There were streams of water early on in the hike (couple miles or so), after that I think it would be pretty hard to find filterable water. Temps were very manageable, with only a light jacket on in the evening to keep warm. We went to find the ruins, easy if you have the GPS coordinates logged - hard if you are just walking in the general direction. They are a good 4 or 5 miles out once you get to the top of the mesa.
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 Mesa, AZ
Cave Creek CavePhoenix, AZ
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The Desert Foothills Land Trust organizes approximately six trips to the Cave Creek Cave a year. I was fortunate enough not just to get a spot, but to get a spot with a relatively small group of eight. There's a mystique to the cave that I don't want to spoil with detailed descriptions or photos. This is a special place that is a must if you care about local history or land conservation.
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Feb 15 2014
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 Phoenix, AZ
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A friend called up with an opportunity to visit the Cave Creek Cave today. Definitely couldn't turn that down. Easy hike but some great history and geology along the way.
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