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Camp Grasshopper- Redman Mesa- Sierra Ancha NW - 1 member in 4 triplogs has rated this an average 5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Mar 18 2021
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79 male
 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camp Grasshopper- Redman Mesa- Sierra Ancha NWGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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It had been a long ~six months since my last Camp Grasshopper Vehicle Camping / Hike Explore trip.

Originally, this early Spring'21 trip was planned for the remote Salome Wilderness - Thompson Mesa area at 4700ft elevation, but after a long day pre-trip 4WD in mid-February to confirm if we could safely drive out and back for a week period, it was decided we had better not risk it with my fully loaded and older 4-Runner :sweat: .

Our Plan B was to revisit for 7 nights / 8 days the even more remote, scenic, historic, and interesting Redman Mesa area (also bordering the Salome Wilderness, but from the north). For early Spring, this excellent Camp Grasshopper area (SW of Young, AZ, eight remote 4WD miles in off of Hwy 288) added an additional 1000ft camp elevation. This meant for me, colder nights/early mornings to prepare for with more risk of rain, muddy roads to drive, and possible snow. Mother Nature rules in our Wilderness and as it turned-out, she presented us with it all to include some beautiful hiking days as well.

This eight day trip included (for me) two full days of driving to/back home, Camp GH setup/teardown-pack which would allow me six days of area hike exploring and/or R&R Camp days which I also enjoy. Enjoyment of Camp GH cooking/cleaning was also a high priority for me, as always :D

On Oregon_Hiker and my first week trip visit here in April'19, we kind-of concluded that we had exhausted the local area of interesting off-trail hike exploring, but after some additional Google Earth viewing, we quickly came up with another full weeks worth of interesting, new areas (for us) to explore only requiring more 4WDing to reach our planned off-trail TH Starts.

Of the six full days I had available to hike-explore with Oregon_Hiker, I enjoyed staying in camp for a total of 2 days of the 6. One of the two was a bad weather day (for me) to include some cold on and off rain with snow showers at our 5734ft elevation campsite [ image ]

Larry and I had two "big bang" 4WDing and off-trail day hikes planned for this trip, the first of which we had 4WD clearance, safety issue concerns getting to the Park/TH Start, so we had to scrap that hike plan for now, but our second was a very rewarding and incredibly scenic, historic, PrestonSands'- :next: [ Greenback Peak ] We did a little different twist on the route to summit at 6535ft by beginning/ending our hike at the historic Dupont Cabin.

This trip we also had time to more fully explore and view and hike the lesser known and visited rugged and scenic Indian Camp Canyon Creek and on different days we enjoyed additional views from a new location of the very mysterious J R Ranch Complex- :next: [ J R Ranch - Copper Mtn 7.5 Topo ]

On exit day-3/25/21, our trip would not be complete without a celebration stop for lunch in Miami at [ image ] 👍
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Apr 17 2019
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Oregon_Hiker roaming around the campsite area looking for ancient "rock walls", stumbled onto a minimal (texting- send/receive only) live cell reception location just .12ml walk from the campsite at a 5765ft highpoint area.

One can walk a short .24ml out and back or connect with campsite entrance road FR2753 for a short .4ml loop.
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Apr 14 2019
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79 male
 Joined Dec 07 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Camp Grasshopper- Redman Mesa- Sierra Ancha NWGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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This was a most enjoyable 6 nights at Camp Grasshopper - Redman Mesa. The large alligator junipers and oak trees which dot this high mesa provide shade as well as shelter from the wind. There were plenty of places to explore on day hikes out of camp. We only drove to hiking destinations on two of the 6 days.

The Guide description mentions the historic JR Ranch which can be seen in the distance on hikes out of camp. I always like to research the history of the areas where I go hiking so have spent some time looking for historical info on the area. I have not been able to find much historical information on this ranch. However I did find that a Moroni Hicks took out a homestead patent on that land on 7/15/1921. That ranch may have been settled much earlier, possibly by someone else. The Homestead Act was passed in 1862. Early ranchers and pioneers settled on land that they knew was included under that Homestead Act. However they could not complete a homestead claim until the land had been surveyed. The first survey the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) conducted on the JR Ranch area was in 1911. It laid out the Township boundaries and provided reference survey markers to do a more detailed survey of actual homestead applications within that Township. The actual survey for the JR Ranch wasn’t done until 1920 and it showed a ranch house, well and out buildings located pretty much where the current buildings are located.

Some research on Moroni Hicks came up with a 1920 census entry that showed him divorced and living most likely at that ranch with his son and daughter-in-law and a step daughter. Other records show him living elsewhere a few years before and a few years after so perhaps he sold it not long after getting his land patent.

I was wondering why it was called the JR Ranch. Ranches were often named after their registered cattle brand. The name would stick with the ranch even after the original owner had moved on. I found historical records which said a John Calvin Robbins (born about 1855) “bought a cow outfit near Gisela in 1889 and established the JR brand”. Gisela is near Payson and about 19 miles from JR Ranch. It would have been the nearest town in 1889 other than Young which may not have been established as an official town at that time. JR continued to be involved in the “cattle business” for some time but as more of an investor who had others run the ranches. Sometime after 1889 he moved to Phoenix. Perhaps he had been the original owner of the JR Ranch.
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Apr 14 2019
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Camp Grasshopper- Redman Mesa- Sierra Ancha NWGlobe, AZ
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When I edit a new Camp Grasshopper HAZ-Hike Guide for my "Car Camping" locations, normally I don't post it as a new, "full detailed" HAZ Guide, but this location should be such a great find for all those who enjoy camping on a scenic high plateau at 5734ft with remoteness, historic & present ranching history, shade, solitude, enjoy in-Vehicle or more primitive Tent Camping, have a capable 4WD vehicle, and for those who also would enjoy numerous options for off-trail day hike exploration (both out and back and loops) from the campsite, all this is available at this recommended "Car Camping" location 👍

Oregon_Hiker and I first visited this Sierra Ancha Mountains NW (Tonto NF) "Redman Mesa" area back in late Nov'18. We had camped at a different [ Camp Grasshopper - Sierra Ancha N.W. - FR609 ] location which was closer to the Young Hwy 288. Having day hiked a number of off-trail areas back in Nov'18 which included this Redman Mesa area, we knew we wanted to return for more.

This trip Oregon_Hiker and I planned a 6nt/7day camp 4/14 to 4/20/19. This would give us five full days of day hike options. I was able to join Oregon_Hiker on planned hikes for 4 of the 5 full hike days. The fourth day of seven, I stayed in camp to enjoy doing nothing but Camp G/H "tinkering around" which I am very good at! Oregon_Hiker actually day hiked a total of 6 days, one of which included our arrival day on 4/14. He is always quick to set-up his minimal in-vehicle campsite area and then disappear before I am able to ask him to help setup my time consuming Camp Grasshopper :)

This was a most enjoyable and rewarding week away which I needed. We had a number of unexpected surprises and scenic finds on this trip and we will surely plan to return for more.

Please review the detailed HAZ-Hike Guide and our 4/14-4/19/19 triplogs, photosets, and Gps routes for more reasons to plan a trip here.

It is a long, but scenic drive to/from the PHX area to/from the Redman Mesa area, so it does make sense to stay awhile if it can be arranged.

We took a lunch break on our Sat-4/20 day drive back home and stopped in Miami for a little Mexican.. :D
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