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Grapevine Trail #135 - Sierra Ancha - 4 members in 14 triplogs have rated this an average 3.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Grapevine Trail to Deep Creek Trail, AZ 
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This was my second day of hiking on a 5 night car camping trip in Cherry Creek Canyon. The plan for this hike was to explore what appeared from the distance to be an old mining road which starts from the Grapevine Trail #135 and goes up Deep Creek Canyon towards McFadden Horse Mtn. The beginning section of this road is shown as a pack trail on the USGS McFadden Peak quad topo map and it also shows up on my Garmin Southwest 24k topo map. I had also seen the road bed from a distance where it traverses the south side of Deep Creek Canyon on previous hiking trips to this area. The 1985 "Mineral Investigation of the Sierra Ancha Wilderness and Salome Study Area" does not list any mines or prospects in Deep Creek Canyon so I suspect this road was more of a prospecting access road than a mining road.

The hike started down the Grapevine Trail from the north end near my campsite. After about 2.3 miles I started looking for the Deep Creek road but could not find it so ended up following the track shown on the gps map. According to this map the road had gone straight up the bottom of a shallow wash which I followed. There was no sign of an actual road bed until reaching the upper end of the wash where the map showed the road angling off to the northwest. From there the road bed was visible except for one brief disappearance as I followed it along the south side of the canyon. The Juniper Fire had cleared out what was probably a heavy brush covering making it fairly easy hiking but really did a number on the scenery. I hit my turn around time before reaching the road end but was well up into the canyon. Looking at my track on Google Earth I now see that my turn around point wasn't far from where the road angled down the south side of the canyon a short distance to the stream bed below where it most likely ends. Again there was no sign on GE of mining activity along this short section of road. So it was an interesting exploration into a canyon with some nice views of the cliffs above but no luck finding any old mines or Indian ruins.

On the way back I spooked some animals hidden by the trees and brush where the Grapevine trail crosses Deep Creek. From the clatter I could tell these were large hooved animals but they sounded too clumsy to be elk. I had been seeing fresh cattle hoof prints along the Grapevine trail for the last two days without spotting any. These range cattle can be as elusive as wild critters. As I proceeded along the trail a large red and white cow with very sharp horns suddenly appeared staring at me through an opening in the trees with her tail slightly raised like she was ready to charge. She was the leader of a small group of younger cattle who were hiding behind some bushes waiting for her to handle the situation. I'll admit to being a little frightened but after softly talking to her she lowered the tail and took a less offensive stance. Then the rest of her group came out of hiding and joined her to pose for a photo op. Sometimes the experience from being raised on a cattle ranch and rounding up range cattle in the sage brush covered hills of eastern Washington State can come in handy.
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This hike's objective was to locate the 5 adits that comprise the Sorrel Horse Deposit (Uranium) above the north end of the Grapevine Trail #135 in Cherry Creek Canyon. My hope was that the Juniper fire in May had cleared the thick brush blocking access to this area. According to the 1985 MINERAL INVESTIGATION OF THE SIERRA ANCHA WILDERNESS AND SALOME STUDY AREA these adits were driven to varying distances of 25 to 250 ft into the hillside to prospect for uranium at claim sites originally staked in 1954. No ore was produced from these sites. The 1985 investigation concluded that "the presence of minable uranium concentrations in this area is unlikely".

The hike down the Grapevine trail to its intersection with the Black Brush Mine road went quickly except for stopping to take photos. The west side of Cherry Creek Canyon has been burned off in this area making it easier to follow this old road bed although it made for rather stark scenery. The fire had apparently burned hottest on the hilltops that protruded from the west side of the canyon leaving them bare. I have found Indian ruins on top of a few of these hilltops in the past so I scanned these now bare hilltops for new ruin finds as I proceeded along the trail.

Upon arriving at the Black Brush Mine road I found that it had also been effectively cleared of brush. However the clipped ends of charred brush could be seen from when Grasshopper and I had cleared a path up to the BB mines back in March 2014. I followed the BB mine road for a short distance and then decided to take a shortcut straight up the now cleared hillside to where the road to the Sorrel Horse mine road starts. This road which had been so heavily covered with brush that it was invisible was now open. I followed the old Sorrel Horse access road up to where it disappeared straight down a wash deep into the depths of Cold Creek Canyon. From the furthest point I reached on this road I could see where it switched back and forth up the other side of Cold Creek Canyon to reach what appears to be the gray rock layer that contains uranium. Scanning the hillside on the opposite side of the canyon I was unable to spot any adit openings. (However after returning home and searching some zoomed in photos on my PC I may have found at least one adit which is now noted in the photo set.) The descent into the bottom of the canyon appeared risky for this old solo hiker with tired legs. Doing a mental evaluation of risk versus reward I quickly decided to bail out and started back to camp with enough time left to search for ruins on some hilltops along the way. The ruin search was also unsuccessful but did satisfy my long standing curiosity about the possibility of ruins on those hilltops. I got back to camp in time to enjoy a couple hours of reading while the sun dropped below the western rim of the canyon and it was time to cook dinner.
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After 5.5 years and 45,000 miles, I finally decided it was time to get a new set of tires for the Stillermobile. I’ve been avoiding dirt roads for the last 6 months, and it was time to get back out to the wilderness. With the cooler winter weather, I’ve been hitting some local hikes doing trails that have been recently built. There are a couple trails at the higher elevations in the Sierra Anchas that I haven’t done yet, but I want to save those for when it’s too hot to hike around here. But the Grapevine Trail is down lower by Cherry Creek. And the last time we hiked there in August, it was brutal, so this is a good time of year to get that done. Wally, Joe and Alex were on board to join me for this one.

The ride in and back out was probably harder than the hike itself. From my house it’s over 85 miles to the end of the pavement, and then it takes 2 hours to travel 26 miles up FR203. The road isn’t really awful, but it is slow going after Devil’s Chasm. :scared:

We started our hike at the Lucky Strike Trail, and then hiked the Grapevine Trail south to north, and hiked back on FR203. At the Lucky Strike “trailhead”, we found Lee was overnight camping with a buddy of his. It was nice to finally meet Lee, as well as his dogs, Cup and Blanco, who are very friendly and like to play. Since we’re both Xterra owners, we discussed some issues about our vehicles (rear hatch struts, charcoal canister emissions issues, etc) and our same choice of tires. After talking for a bit, we had to move on since it was a long day just getting out and back home.

The hike up Lucky Strike was much easier than the last time we hiked it, since it was over 30 degrees cooler and we hadn’t already hiked over 5 miles. We found the Grapevine Trail junction easily and made our way north on that trail. It starts out very clear for a while, and one spot is really nice and shady as it goes thru a canyon with a stream and a nice canopy of shade. Within a mile, however, it does get overgrown. I honestly didn’t think this was all that bad. There was only 2 or 3 times I had to stop to figure out which way the trail was going, and at no time did it ever seem like the trail was gone, like what you see in a lot of the Mazatzal Wilderness trails. No catclaw to deal with really, just some brush to push out of the way, and some treefall here and there. In the middle of the trail, there was evidence that someone had been thru semi-recently and cut some of the manzanita bushes. Every canyon that the trail went thru had running water, which also made it a pleasant hike. Even with that, it was decided that taking FR203 back to the car would be the best bet for ease and saving time. The total actual hiking time was 5.5 hours, which was better than I expected. We almost spent more time than that on FR203.

At the south end of the Grapevine Trail just as it started to get overgrown, we found an odd campsite that looked like they were doing something illegal. Lots of black irrigation tubing, and a whole bunch of trash left under a tree. Wally and Joe checked it out, Alex and I didn’t get too close to in case something was booby trapped. Kind of sad to see something like that.

On the way out I tried to clear a rock on FR203 that was bigger than it looked (to me :oplz: ) and it hit the frame. Fortunately no damage was done and after I moved it, we were able to get home without incident.
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Up Lucky Strike #144 to Grapevine #135. Down #135 to FS203 and followed 203 back to start.

The purpose of the hike was to tackle Grapevine #135. The upper 0.75 mile is in good condition. It is also the location of a grow site that appears abandoned a good year ago. The lower 1 mile, basically used as access to the old mines, is in pretty good condition.

About 2.25 miles in between is a bush-push. Typically 7 foot manzanita on one side greeting mountain mahogany or such from the other side. Some was entangled. More often just good solid momentum pushing and turning did the trick. Only a hint of locust and catclaw. We did this descending. Ascending without momentum against the grain would likely be miserable. For reference the manzanita was uncharacteristically slender and forgiving.

It has the potential to be a great trail if cleared. Trees canopy many sections. Great views when the canopy opens up. Two? of the four major drainages we crossed were flowing good.

Alex tried to get us all sick. We got him healthy instead. Chris searched for sanity in the sea of suburban drama. Wally ( the charcoal bandit ) still claims the Disney trips are for his daughter. Best of times.
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This was day five of six of our Sierra Ancha vehicle camping/hiking trip. This day hike in-a-row #4 was expected to be another typical off-trail bushwhack with a new area to explore.

Oregon Hiker and I had previously discussed a couple of new area hike options for this last full day hike, and we both agreed that the Grapevine Trail #135 back to explore above the Black Brush Uranium Mines had more exciting rewards to offer us :) .

From past experience, our Sierra Ancha Wilderness can be very non-forgiving (brutal) for those who sometimes take its off-trail exploration for granted. Normally we spend a considerable amount of at home pre-planning time for new area explorations with high probability drawn and then downloaded/uploaded GPS Planning Routes to follow before just taking off into the wild.

Today was our exception to the rules, and we both paid dearly :lol: ..
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..but guaranteed we will return for more with a better plan next visit ;)
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This was our second day hike out of Camp Grasshopper in upper Cherry Creek Canyon. This time we were off to find some Indian ruins in the cliffs above the Grapevine Trail (#135). These ruins located in a cliff alcove had been located back in 2011 by CannondaleKid. http://hikearizona.com/photoset=15603 Although the structures are not all that significant compared to the better known SA ruins, the pictographs at this site are unique with vivid red, white, yellow and orange colors. I have never seen pictographs like these at any other SA cliff dwelling site.

We drove the 2 miles down FR203 from camp in GH's jeep and took off down the Grapevine Trail. After going some distance on this trail we started the off trail hike up to the cliffs above. Large patches of manzanita blocked our path several times. Some detours got us around most of it but not before I impaled my wrist on a sharp broken branch. After some quick first aid we were again on our way and arrived at the ruins exactly where CK said they would be. There were no intact roofs or roof beams at this site. Perhaps an ancient forest fire burned all the wood parts of the structure. Some walls still had the adobe mortar and plastered walls with the finger prints of the folks that applied it to the walls. There was a main larger set of ruins with maybe 6 to 8 rooms visible now but maybe several more that had crumbled down to the point of not being recognizable. Most of the pictographs were on the walls of the cliffs at this location. A second smaller set of ruins was about 150 ft away along the face of the cliff. A Canyon Wren acted like he was the current occupant of this second set of ruins.

The pictographs were quite vivid in color for their age and mostly zig-zag lines. I've heard lines like these represent snakes or the crooked canyons or ??? - nobody knows. The only animal figures I could make out were three red lizards at the smaller second set of ruins. I wonder if the pictographs were maybe done later by other Indians and not by the original inhabitants.

GH and I spent some time looking for the metate and collection of pottery sherds shown in one of CK's photos from his 2011 trip but could not find them. http://hikearizona.com/photo=195202 I include the link to his picture because many of the pottery sherds have the corrugated outer surface like the ones I found at the hilltop ruins near Elephant rock - not all that far from these ruins. I could not believe anyone would have taken them. So when I got home I started studying my pictures of the ruins and there they were by a small very low rock wall about 40 feet from where I took the picture. GH had even walked right by them on his way to check another area for ruins. Makes me wonder how much cool stuff we miss seeing on our hikes. :(

We cut our hike short and headed back to camp. GH was anxious to start preparations for dinner that night as he was expecting two guests (myself and BeeBee).
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Since my first "out and back" hike in March'09 to complete this entire seldom hiked, overgrown, route finding :sweat: 8.6 mile round trip Grapevine Trail #135, I had then stated that I believed ancient Salado Cliff Dwellings resided within some of the more dominant butte alcove cliffs off this trail.

Others have since confirmed this and now finally five years later to the month, Oregon Hiker and I were able to plan a personal visit to see for ourselves (known as Site C:1:67).

Two sites visited this day (a larger 6-8 room site and a smaller site located along a cliff wall 150ft further down). Both of these sites are very unique in that both have various design, vivid colored PICTOGRAPHS (vivid reds, whites, yellows and orange colors). We had never witnessed pictographs at any other Sierra Ancha Salado Cliff Dwelling Sites visited to date.

It was a very interesting and rewarding day and one I will always treasure :D
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This was the first full day hike of a six day camping trip with Grasshopper to the Upper Cherry Creek area of the Sierra Ancha Mountains. Our destination for this hike was the Black Brush Uranium Mines high above Cherry Creek Road on the east side of McFadden Horse Mountain. Mining access to this area was made possible by the extension of FR203 up the canyon from the Ellison Ranch to connect with HW288 in the early 1950s with funding from the Atomic Energy Commission. These mines were staked in 1954 and 2 major adits were dug. In 1955 and 1956 two shipments of ore, 7.9 tons and 11.23 tons, were made to the Cutter Uranium buying station about 8 miles south of Globe. Mine operations were shut down shortly after 1956. Samples taken from the mines during a later mining survey indicated that Adit #1 had the highest uranium concentration of any of the mines they sampled in the SA Wilderness. These tidbits of info are from the 1985 Mining Investigation of the Sierra Ancha.

The trail to the Black Brush uranium mines starts at the Grapevine (#135) trail head which is 2 miles down FR203 from our campsite. The old mining road to the BB mines branches to the right off of the Grapevine Trail (also an old mining road) at 1.1 mile from the TH. These trails are not maintained. The Grapevine Trail up to the intersection with the BB mine road is getting overgrown with Manzanita and other brush but the cows keep a path semi open through these obstacles. The BB trail is very overgrown for much of the first 0.5 miles and we had to hack our way through with loppers. A light rainfall started at this point and didn't stop until we reached the mines so I stashed the camera and didn't get many pics along this stretch.

The mines are located along a road blasted and bulldozed out of the solid rock hill side following the layer of gray/black Dripping Springs Quartzite which contains the uranium. The first and northern most mine we encountered is referred to as Adit #2 in the mining survey. It was dug horizontally into solid rock and did not require timber reinforcement. The mine tunnel is approximately 100 ft long and still in good shape The area had been cleaned up. There is very little old mining junk laying around with the exception of two rusty spring bed frames laying on rotten boards on the road bed in front of the mine. The second mine, Adit #1, is approxmately 600 ft further down the road and has a tall narrow opening. The shaft extends 56 ft with a crosscut shaft 25 ft from the mine opening extending 140 ft.

We ended our hike at these mines and headed back for the trail head. There appeared to be a fork in the road which headed down into Deep Creek Canyon and there is another fork which follows the Dripping Spring Quartzite layer northeast to the Sorrel Horse Uranium mines about a half mile from the BB mines. These could make for some interesting exploring another time.
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My thanks to Oregon Hiker for doing most all the route and historic pre-planning for this most interesting and scenic Sierra Ancha 1950s active Uranium Mines hike.

My guess is that no one had been up to these "Black Brush Uranium Mine Adits" since HAZ- Nighthiker's visit a number of years ago :) (see Nighthiker's post-comment below)..

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Think this was where I found a couple of sticks of dynamite.. http://hikearizona.com/photo=403997 Placed them in a tackle box underneath the bench seat in the pickup camper. Forgot all about it, dad found them a couple weeks later while fishing at Apache Lake. He had a chat with me when he came back.


It was a real test of endurance and perseverance to so slowly plow our way through and up the dense overgrowth of Manzanita and Scrub Oak to reach these Black Brush Uranium Mine Adits, but well worth the effort as doing so has opened-up some additional exploration areas of interest along with having had a most rewarding visit this day to these historic 1950 Uranium Mines.

I always enjoy the remote area scenery around these old mining areas as much if not more than the history. For those history buffs, see Larry's most interesting, detailed triplog - :next:
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I had not visited this scenic section of our Sierra Ancha Wilderness off upper Cherry Creek Rd (FR203) since March'09.. http://hikearizona.com/trip=42291 . It was nice to be back :D

In October'13 Oregon Hiker and I had completed some extensive trip planning for a planned mid Nov'13 "three night/four day" vehicle camping/mostly off trail hiking trip to this area. By October end we had completed all our planned new exploration hiking which also included a few stops off upper Hwy 288.

On Halloween night :o I managed to slip and take a very bad fall in my bathtub shower and did some damage to my right shoulder, enough damage to justify a quick visit (thank you trishness!) to an orthopedic surgeon for needed x-rays. Fortunately, nothing broken and I'm now much better but a slow healing process which would not allow me to wear my heavy day pack again until this ~Dec'13.

I suggested to Larry that we change our mid Nov'13 camping plans to do a scenic one day driving and scouting trip with some minimal exploratory hiking planned since I knew that I would be "good to go" in Larry's FJ with a fanny pack and my camera. This day trip would also allow for us to invite our favorite HAZ- mnlumberJACK to join us :) .

Regarding our Grapevine Trail #135 hike: In my last March'09 visit and hike (8.6mls R/T), this seldom used trail was very overgrown and I don't believe that any trail maintenance has taken place since 2009 to date. After ~.75 mile in this trail in now basically an overgrown route for hunters, bears, and a few other wild critters, but seldom hiked. Larry and I just needed to confirm a few key WP take-off points along this TR#135 for some future exploration, so we only needed to hike in for 1.1 miles to confirm if the historic Uranium mining road intersection for the Black Brush Mining Claim to the Sorrel Horse Mining claim still existed. We were able to confirm that it still exists, but it is very overgrown with heavy manzanita, scrub oak, and more..

I included this old Uranium mining roads connection detail to TR#135 on my posted HAZ GPS Route in hopes that a few of our HAZ "advanced hikers with masochistic tendencies" might try this one to "blaze the way" before Larry and I get around to it :lol:

Our planned day scouting trip and short hike down TR#135 was well worth the effort.

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I second what our HAZ mnlumberJACK stated in his 11/13 triplog.

For me, a most enjoyable five Kokopelli rated 40.4 mile road tour with stellar near and distant views within our historic, rugged, and scenic inner Sierra Ancha Wilderness.. very 8)
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While planning our next hike somewhere in the Sierra Ancha area I ran across a photo Grasshopper took on a hike back in early 2009 that he described as very likely to have Salado Indian ruins and that's all it took to provide a destination. After a little research and scanning of topo maps I drew out a few tracks to waypoints of where the most likely spot would be and loaded it onto my GPS.

Anticipating a long day of searching we packed everything the night before and set out early, spending 3-1/2 hours on the road and arriving at our planned start location at 9:15 am. After a few minutes to put on our packs we set out, climbing the moment we left the car. Initially the terrain wasn't too bad as it was part of another trail, but once we turned off to follow the route I drew toward the first possible location it immediately turned into a tough slog through Manzanita and thorny brush, which quickly brought back memories of a few of my days searching for GPS Joe on Mt Peeley. The only thing different was the weather... thankfully no freezing rain this time. But just as determined as I was on Peeley, we had set out to find something worthy of our slog through whatever terrain we encountered and we weren't about to give up without it.

Once we hit the base of the mountain it was a bit easier as long as we stayed against the wall. Tracey kept asking me how much farther, how much farther.... just like a little kid, are we there yet? are we there yet? I wondered how long I'd have to put up with that!

When we got within a few hundred feet of my first waypoint I began to think it would just be a hike through a bunch of brush with no reward. But just when I pulled out the GPS to recheck our location Tracey let out a gasp, and me thinking she saw a rattler my snake hook was already in my hand. Then she exclaimed that she saw ruins. At first I thought she was just giving me a line, but then I saw them for myself and in a moment, all the slogging through the brush was nothing compared to such a find. Surprisingly they were within 50 feet of the waypoint I arbitrarly set the night before as our first and most likely ruin location.

While very few walls were still intact there was plenty to see. Tracey spent most of the time taking photos while I took a number of videos and a few photos. There weren't many pottery shards to be found but there was a nice mano & metate for grinding grains & seeds. As I was filming I noticed some small pieces of rock art and as I swung the camera around, more and more art appeared in the viewfinder. Man! This was truly worthy of the efforst we made to get here. Once we felt we had documented it well enough we headed on toward my second waypoint.

This time we found antother set of ruins a good hundred yards before my second waypoint, which was good, because the terrain did not look good past that point. This set was much smaller and there wasn't as much to hold out interest for long so we set out for our return to the car. For the return trip we followed the track which had been my second option for the day. Most of the return we tried to stay in the largest ravine to avoid much of the worst of the heavy brush. It was easier albeit a bit longer.

After returning to the car, as we looked south I noticed the distinct outline of the northe face of the mountain that Pueblo Canyon Ruins were on the opposite side. With it that close we figured we'd simply continue along the 4x4 road and see how close we could get. Ultimately we were able to continue all the way through and headed on past Pueblo Canyon, Cold Spring Canyon, Devil's Chasm. With a short stop just after Devil's Chasm we headed down to Cherry Creek itself where we took a short hike along the creek. After that we continued past the Ellison Ranch, following Cherry Creek Road back out to AZ 288. Then it was a long drive home. By time we got home it was a 15-1/2 hour day, but well worhty of the time and effort.

I've only had time to post 20 photos here on HAZ, but you can view a larger set here on my web site:
http://www.changephoenix.com/11/2011-06-01SierraAnchaRuins.html

I also have a 2-1/2 minute YouTube video of the ruins here:
http://www.changephoenix.com/11/V2011-06-01SierraAncha.html

This adventure has simply whetted our appetite for more off-trail excursions to locate more ruins.
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On 6/24/06 I did my very first hike in the Sierra Ancha Wilderness. Topohiker and I hiked in from Workman's Creek Rd to the Carr TH to hike part-of Parker Creek TR#150 and Rim TR#139.

Today, 2 years and 9 months later, now having completed this Grapevine Trail, I can now say that I have completed ALL the official, published trails (13 total) in this Tonto Natl Forest- Sierra Ancha Wilderness :DANCE: . This day is definitely a day of reflection with so many very special & challenging moments in this remote & rugged wilderness area, many long day and nights day hiking and arriving back home late at night and also due to the driving distances from the Phoenix area, a lot of $20. bills+ expended for gas money. Some of these 13 trails required as many as 3 seperate trips to access & complete the entire trail lengths.

This last Grapevine Trail was a tough one to schedule since it is a very long drive to reach from the Phoenix area(4hrs one way) and is situated such that there is a narrow window for finding the best time to hike it. It is located in the upper north end of the wilderness area 9 rough miles down 4x4 Cherry Creek RD's(FR203) north end. Depending on the time of year, the TH access is either too cold(with ice & snow on FR203 access at Board Tree Saddle 5900'elev.) or just too hot the seasonal temps to hike. This trail also sees very little hiking activity and thus "the trail" (80-90% old mining road access) is now very overgrown with nasty manzanita, some catclaw, lots of scrub oak, with some needed route finding and downed trees to negotiate. It is also a trail that probably offers as much scenic enjoyment by just driving the parallel distance on Cherry Creek Road. I feel my picture set of this hike offered more enjoyment than did the actual hike. The good company Ken and I had join us with HAZ- Natalie Robb and her two friendly pups-Dakota and Hector helped make the long day more worthwhile. Fitting I guess that this last trail should have been the very last one for me to have completed hiking in this Sierra Ancha Wilderness, but yet still another amAZing day! ;)
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The only reason to do this trail is to finish off the Sierra Ancha trails. Like Grasshopper, I have now hike all of the Sierra Ancha trails. This trail was very slow moving and hard to follow in spots and its an old Jeep road! It took us 4 hours to get to the TH. We spent more time driving than hiking!
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