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Jul 27 2020
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55 male
 Joined Oct 24 2010
 Phoenix,Az
Rudd CreekAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 27 2020
mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking2.60 Miles
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This ended up being my second hike of the day. After Escudilla fell through I had quite a bit of time on my hand so decided to check out this “trail”. My memory servesd me better for this TH. I just needed to remember MM 408. The pull off is just off the 191. After slipping and sliding in the mud I settled on a good parking spot and checked out the area. Rudd Creek was dry at the TH, but it was abundant with trees. I’m guessing oak and cedars. The “trail”, in truth a game trail, headed off in a westward direction. It quickly entered a valley with gentle slopes that became steeper and turned into vertical walls as they reached the top. The valley opened up to the south and the game trail headed in that direction. By following the game trail it took me away from the creek. This wasn’t too bad since the growth around the creek was heavy and even though there was no water at the TH, there was water flowing sluggishly in quite a few spots and it was hard to tell where the water flowed due to the heavy growth. When the valley opened to,the south two hills dominated the view. The growth was sparse enough that I was able to leave the game trail and hit both these “peaks”. They were both surprisingly mesa-like and provided decent views of the surroundings, except to the north where the mesa was higher. I descended down the backside of the taller “peak” and looped around to rejoin Rudd Creek. I had to creek hop a couple of times to reconnect to the game trail which I took back to the car. Couple of notes: muddy! Not horrible so as long as I paid attention to where I was stepping. I still had to shed a few pounds a couple of times by scraping off excess mud. Also, the ants out there where demonstrating their engineering skills. There were some massive ant hills!! Some with 3-4 ft radii with nothing bigger than a pea sized pebble nearby. These areas stood out not only because of the size of the ant hill but the total lack of anything near the hill.
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Sep 22 2019
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55 male
 Joined Aug 20 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Rudd CreekAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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RickVincentTriplogs 783
Hiking2.10 Miles
Hiking2.10 Miles   2 Hrs      1.05 mph
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Driven by this spot many many many times, and often thought to stop. Finally did. Nice hike. Trail in some areas, but is very primitive. Great views and valley's especially from the high points. I climbed a couple hills along the way to make it more interesting. No water flow at the start, but as I made my way upstream, water appeared and was very lightly flowing. Saw a few osprey along the way, but other than that no other wildlife of note.
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Mar 18 2011
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72 female
 Joined Jan 21 2006
 Eagar AZ
Rudd CreekAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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azbackpackrTriplogs 883
Hiking3.70 Miles
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A short ramble along this creek, which is very small this year. Spring landscape is a bit drab, doesn't green up for several months. Yet still, a pretty canyon, underneath the black basalt rimrock and out of the wind.
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Aug 01 2009
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 Joined Jan 21 2006
 Eagar AZ
Water Canyon to Sipe, AZ 
Water Canyon to Sipe, AZ
 
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azbackpackrTriplogs 883
Mtn Biking31.00 Miles
Mtn Biking31.00 Miles   5 Hrs      6.20 mph
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This was one dirt road mountain bike ride I had thought about doing for a long time. From my house in Eagar I rode up Water Canyon to Milligan Valley to Sipe Ranch and back home again. Turned out to be about 31 miles. It's pretty steep going up Water Canyon but the rest of the route made it all worthwhile. Once I had turned off onto Milligan Valley Road (FR 85) it got pretty dreamy, with a lot of gradual coasting downhills through the forest, wildflowers, etc. I saw no vehicles once I was on FR 85. One of my rest stops was next to Rudd Creek, where there is a car campsite, a running creek, and lots of flowers. I saw only one group of people camping all along Milligan Valley Road, though. They were camped next to Benton Creek. At the back gate of Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area my odometer read 20 miles. Stopping at Sipe for a break, I then rode the Sipe road back to 180/191. I took a detour on a side road I knew about, that would get me back to Saffel Canyon and Water Canyon, but I turned around, deciding to do that on another day. Back on the Sipe road, reaching the highway, I went straight across and caught the old highway down to Eagar. You take the first left through a barbed wire gate. It almost looks like someone's driveway because there's a new house up there on top of Picnic Hill. The old highway has slowly been reverting to dirt for many years, but still has some pavement and painted lines.

Directions: Starting in Eagar, ride up Water Canyon Road (FR 285) to Milligan Valley Road (FR 85), (a 7-mile, 1000-foot grind from my house near 260.) Turning left to Milligan Valley, follow it to Sipe. There is one Y turn a few miles in that you have to watch for (not the first one that goes to private property.) The right hand of the Y says 85A. Take the left, which is unsigned and is heading slightly down hill.

Eventually, after passing the nice old log cabin, you'll get to the back gate of Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area, owned by Game and Fish. Beautiful place. Then on out to 180. Crossing straight across 180, take the first left through a gate. This will put you onto the old highway down to Eagar. Once you are back on 180 you can ride the ATV path alongside the highway--fun bumps!
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Jun 16 2009
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Rudd Creek - Sipe to Milligan, AZ 
Rudd Creek - Sipe to Milligan, AZ
 
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azbackpackrTriplogs 883
Hiking8.00 Miles 421 AEG
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A continuation of our exploration of Rudd Creek. Mileage given is round trip. It's a beautiful hike, first through a ranch belonging to Game and Fish Dept., and then following an overgrown dirt road along a creek in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest. We had done the lower section from the highway to Sipe earlier this spring. We saw no one, saw no human or ATV tracks, only those of elk, deer and raccoon. I don't think many people at all go there. We did spook up one cow elk who had been drinking from the creek. Lots of trees: narrowleaf cottonwood, ponderosa pine, etc. I wish my camera was of higher quality, but you can at least get the idea of the area from the photos.

This middle section is reached by going to Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area (Game and Fish Department property, open to the public). Directions: From Eagar, take U.S. Highway 180/191 south towards Alpine; you'll see the turnoff signs on top of a mesa two miles from Eagar. (From Springerville, follow US 60 through town, watching for signs for US 180/191 Alpine. Turn right at this Y intersection. Follow this road until it connects with 180/191, turn left. Go about 2 miles to the top of the really big hill, where you will see the signs for Sipe, which will be a right turn onto a dirt road.) Follow the improved dirt road five miles to the property, turning right at a Y. Go all the way in to the dead end where there is the ranch house/tourist area and park there. Walk past the barn, the ranch buildings and several houses and out the other side to a huge open field. Walk generally along the creek, which is partially fenced with electric fencing, across the big field, heading generally southwest to a notch in the mountains. (About 1 mile.) You'll get to the Rudd Creek Cabin first. From there, you hop the fence into the National Forest and keep following the creek. An easy place to hop the fence is where PVC pipe has been placed on the top wire to help the elk jump it. There is an old dirt road you can follow, which crosses and recrosses the creek, plus there is a path along the old irrigation ditch.

Once you have hopped that fence you will most likely leave all tourists, volunteer docents, other hikers, and birders behind! When we arrived there yesterday the ranch area was also overrun with orange-jumpsuited state prisoners, doing some weedeating. But you'll leave all that behind you when you hike Rudd Creek.

Maps: You'd best have them. You'll need the Nelson Reservoir 7.5' quad to start with and then the Eagar 7.5' quad. If you continue on to the south, (further than we did,) you will also need the Rudd Knoll quad. These are usually available in Springerville at Western Drug, in the gun department.
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Mar 15 2009
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Rudd CreekAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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To get to this canyon, take 180/191 south from Springerville/Eagar. Just before you get to Nelson Reservoir, and past milepost 408, you will cross the bridge over Nutrioso Creek. There is a parking area for the trail on the right, just past the bridge. Nelson Reservoir 7.5 map. It's a nice one to catch on your way to or from Escudilla. That's Escudilla, covered in snow, in the highway photo.

We hike this one in spring when the snow is melting. Hike up about 2 miles, you are going to be almost to the Game and Fish Department's Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area. That's as far as we went, but you CAN follow Rudd Creek upstream on through Sipe's and out the other side, past a locked gate, keep going upstream, crossing FR 85 (Milligan Valley Road) and on up to St. Mary's Lake and Water Canyon Rd. Incidentally I did try to climb to the top of that knob you see in the photo, from the other side of it. Later I saw there is a small break in the rimrock on the north side of it. I'll try that way next time--I got cliffed-out on the south side.

Theoretically you could follow Rudd Creek to its source, then hike the Overland trail back to Eagar, or hike it to the south and catch the Black River, and make a big loop, via Fish Creek, Grant Creek, Lanphier Creek, etc., to New Mexico and the Gila Wilderness. That might seem like a long hike. It would be at least two or three weeks, if you took your time. Ah, but I'm daydreaming again!
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