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Winsor Loop, NM 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Backpack20.74 Miles 5,364 AEG
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Late September plans in Arizona were put on hold with the temps reaching levels of insanity. It would be stupid to attempt things here, and definitely not enjoyable.

So with about a day's notice, we opted for the slightly longer drive to the higher elevations of the Pecos Wilderness to tolerate the midsummer temperatures. Somehow the forecast called for rain chances over the mountains and as we got started on our short jaunt to camp before sunset some light sprinkles provided refreshing conditions that Arizona hasn't been able to provide me over the last 8 months.

Day 1: Winsor Creek TH to Stewart Lake (3.9 mi / 1817 aeg / 1:49)
We got started from the Winsor Creek trailhead, a mile up the road from Cowles. It's the eastern terminus of Winsor National Trail #254, the west end of which is across the Santa Fe Mtns at Ski Santa Fe. The actual Winsor Creek Trail has been abandoned by the forest service, but despite the lack of official maintenance, sees more use than the lower segment of 254.

This one follows the scenic Winsor Creek for a stretch before steadily climbing up the south slope of the valley until it meets up with the 254. After about 3 miles, the trail crosses Winsor Creek again and continues west on the same tread as Skyline Trail #251. Here we headed north for about a mile arriving at the popular Stewart Lake at about 10,200 feet. Despite a handful of other groups already settled in, we were able to select one of several additional previously used camp sites around the lake and set up camp in time for dinner as darkness set in. Lightning flashed across the sky and rain moved in, extinguished the fire, and chased us into our tents to sleep in the cool mountain air that dropped into the mid 30s overnight.

Day 2: Stewart Lake to Santa Fe Baldy and Lake Katherine (10.38 mi / 3127 aeg / 5:50)
We set out from camp with the main goal being to summit Santa Fe Baldy, a peak that sits just 11 feet lower than Arizona's highest point. There was a solid climb to start the day heading up the Skyline Trail and while we had originally planned to loop the ridge clockwise and summit via the traditional south approach made by most hikers who begin at Ski Santa Fe. But at the last minute we opted to go counterclockwise, starting with an insanely vertical ascent to the ridge east of Katherine Lake.

The climb covers 800ft in a quarter mile and required a few short oxygen breaks. Another couple hundred feet had us on the ridge with a great view back down to our camp at Stewart Lake and an absolutely amazing alpine ridge traverse around to SFB. The weather was threatening, but the end of September kind of threatening; dark and stormy, breezy, but not electric. Really, about as enjoyable as it could be. There was a register in one of the peaks along the crest. I'm guessing it has prominence or something to justify it. I'd have to say that this crest traverse was a far greater highlight than the summit of SFB. These are the things that I enjoy most.

There was a photographer on the summit, and we passed a group of 4 on their way up as we headed down toward the saddle. From there we headed down the switchbacks on Winsor 254 which dropped far enough that the traverse over to Katherine Lake then required about 400 feet of ascent.

There was a group of 4 camped at the lake along with another solo hiker and his dog. At 11,742, this is a quintessential alpine lake and we took a break here to snack, rehydrate, and feed some birds that flew across the lake upon hearing our snack wrappers and would put marmots to shame for their aggressive begging!

From here it was about half a mile downhill to where we started our climb to the crest and from there it was retracing our steps along the bottom of the lasso for 3 miles back to camp at the lake. A well-earned nap followed!

Day 3: Stewart Lake to Winsor Creek TH (5.89 mi / 546 aeg / 2:00)
On Sunday we had a relaxing morning with a fire and hot breakfast before packing up camp and setting out to return via Winsor Ridge Trail #271. I chose this route vs. the lower stretch of National #254 based on the fall color we could see from our hike yesterday. National is far more wooded with fewer views and more pine forest. The ridge trail has numerous aspen groves and quite a few open views across the range. As I made the descent I was thoroughly enjoying the trail, conditions, and weather, and concluded this might be a top-10 trail for me. It was super enjoyable! In summertime, the exposure lower down would make this one a little warm and is probably best hiked downhill if sunny and hot.

It's 1.1 miles from the base of Winsor Ridge #271 back up to the truck via the road. You might be able to get a ride, or you could park here and do the road walk at the beginning. I was able to make a precarious offtrail drop to the road from the last switchback, cutting 1.5 miles off the full loop. I'm not sure I'd recommend it, but it wasn't impossible!

It was a short drive to Santa Fe for a rewarding lunch.

Notes: These mountains have been decimated by fire over the past decade or so. This particular area is one of few that remains unburned. However, bark beetles have brutally affected the pine forest, and there is a combination of swaths of drab, gray, dead, standing trees ... and those that have fallen. These trails were in good condition, and evidence of extensive clearing exists, but there were also a few sections with some deadfall obstacles, and research showed that some trails have not been cleared at all, including the upper mile or so heading to nearby Johnson Lake, and the Skyline Trail south of the Cave Creek Trail, which as of now eliminates that route as a reasonable loop option in this area.
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Santa Fe BaldyNorth Central, NM
North Central, NM
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,375
Hiking14.05 Miles 3,505 AEG
Hiking14.05 Miles   8 Hrs   23 Mns   1.95 mph
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I have been wanting to hike to Santa Fe Baldy (elevation of 12,622 feet and prominence of 1,982 feet) for 3-4 years, and I finally got over there to do this one. As a frame of reference, Santa Fe Baldy is 11 feet lower than Humphreys Peak. In some ways this hike reminds me of hiking Humphreys from Snowbowl, but overall I thought that this hike was more enjoyable.

The TH elevation is around 10,300 feet. You start off gaining some elevation right off the bat -- I gained about 550-600 feet over the first 3/4 mile, which took me to the wilderness boundary. Then you lose the 550-600 feet that you just gained over the next 1.5 miles or so. From there the gain is relatively gradual up to a saddle that is at about 11,700 feet in elevation, and about 1 mile from the summit. From there it is a steep climb to the summit, with the steepest being about 12,100-12,500 feet. This part was slow going for me, as I was basically going straight up a steep slope. Once at 12,500 feet, it was a fairly easy walk the rest of the way.

Most of the hike up to the aforementioned saddle, was through trees -- kind of like hiking Humphreys up to Agassiz Saddle. However, for the most part the tread was much, much better than Humphreys. Once at the saddle, the views really opened up.

The summit views were quite nice. I walked a short distance from the summit and had some good views looking down on Lake Katherine.

On the way back Route Scout flaked out and there is a flat lined segment on my gps track. That is the first time that has happened in a long, long time.

There were quite a few yellow aspen leaves on the hike, although they were not yet at peak.

I enjoyed this hike, although regaining the 550-600 feet on the way back was a bit of a struggle. If I lived in the area I imagine that I would do this one 2-3 times a year.

This was my 150th U.S. county highpoint, with 48 of them being in 2023; and the year is not yet over!
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The aspens weren't at peak yet, but there were lots of yellow leaves to be seen.

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Truchas PeakNortheast, NM
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This hike has been in my cross hairs for a while so I decided that today was the day.

Truchas Peak is in northern New Mexico a bit east of Santa Fe and north of the town of Pecos. With an elevation of 13,102 feet it is the second highest peak in New Mexico. It also has 4,001 feet of prominence, which gets the attention of some people. But wait there's more: it is the highpoint of not one but two counties in New Mexico -- Rio Arriba County and Mora County.

I started and ended the hike at the Jacks Creek TH, which is about 20 miles north of Pecos. The road is paved all the way to the TH, but it gets a bit rough in the last 8-10 miles. In fact, it is almost as bad as highway 87 from Strawberry to Winslow!

The hike was on several maintained trails up to about a mile from the summit. The trails are mostly in good shape, although there is a bit of deadfall at about mile 5 to mile 6.

Near the summit there are some talus slopes and some rock scrambling, and it gets ridiculously steep on the final push to the summit. As I was nearing the summit a couple of guys were coming up behind me, but one of them was struggling so they turned around.

The views at the summit are amazing, so it was worth the effort to get there.

I would say that this was probably the 3rd or 4th hardest hike that I have done. A sensible person would backpack about 7.5 miles to Pecos Baldy Lake; setup camp and spend the night; and then hike the remaining 4 miles to the summit in the morning. That is what most people seem to do.

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There was a decent showing of flowers throughout much of the hike
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 Tempe, AZ
Pecos Wilderness, NM 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Backpack39.49 Miles 7,880 AEG
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I had set my eye on backpacking in the Sangre de Cristos a while ago, and decided to do some research and try to find a good mix of things to see. The bonus of this area for me is that it's national forest, doesn't require permits, and allows dogs! After gathering a bunch of data, I finalized a 5-day, 4-night hike that covered 36 miles with about 10 more miles of side hikes.

On our first night, we re-evaluated the plan and decided to cut it one day shorter. This required a revision to the route and some trails we didn't have mapped out, but it all turned out great in the end, with the exception of missing out on visiting Pecos Falls.

Day 1 - 10 miles, 1000 feet, 2400aeg
We started from Jack's Creek TH and took the Hamilton Mesa Trail #249 toward Iron Gate Campground. The trail drops 500 feet and then parallels the Pecos River before climbing 1000 feet to the campground at 4 miles. From there we took Mora Flats Trail #250 down toward Mora Flats at about the 8 mile mark. There's a couple of great campsites here along the Rio Mora. Next we headed upstream on Rio Valdez Trail #224 to its intersection with Bob Grounds Trail #270, where we set up camp for the night at a great site a short distance upstream.

Day 2 - 9 miles, 1200 feet, 3000aeg

The day started with a moderate 500 foot climb along the Bob Grounds Trail. The trail climbs up onto Hamilton Mesa, and the upper part is on open grassy slopes where the tread is difficult to find in spots. This area featured my first wolf sighting, though at a quarter mile distance, which is probably just about how far away I'd prefer to be! The next 2+ miles led down to the Pecos River. This stretch of trail has not been maintained in a while and there were several thickets of deadfall that really slowed us down. We took a break at the river, before a quick side trip up to Beatty's Cabin. There are actually 3 cabins and they are nicely appointed and get regular use. There's even running water!

We headed upstream on Beatty's Trail #25 for a mile before turning onto Chimayosos Trail #246, which parallels the scenic Rito de los Chimayosos. This was an unplanned route based on our revised itinerary so we didn't really know where we would camp. We set our minds on a spot along the creek near the 11,000 foot contour and the junction with the Jack's Creek Trail. We were a bit disappointed with the options here, but didn't want to push on any further. There was running water, and enough flat ground for us to make a camp work. So we did!

Day 3 - 8 miles, 1200 feet, 2300aeg
Our morning began with a 1000 foot climb over 1.5 miles to the Skyline Trail. From there it was a mile west to the beautiful alpine Truchas Lakes, set 1500 feet below the crest of the Sangre de Cristos. We took a break here, and I was a little disappointed that our revised plan made this no longer one of our camping nights. It would be a fantastic place to spend a couple of nights! But a pair of backpackers at the lake informed us that the night before had been extremely windy, so perhaps we lucked out after all.

Skyline #251 heads south along the slopes of Truchas Peak for about 2.5 miles before emerging from the forest and heading up along the exposed grassy Trailriders Wall. The next two miles were some of the most scenic of the trip, as the Skyline Trail flirted with 12,000 feet and views in all directions were spectacular. (Side note, this is the only place on the entire trip that there was any hope of cell service at all.) The next mile drops about 500 feet to a scenic lake at the foot of East Pecos Baldy where we would make our camp for the night.

Day 4 - 7 miles, -2700 feet, 150aeg
The weather forecast had always called for a chance of showers on Sunday, so we were all prepared for that possibility. However, on Saturday when I had gotten cell service, I checked for an update and was not particularly pleased by the new information. Words including "severe storms" "damaging hail" "high wind" "lightning" and "possibly a tornado" were not the kinds of things I like to read about when I'm backpacking in the wilderness above 11,000 feet on the crest of a major mountain range.

So we decided to skip any side hikes and get off the mountain early in the day. Even that caught us off guard as we awoke to light drizzle. It was actually quite pleasant in retrospect. These mountains really need the rain, so a chilly, foggy, drizzly morning was actually nice. It made for a great hike out too, with gray skies contrasting the bright greens of the newly dampened trees around us.

We headed down on Jacks Creek Trail again, before meeting up with the lower portion of Beatty's Trail #25 which took us back to the trailhead and completed the loop. We finished on the horse trail rather than the hiking trail, which is about half a mile longer. Thunder rumbled, the rain picked up a bit, and we were on a mission to be done. Back in the truck by 11am!

With the trip cut a day short, we went into Santa Fe for a good lunch before heading back toward Arizona with plans to stop for the night along the way. During the drive we encountered that weather we didn't want to be on the mountain for, and I can unequivocally say we made the right decision! It was some of the heaviest rain and hail I have ever driven through, and only the second time I have ever stopped driving and taken refuge under a gas station canopy.

Final Thoughts
I really enjoyed this area and would go back in a heartbeat. There are a whole bunch of trails and beautiful streams, lakes, and amazing mountain peaks. All this and it's only about 8 hours of driving from the valley. I'd like to go back in the fall as the aspens here would add an extra touch of perfection to this place. Top 10!

Note: my mileage stats include extras not part of the base mileages listed above.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Pecos Wilderness, NM 
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This was a fantastic four days in NM. The Skyline Trail was definitely the highlight of the trip. I was glad to be able to take the dog on this one-- Lily's biggest trip to date. Glad we shaved it back from the original five days-- elevation is a killer with a heavy pack. Thanks for putting this together, Chums.
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Pecos Wilderness, NM 
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Backpack35.00 Miles 7,156 AEG
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Chumley was in charge and planned a solid trip to New Mexico. Our original plan was to spend five days in the wilderness but we cut it short one day due to weather and other factors.

We departed Phoenix on Wednesday after work and stayed in a hotel in Albuquerque. We woke on Thursday morning and drove the final two hours to the Jacks Creek Trailhead in the Santa Fe National Forest. The months of planning were behind us and it was go time!

Thursday, May 31st
We arrived to our trailhead and packed up and started the hike in. We started by dropping a few hundred feet to the Pecos River. We followed the river for a bit and then the trail makes a solid climb to the Iron Gate Campground. We took a break there and then continued to the northeast. The miles were tough with our very heavy packs loaded with five days worth of food and warm gear. With much effort we arrived at our camp and found a nice site situated along the Rio Valdez. We spent the rest of the evening relaxing around camp. There will be no campfires for us due to stage 2 fire restrictions. We all turned in relatively early because it was cold out.

Friday, June 1st
Our day two started with a solid climb up to the mesa above. Along the way Chumley and I saw a wolf roughly a half mile away. We questioned if it was a coyote but I saw it again 15 minutes later and it was way too big to be a coyote. We continued on and took a break just below Beatty's Cabin. During the break, Chumley and I hiked up to it. There are a few cabins and they are in great condition. It appears the forest services uses these.

We continued hike and gained elevation. We eventually selected a campsite in a drainage. Water was close by and our camp was comfortable. We settled in for the evening and it was warmer than our first night. We stayed up a bit later but were in bed by 10pm.

Saturday, June 2nd
Day three started with another solid climb. We were at high elevation of roughly 11k ft. With much effort we reached the Skyline Trail and then started our Traverse. We took a short break by Truchas Lake. From there we continued for our third night's camp. Chumley detoured to Truchas Peak while Kyle and I headed for the lake. Once there I made a loop around the lake and then picked a campsite by the trail. Chumley showed up a bit later and we settled in for another night. Chumley said some nasty weather was going to move in the next day so we decided to bail the next day.

Sunday, June 3rd
We woke early on Sunday and started packing up. It was an overcast day and it looked like rain could fall any second. We quickly packed up and the weather cooperated. Once packed, we started our return to the trailhead. The going was very easy as it was all downhill. We arrived back to the trailhead and then packed up and headed for Santa Fe where we grabbed lunch.


Final Thoughts
This was a great hike in an amazing area! I'd really like to return another time and see more of the wilderness. There is a lot to explore out there. Thanks Chumley for planning and thanks for driving!

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