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Winsor National Recreational Trail #254 - 5 members in 10 triplogs have rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Winsor Loop, NM 
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Late September plans in Arizona were put on hold with the temps reaching levels of insanity. It would be stupid to attempt things here, and definitely not enjoyable.

So with about a day's notice, we opted for the slightly longer drive to the higher elevations of the Pecos Wilderness to tolerate the midsummer temperatures. Somehow the forecast called for rain chances over the mountains and as we got started on our short jaunt to camp before sunset some light sprinkles provided refreshing conditions that Arizona hasn't been able to provide me over the last 8 months.

Day 1: Winsor Creek TH to Stewart Lake (3.9 mi / 1817 aeg / 1:49)
We got started from the Winsor Creek trailhead, a mile up the road from Cowles. It's the eastern terminus of Winsor National Trail #254, the west end of which is across the Santa Fe Mtns at Ski Santa Fe. The actual Winsor Creek Trail has been abandoned by the forest service, but despite the lack of official maintenance, sees more use than the lower segment of 254.

This one follows the scenic Winsor Creek for a stretch before steadily climbing up the south slope of the valley until it meets up with the 254. After about 3 miles, the trail crosses Winsor Creek again and continues west on the same tread as Skyline Trail #251. Here we headed north for about a mile arriving at the popular Stewart Lake at about 10,200 feet. Despite a handful of other groups already settled in, we were able to select one of several additional previously used camp sites around the lake and set up camp in time for dinner as darkness set in. Lightning flashed across the sky and rain moved in, extinguished the fire, and chased us into our tents to sleep in the cool mountain air that dropped into the mid 30s overnight.

Day 2: Stewart Lake to Santa Fe Baldy and Lake Katherine (10.38 mi / 3127 aeg / 5:50)
We set out from camp with the main goal being to summit Santa Fe Baldy, a peak that sits just 11 feet lower than Arizona's highest point. There was a solid climb to start the day heading up the Skyline Trail and while we had originally planned to loop the ridge clockwise and summit via the traditional south approach made by most hikers who begin at Ski Santa Fe. But at the last minute we opted to go counterclockwise, starting with an insanely vertical ascent to the ridge east of Katherine Lake.

The climb covers 800ft in a quarter mile and required a few short oxygen breaks. Another couple hundred feet had us on the ridge with a great view back down to our camp at Stewart Lake and an absolutely amazing alpine ridge traverse around to SFB. The weather was threatening, but the end of September kind of threatening; dark and stormy, breezy, but not electric. Really, about as enjoyable as it could be. There was a register in one of the peaks along the crest. I'm guessing it has prominence or something to justify it. I'd have to say that this crest traverse was a far greater highlight than the summit of SFB. These are the things that I enjoy most.

There was a photographer on the summit, and we passed a group of 4 on their way up as we headed down toward the saddle. From there we headed down the switchbacks on Winsor 254 which dropped far enough that the traverse over to Katherine Lake then required about 400 feet of ascent.

There was a group of 4 camped at the lake along with another solo hiker and his dog. At 11,742, this is a quintessential alpine lake and we took a break here to snack, rehydrate, and feed some birds that flew across the lake upon hearing our snack wrappers and would put marmots to shame for their aggressive begging!

From here it was about half a mile downhill to where we started our climb to the crest and from there it was retracing our steps along the bottom of the lasso for 3 miles back to camp at the lake. A well-earned nap followed!

Day 3: Stewart Lake to Winsor Creek TH (5.89 mi / 546 aeg / 2:00)
On Sunday we had a relaxing morning with a fire and hot breakfast before packing up camp and setting out to return via Winsor Ridge Trail #271. I chose this route vs. the lower stretch of National #254 based on the fall color we could see from our hike yesterday. National is far more wooded with fewer views and more pine forest. The ridge trail has numerous aspen groves and quite a few open views across the range. As I made the descent I was thoroughly enjoying the trail, conditions, and weather, and concluded this might be a top-10 trail for me. It was super enjoyable! In summertime, the exposure lower down would make this one a little warm and is probably best hiked downhill if sunny and hot.

It's 1.1 miles from the base of Winsor Ridge #271 back up to the truck via the road. You might be able to get a ride, or you could park here and do the road walk at the beginning. I was able to make a precarious offtrail drop to the road from the last switchback, cutting 1.5 miles off the full loop. I'm not sure I'd recommend it, but it wasn't impossible!

It was a short drive to Santa Fe for a rewarding lunch.

Notes: These mountains have been decimated by fire over the past decade or so. This particular area is one of few that remains unburned. However, bark beetles have brutally affected the pine forest, and there is a combination of swaths of drab, gray, dead, standing trees ... and those that have fallen. These trails were in good condition, and evidence of extensive clearing exists, but there were also a few sections with some deadfall obstacles, and research showed that some trails have not been cleared at all, including the upper mile or so heading to nearby Johnson Lake, and the Skyline Trail south of the Cave Creek Trail, which as of now eliminates that route as a reasonable loop option in this area.
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On our 4th day in Santa Fe we hiked another section of the Winsor and Borrego Trails. I have hike the lower section of the Winsor trail a couple years ago and on this hike I will finish up a portion not done before. We started from FSR 201 and hiked north about .6 miles to where we turned around on the Winsor Trail a few Days ago then headed back along the Winsor to the Borrego Trail and to Tesuque Creek. Easy Trail to follow downhill all the way. We wanted to hike north along the Borrego Trail but couldn't because of a fence marking it as private property. Instead we hiked down to Tesuque Peak and took a break there before heading back. Tesuque Creek was running good.

I have now hiked the Winsor trail middle 9 miles but still have the lower west side and upper East side to Cowles to do. Total of 23 miles. Trail is in good condition but there are a lot of mountain bikers on it, mostly going downhill.
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Winsor Tesuque Peak Loop, NM 
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On our second day in Santa Fe we headed back up to the Aspen Basin Ski area and hiked the Winsor Trail again, this time heading North. we followed the same route as the Deception Peak loop but added a section to Tesuque Peak.

Followed the Winsor Trail about .8 miles then split off from it heading up to the saddle just below Deception Peak. Trail is fairly steep along this section as it heads up the ridge to Deception Peak. The Pecos Wilderness fence boundary is just off to the left of the trail. On the upper portion of this section are great views overlooking the Nambe valley and Nambe Lake(which you can barely see). Took a break at the saddle just below Deception Peak. At our break we had the opportunity to feed the exceptionally friendly Boreal Jays (Canadian Jays, you can tell they are Canadian because they would say "Aye"). Very interesting bird. also saw a marmot that stood off at a distance watching us (I think it was a forest service spy just watching us and ready to report anything we did wrong). After the break we headed down slope to a ski road that leads up to Tesuque Peak. Uphill but easy .5 mile walk to Tesuque Peak and the upper end of one of the ski lifts. Spent a little time checking out the cabins near the ski lift even one that hikers could use, came complete with fireplace and a couple guitars. Returned via the ski lift road (one of the ski runs). I think this was one of the hardest parts of the hike, very steep downhill. Easy walking for a while but after a mile or so becomes very hard on the knees, I found myself creating switchbacks along the ski run to lessen the downhill steepness. As you approach the lower ski slope the upper part of the Rio En Medio is running. Lots of flowers in this area along the creek.
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Winsor Trail #254, NM 
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On our way back to Tucson via Northern New Mexico and Payson, we stopped in Santa Fe for a few days of hiking. We arrived in Santa Fe for a short hike along the Winsor Trail #254. Drove up Hwy 475 to Aspen Basin. Started at the Ski area and hiked south along the trail for about 2.5 miles then returned the way we came.

From the parking area the trail heads down slope following the Rio En Medio, crosses the creek and heads uphill to the Norski parking area along Hwy 475. From there it is downhill again as the trail crosses many side creeks of Rio Chupadero. We continued on to where the trail comes to FSR102. At this point we turned around and returned. The trail is in good condition and easy to follow. Plenty of wild flowers but not abundant. Recent rains had the ground moist. Being it was the week before the 4th not overly crowded.
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I have been wanting to hike to Santa Fe Baldy (elevation of 12,622 feet and prominence of 1,982 feet) for 3-4 years, and I finally got over there to do this one. As a frame of reference, Santa Fe Baldy is 11 feet lower than Humphreys Peak. In some ways this hike reminds me of hiking Humphreys from Snowbowl, but overall I thought that this hike was more enjoyable.

The TH elevation is around 10,300 feet. You start off gaining some elevation right off the bat -- I gained about 550-600 feet over the first 3/4 mile, which took me to the wilderness boundary. Then you lose the 550-600 feet that you just gained over the next 1.5 miles or so. From there the gain is relatively gradual up to a saddle that is at about 11,700 feet in elevation, and about 1 mile from the summit. From there it is a steep climb to the summit, with the steepest being about 12,100-12,500 feet. This part was slow going for me, as I was basically going straight up a steep slope. Once at 12,500 feet, it was a fairly easy walk the rest of the way.

Most of the hike up to the aforementioned saddle, was through trees -- kind of like hiking Humphreys up to Agassiz Saddle. However, for the most part the tread was much, much better than Humphreys. Once at the saddle, the views really opened up.

The summit views were quite nice. I walked a short distance from the summit and had some good views looking down on Lake Katherine.

On the way back Route Scout flaked out and there is a flat lined segment on my gps track. That is the first time that has happened in a long, long time.

There were quite a few yellow aspen leaves on the hike, although they were not yet at peak.

I enjoyed this hike, although regaining the 550-600 feet on the way back was a bit of a struggle. If I lived in the area I imagine that I would do this one 2-3 times a year.

This was my 150th U.S. county highpoint, with 48 of them being in 2023; and the year is not yet over!
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The aspens weren't at peak yet, but there were lots of yellow leaves to be seen.

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Hiked about 3 miles of the Windsor trail from Tesuque side. First mile is along private land but then you follow Tesuque creek along the canyon and flowing creek, through the pines. Beautiful!
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On our second day in Santa Fe we headed back into Santa Fe National Forest and hiked the Borrego-Bear Wallow Loop. The trail head for this hike is on the northern boundary of Hyde Park. The trail head is marked. To make this hike a little more challenging we would add a section of the Winsor Trail that heads up to the Big Tesuque Trail then back track down the Winsor to the junction with the Chamisa trail then return via the Bear Wallow Trail. This would make the hike about 10 miles. Aspen trees were in pockets along the trail in a pine fir forest.

All trails are in excellent condition and signed. Mountain biking appears to be quite popular here. We saw about a dozen hikers/bikers along the trail. The forest is a mix of pine/fir/aspen trees. The aspen along this trail were in full color. Tesuque Creek was running with a light flow. Very scenic hike the whole way and for a 10 mile and almost 2000 feet
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This is the "Humphreys-from-Inner-Basin"hike of New Mexico, albeit with a little less AEG and a little less impressive aspen groves, but with the added bonuses of multiple streams and summit views down to a nice, alpine lake. Lucky for me, my travels to Santa Fe allowed me to catch the area in peak fall colors season.

The approach to Santa Fe Baldy begins at the Santa Fe ski resort parking area, which sits at 10,300 ft. There is ample parking (no fee) next to the TH, which is furnished with bathroom facilities, but no water.

Right out of the gate, the trail climbs approximately 600 feet in the first 3/4 mile, leaving the unacclimated lungs and calves a bit burning. Topping out at about 10,900, you reach the Pecos Wilderness Boundary, which is marked by a fence. For a shorter hike with views, you can turn right here and follow the fence line up to Deception Peak and on to Lake Peak, with views down to Nambe Lake below. But those bound for Santa Fe Baldy continue through the gate and begin a gentle, contouring descent around the north side of the mountain divide. Approximately, 2 1/4 mile, you arrive at a junction where taking a (signed) right will lead you up to Nambe Lake. Continuing across the stream that descends from Nambe Lake, the Winsor trail continues its contour and descends down to about 10,400 feet, where at about 3.6 miles, you cross another stream.

At that point, the trail heads in a more northerly direction and begins switchbacking--at first gently, and then more steeply, up to the Santa Fe Baldy saddle. What has been to this point a mostly forested hike, opens up to views of the surrounding peak, as you approach and then cross the tree line. As it was a cold but clear mid-October day on my hike, this was also the first time the sun shed some warming rays on me, unfiltered by the thick forest.

At the saddle, which lies at about 11,700 feet, the warmth of the sun was blunted by the countervailing wind, which picked up and prompted a short break to layer up a bit.

More interestingly, the saddle provides your first glimpse of the other side of the divide, which on this day, painted a picture of fall colors in the forested hills and valleys beyond. At this junction--nearly 6 miles in, the Winsor trail continues down the other side of the divide down towards Katherine Lake (not visible from the saddle). That's a trip for another day, though you can look forward to seeing Katherine Lake from just beyond the summit a little later on.

Leaving the trusty Winsor trail, at the saddle, the destination on this day is Santa Fe Baldy, the trail to which hangs a hard left at the saddle, and much like its Humphreys counterpart in AZ, leaves a steep mile and another 900+ feet of AEG to make the summit.

The trail up to this point is well groomed and easy to follow. Just past the saddle, the trail enters a rocky area, which makes the trail somewhat more difficult to discern in spots, but nothing that requires significant route finding skills.

Now fully above the treeline, the views get more and more expansive as you ascend. From the saddle on up, it's likely to be a little windy. On this day, it was (thankfully) not much more than a breeze--though still quite cold, with short stints of photo-opping followed quickly with shoving my hands back into my pockets to re-warm them.

The trail generally follows the divide up and around to the north until the summit cairn comes into view. The cairn provided welcome shelter from the easterly blowing winds. For some reason, my Garmin registered the summit at 12,660, rather than 12,622.

Venturing beyond (and yes, down) from the summit means some additional AEG to get back to the trail, but is well worth it for the "money shot" of the hike with beautiful views down to Katherine Lake, nearly 1000 feet below. Lots of good spots to sit down, enjoy the sun and the break from the wind, and soak in the beauties of nature surrounding you in this alpine environment.

On this day, I crossed paths with only one person on the entire trip up, and enjoyed complete solitude at the summit. After a good 20 minutes exploring the summit/Lake Katherine views, I returned the way I came. Those last couple of miles going back UP to the wilderness boundary--though gently rising, were more taxing on my "ascenders" than I wanted. The steep descent over the last 3/4 mile brought me back to the parking area, followed by a winding and beautiful canyon drive, during which the best fall colors were on proud display from about 8000-9500 ft.--with the roadsides swelling with carloads of visitors, getting their fall color fix in.
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This was the first stop on my five day New Mexico excursion. I completed an overnight backpack to Katherine Lakes and hit the summit of Santa Fe Baldy on the way out in the Pecos Wilderness.

The hike into Katherine was definitely a green tunnel, but there was a nice section of aspen and some other pretty scenic sections of forest that helped with the lack of views. The views start as you climb to the saddle marking the intersection with the Santa Fe Baldy trail and the trail down to Katherine Lake. The saddle is really an excellent spot to take in your surroundings and appreciate for the first time the beauty of the range you are hiking in. From the saddle, it was down to Katherine. This is a very popular backpacking destination and I knew I would have company and I was right. I think there ended up being about 4-5 groups on the lake that night, but it was by no means crowded. The lake was really an amazing destination, but I could not imagine staying here on a busier weekend.

I got an early start for the hike out because I wanted to bag Santa Fe and hopefully not bump into too many people on the way out. The early start enabled me to catch a pretty amazing sunrise, maybe on of better ones I have had in the back country in recent memory. Baldy was a fun peak and the dogs had a blast, marmots everywhere. The views from the peak were superb and the trail up well worn and straightforward. Katherine Lake may be more scenic from above the treeline in my opinion. The hike out got way to crowded for my liking, which was expected on the Saturday of Memorial weekend. I was very happy to have got some quality time in that area before the hoards arrived. I probably passed 25-30 backpackers and the same amount of day hikers on the way out. But the crowds did not diminish the trip for me in anyway and I still left feeling elated about the area with a big itch to get back to the more scenic and less crowded areas of the wilderness. A perfect intro to the wilderness and a perfect backpacking option for my old pups.
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On our way back from visiting family in Albuquerque, we drove up to the Sangre de Cristo Mountains and entered the Pecos Wilderness on the Winsor Trail. Nambe Lake is beautiful and the water is fine for a swim! It's not a true alpine lake since it's not fed by glaciers, but it is a nice high altitude mountain lake. Rio Nambe follows the trail down from the lake.

Did this hike with my parents and I'm thankful they're up for hiking with me! Even if I had to slow down my pace... ;)

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