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Baker Butte L.O. CNF 8077 - 3 members in 10 triplogs have rated this an average 3.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 29 2025
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Its a Beaute, AZ 
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Hiking9.15 Miles 1,552 AEG
Hiking9.15 Miles   3 Hrs   48 Mns   2.52 mph
1,552 ft AEG      10 Mns Break4 LBS Pack
 
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A route up the backside of Baker Butte has had my interest for a while. The fuel reduction and logging work from two years ago may have made the climb portion a bit easier.

I started from the trailhead above "The Switchbacks" of the Pine Canyon Trail, using a combination of decommissioned and overgrown forest roads along with some off-trail travel. I made my way over to the climb up FR 9388L, which disappears after a couple hundred feet. This portion of the climb is at the upper edge of Pine Creek Canyon and involves 700 feet of climbing and traversing through and around locust thickets. Views back down toward Pine Canyon were obscured by smoke from the seemingly endless North Rim fires.

Near the top, I picked up the short Lookout Loop Trail to reach the summit. It appears the Baker Butte Lookout is unmanned this year—at least on weekdays.

To mix things up, I descended via a different track, following the path of least resistance and eventually ending up on the decommissioned FR 9384M. A different route back to the start included a short stretch of the General Crook Trail. It must have been open-range day for the cattle—I saw and hiked past quite a few.

The wild raspberries, though small from lack of rain, were still tasty. Pleasant temperatures, a mix of shade, and occasional breezes made for a pleasant hike.
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I set out in hopes of getting on the snow before the morning sun started to impact the fresh post-storm conditions. Success! :y:

Despite the unbridled childlike joy that these days trigger in me, I was struggling on the climb up to the summit, and generally just felt crappy. The views sure did help distract me though. Low clouds sat in the valleys and all the surrounding mountains were caked in winter magic.

As is typical on the day after a winter storm, the north/northeast wind was fierce (see Snowbowl for the "day-after" wind hold on the gondola) and with temps still in the 20s it was biting.

After retracing my steps I altered my plans on the day and set skyfeet to snow on another short jaunt to capture some new-to-me wintertime views from up here. Not feeling any better, I retreated to less-strenuous activities, fully satisfied with my first winter playday of '25.
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Baker Butte L.O. CNF 8077Payson, AZ
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking1.10 Miles 260 AEG
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After a morning hike, it was warm even at 5,700 feet. So we took a drive up to the rim for a short one. Deb had never been up to the Baker Butte Lookout, so up we went. I was shocked to see the gate at the bottom open, so we could have driven to the top. I was also surprised to find the Lookout Lady descending the stairs to take her lunch break. She said if we waited half an hour, she'd let us up in the cab. I told her I'd thought this lookout had been converted to cameras. She said it's equipped with cameras, but that she was there for the season.
We climbed the stairs to the bottom of the locked cab and took in the views (and breezes). At 8,800+ feet, it was 81 degrees.
I sampled a trail that took off from the bench to see where it went. Short and sweet, it took me back to where I started.
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GCT 27 to Baker Butte LO, AZ 
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Hiking21.08 Miles 1,630 AEG
Hiking21.08 Miles   8 Hrs      2.74 mph
1,630 ft AEG      18 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
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It had been over 10 years since Denny and I last traversed this section of the General Crook Trail. This was one of three sections about which we were not confident that we had followed the trail as described in the book I possessed. I had always wanted to return and attempt to pinpoint where we went wrong. The book and map clearly indicated the trail running east of 29 Mile Butte and following Corduroy Wash to GCT MM31. This was further reinforced by my discovery of two GC chevrons in Corduroy Wash during an unrelated hike.

I had initially planned to venture out there in the spring, but the Wilbur Fire/controlled burn in May thwarted those plans.

Fast forward to Thursday. It was time for a walk in the woods. I had a hunch that the book might be incorrect. I decided to dedicate the day to a GC chevron hunt, with a particular focus on exploring a potential route west of 29 Mile Butte after FR144.

To keep a long story short, instead of turning east on FR144 (as per the book/map), I continued straight through. Bingo! I stumbled upon the familiar GC chevrons. I followed these markers all the way out to V31 on the other side of SR87.

My next goal was to investigate the relocated grave of Andres Moreno, as reported by @kingsnake in June ( [ triplog ] ), and then ascend to the Baker Butte LO, which I hadn't visited in over 10 years.

The lookout is no longer staffed (or should I say "personed"?); cameras now scan the landscape.

Upon returning across SR87, I decided to descend into Corduroy Wash and search for additional chevrons. Unfortunately, I didn't find any more chevrons besides the two I had previously mentioned. So, I'm not entirely sure what's happening there.

During the day, I had the pleasure of spotting a mule deer and three elk. It seems that the bulls have finally shed their velvet.

The totals are for the entire hike, and the track has been adjusted to account for the "explorations." Not an exciting hike, but I needed to clear things up.
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Potato Baker Snowshoe, AZ 
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Snowshoeing9.22 Miles 1,267 AEG
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I wanted to get up and see the lasting snowpack on the rim. I know it's been melting fast, but research and past experience had me confident on a route that would be snow-covered.

What you see from the highway is surprisingly bare. We began to wonder if this plan wasn't going to pan out. But we strapped snowshoes to our packs and set out from the 613 gate dodging snow drifts on the muddy road bed. At 7300 there was plenty of bare ground, but the drifts were deep and annoying to cross.

Around a mile and a half in we took off on the old 9382 road, now shod for flotation as there were few bare spots and it was easier in snowshoes than not. We crested at 7550 where there was full snowcover. The short drop down to Potato Lake Draw is north facing and was mostly bare, so we switched back to plain boots. The melt runoff is raging!! A river ran through the draw and the lake was flowing over the earthen dam that directs flow into the potato basin. Upon the return wade across the dam I noticed several areas of flow through the earthen mound below. I could easily see this structure failing before the melt ends this spring.

We opted for the sunny side of the draw to avoid the snowpack. This lasted about a mile until the 7400 contour where snow travel became the only alternative. We continued up Potato Lake Draw until reaching what is normally a large summertime group camping area adjacent to the rim road on 9362T. At this point the snow was a minimum of 2 feet deep with deeper drifts.

It was a huge surprise to find that the FS had run a blade down the road! This gave us an unexpected dry road walk for a little over a quarter mile before making the turn to ascend the butte via the untouched summit road.

After a nice break on the peak we headed north via some old two-tracks and a little cross-country adventure before descending via Fourtyfour canyon. These north-facing aspects were fully snow-covered and allowed for snowshoe travel all the way to 613, only about a quarter mile from the truck.

What a treat to get up here with this kind of spring snowpack. Below 7500 feet there's easy travel (well, muddy for sure, and lots of wet "creek" crossings). Above 7500 right now it's pretty much all snow, except on directly south-facing aspects which have melted out. And some of that snow is still in the 3 and 4 feet deep range. I know the FS is hoping to open the paved part of 300 on the east end in the next week or two. Depending on how things melt and dry out, I wouldn't expect to see the 300 open before at least May 5, the 12th would be a better bet in my mind. And I'm not complaining one bit!!!
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General Crook Trail #130 - Coconino NFCamp Verde, AZ
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There is a Coconino NF plan to open General Crook trail along the rim and connect AZT #27 to Cabin Loops / Highline as well as link up to “Rim Country Trails”.

A group of us spent 2½ days clearing a boat load of deadfall and dog fir for about 6 miles from General Springs to FR 300 just past Myrtle trail(@FR 137). Good times with a great group. Saw 4 elk and 1 deer early on Sunday.

After we finished on Saturday did a short side trip up Baker Butte. On Sunday on the way back took a detour to Happy Jack went up Hutch Mtn then Apache Maid on my way to I-17.
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Baker Butte Lookout, AZ 
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Now don't get in your car and drive from Phoenix or Tucson to do this hike, Heck don't even drive from Payson to do this hike. If you are on FSR30, Mogollon Rim Road stop and check this out. The Lookout tower is open during the day to visitors but closes from noon to 1:00, I got there at 12:10. I was able to climb up to the lookout but couldn't get inside. Great views all around.
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Baker Butte L.O. CNF 8077Payson, AZ
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I had mapped out a nice 8-9 mile trip with plans to visit Potato Lake and Baker Butte. Plans change!

I had hoped that FR300 had received some snow machine traffic, but that wasn't the case. Not only had it not happened after this storm, it hasn't happened at all this winter!

The highway was nicely plowed, but the snow banks were 4-5 feet high and there was no chance of parking near FR300, so I ended up adding a mile of highway hiking at both ends of the trip (an adventure in itself given the lack of shoulder and vertical snowbanks!)

It took about three steps for me to acknowledge that my planned loop was not going to happen. There was a minimum of 32"-36" of fresh snow, sometimes up to 42". I forgot to put snow baskets on my poles and had to extend them from the normal settings I use them on to the stop marked "Dallin" ;) I still found them to be too short much of the time!

This hike would have been absolutely impossible without snowshoes, but even with them it was extremely challenging to break the trail. I pressed on, moving under 1 mph and taking very frequent breathers, knowing that the return trip would be faster in my existing tracks. It snowed off and on between breaks of sun, and the temps in the upper 20s made for ideal conditions.

I'm not sure I could come up with a more exhausting two mile summit. If you want to do this one, it's a whole lot easier now. I've done all the work for you! :lol: Even with more snow tomorrow, it'll be a world easier following my tracks. I highly recommend it! :)
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Parked at the gate on FR 300 ran up the hill did a 1 hour activation had several contacts ran back down the hill and headed to the next on Buck Mountain L.O.
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General Crook Trail- V20 - V39, AZ 
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Round 3 on our General Crook Trail adventure.

Who needs a Flat Denny when you have a 3D Denny!

Perfect weather Temps started in the low 60's, up to 71, and then we finished at 59.

We started at Apron Tank, just off Rt260, located around V20 (20 miles from Fort Verde) and began our climb up to the rim. The trail thus far, and on this section, have been easier to follow that expected. A GPS with a track created completely on HAZ's powerful Route Mgr, is defiantly required to keep you on course. Old Topo maps and the Boy Scout GC Trail book provide the fodder.

On this section I think we have seen the last of our Wire Basket Rock Cairns. Since the Junipers and now Ponderosas are more prevalent, we are seeing many more "V" Chevrons to direct the way.

Now up in the tall pines, the area around V28 - V30 was confusing as there are old roads and new Forrest roads that go all over through here. My description of the track and what we were seeing, did not agree, and we lost some time here looking for Chevrons.

We finally reach and cross Rt 87 and spot the 2nd of the old General Crook Trail Signs "V31"

This section (V31 - V39) I had my biggest concern on so far. I'm concerned that with the lack of traffic on this trail, we'll have trouble with all sorts of downed trees and have major route finding issues. I was pleasantly surprised that sometime in the last two years, someone had cut all the downed trees and had re-sprayed the Chevrons to make them more visible. There is also evidence, with flags and ribbons in portions, that additional work was in the works. All we had to worry about, was this years dead fall.

At V34-1/2 we took a side trip up to the Baker Butte Fire Lookout Tower. It's not yet open for the year, but there is evidence of lots of work done to the 1936 structure, including the addition of a new Generator.

Other historical items spotted.
1) Grave of Andres Moreno (7/11/1840 - 7/16/1887) who worked on the trail and was a soldier at Fort Verde
2) Evidence of the old Military Telegraph line that allowed communication between Headquarters in Ft Whipple (Prescott), Fort Verde, and Fort Apache/

With this trip complete we have completed a little more than 65 miles and 8800 of AEG.
We started at an Elevation of 4900' and have made it to the Rim at over 8000'.
Now we start our trek across the top of the rim in the cool pines and about 95 more miles to go.

Fauna spotted on this trip
An Arizona Black Rattlesnake (my first)
a small gaggle of Elk
A flock of deer
A heard of Hummingbirds

Good Times Turtle!
Now :pray:
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Baker Lake 1-25% full 1-25% full
More of a marsh.
Could filter if needed.
Would be easier to beg for water or beer from passers by on FR 300.

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Large wet area. Small pools available to filter from.

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