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Apr 15 2023

ShatteredArm

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Joined Nov 30 2015
Phoenix, AZ

E L - Venezia loop, AZ

Run/Jog		Apr 15 2023
		ShatteredArm • Triplogs 356

Run/Jog	10.13 Miles	2,441 AEG

Run/Jog	10.13 Miles	3 Hrs 27 Mns	2.94 mph
	2,441 ft AEG

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Had been wanting to check out some of the more remote parts of the Northern Bradshaws, and saw what appeared to be a nice loop south of Mt Union. Bonus being that it provided an opportunity to take the Jeep out. Turns out I forgot there was a fire in this area just a year ago. Oh well.

E+L trail is actually pretty easy to follow up and over Ash Creek Ridge, despite the fire. Had no route finding challenges, although the Ash Creek side did not fare well in the fire. Full moonscape from about 1/3 of the way down the ridge until where the trail in Ash Creek leaves the bottom of the drainage. A few of the creek crossings are washed out, but other than that, the route finding was surprisingly easy considering the fire. Very little deadfall but I'd assume that will change.

Got to the end of E+L trail, and headed south along Ash Creek Ridge. Only saw one group of dirt bikes up there. Easy going except for the couple of grunt climbs up to high points. Once back to the E+L junction, I started back down towards the car, but decided it's hard to justify the trip out there for just ~9 miles, so I headed down Venezia trail. It was fine, but obvious it sees mostly dirt bike traffic. Started hearing gunfire just before dropping to Senator Hwy, was worried I was entering the crossfire but they were across the road and (presumably) shooting in the opposite direction. Didn't see any vehicles along Senator (other than a mid-sized Toyota SUV that didn't look like it had the capabilities to be in such a place, and was probably abandoned after they realized it).

Cool area overall, but now I'm kinda bummed I didn't get to see Ash Creek before the fire.

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Aug 01 2021

RoadrunnerAZ

Routes 105
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52 male

Joined Nov 14 2014
Phoenix, AZ

E Cross L Trail #281

Prescott, AZ

E Cross L Trail #281

Prescott, AZ

Hiking		Aug 01 2021
		RoadrunnerAZ • Triplogs 105

Hiking	4.23 Miles	987 AEG

Hiking	4.23 Miles	3 Hrs 38 Mns	1.41 mph
	987 ft AEG	38 Mns Break

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We started at E Cross L trailhead where we were the only car - in fact we didn't meet anyone else during our hike. E Cross L is quite overgrown and easy to lose especially at the higher elevations. We followed it as best we could to the intersection with the Venezia Trail which we took down to the Senator Highway. Venezia Trail is in much better shape compared to the E Cross L trail and easy to follow and then we closed the loop be hiking along Senator highway back to the trailhead.

Wildflowers Observation Moderate

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Jul 18 2015

chumley

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52 male

Joined Sep 18 2002
Tempe, AZ

Collins Venezia Senator ExL Loop, AZ

Hiking		Jul 18 2015
		chumley • Triplogs 1,993

Hiking	16.34 Miles	3,403 AEG

Hiking	16.34 Miles	7 Hrs 28 Mns	2.81 mph
	3,403 ft AEG	1 Hour 39 Mns Break

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John9L

The_Eagle

Bruce hadn't hiked the 1.5 mile Venezia trail and somehow we hiked 17 miles looking for it.

It was humid, but generally pleasant, mostly cloudy, and rain free. 9L got caught up in the poison ivy, and missed the waterfalls and swimming hole at the spring.

After a few detours we decided to cut a corner off the top of the route, and it resulted in a short but steep bushwhack from the top of Collins down to the Senator Highway. It wasn't at all prickly, so it was a worthwhile shortcut.

Venezia is a great trail and especially nice in cloudy or cooler weather. E Cross L is overgrown but can be followed if attentive. The GPS track helps. Collins is a pleasure. The road hike is great on Senator. Crooks Canyon is quite scenic. The hike on FR82 is not great, but the views make up for it. We missed the turn for 281, but once found, it was a really nice climb to the top of the ridge.

Notes: the Elouise Trail #306 doesn't exist ... at least if it does it's on well-marked private property. Don't plan a trip on that one.
HAZ lists the E Cross L Trail. One sign has it as E & L. The sign near Palace Station has it as E+L. So there's that.

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Jul 18 2015

The_Eagle

Guides 41
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69 male

Joined Jan 20 2009
Far NE Phoenix,

Crooks Canyon - Ash Creek Canyon Loop, AZ

Hiking		Jul 18 2015
		The_Eagle • Triplogs 2,760

Hiking	16.88 Miles	3,392 AEG

Hiking	16.88 Miles	7 Hrs 29 Mns		2.74 mph
	3,392 ft AEG	1 Hour 19 Mns Break	15 LBS Pack

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chumley

John9L

With a 70% chance of Rain, we were all ready to get soaked on the day. Only problem, Ma Nature just decided to crank up the humidity a bit. Chums wanted to try the area Joe and I had been to before and I wanted to click off the Venezia Trail and search south of Palace Station on FR82 and Crooks Canyon.

I showed the guys Palace Station, the Palace Station Cemetery and headed down tree covered Crooks Canyon. Nice area w/ lots of camping opportunities. I still need to head further south in the future. The Elouise Mine area was posted "No Tresspassing", but it didn't appear that anyone had driven up there in quite some time.

We made a turn to the west, past the Bodie Mine area. At this point we were climbing and out of the trees, so none of us felt the urge to hike down to the area.

After 9L had us pass up the Collins Trail, we back tracked to get back on this single track.

Up the E Cross L now, it climbs steadily for 3 miles, up 1300', to an old forest road. Once at the top, we opted to cut a couple of road miles off by scrambling down a "steepish" slope to the Senator.

The Venezia trail does offer some pretty views as it climbs 400' up from the Senator to meet the E Cross L Trail. Anyone hiking the E Cross L trail, should either hike it, ending at the TH by Palace Station, or take the official GPS Track. The lower sections are overgrown and it's easy to see where Joe and I got offtrack last time here.

Temps for the most part were 75 - 80 with scattered clouds, so it made it real nice for hiking. Good company, good conversation, fun times.

Thanks for driving Mr. Chums

Wildflowers Observation Isolated

	Spence Spring	Dry	Dry
	Nothing in the spring box. Pools in Crooks creek though.

	Starlight Canyon	Dry	Dry
	Dry at the Senator Highway

	White Well	26-50% full	26-50% full
	Water in the well, as well as trash from idiots. Crooks Creek offers plenty of filtering opportunities

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Jul 18 2015

John9L

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Scottsdale, AZ

Collins Venezia Senator ExL Loop, AZ

Hiking		Jul 18 2015
		John9L • Triplogs 1,647

Hiking	16.34 Miles	3,403 AEG

Hiking	16.34 Miles	7 Hrs 28 Mns	2.81 mph
	3,403 ft AEG	1 Hour 39 Mns Break

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chumley

The_Eagle

I got together with Chumley and The Eagle for a hike in the Bradshaws. We drove up on Saturday morning and started hiking making a clockwise loop. The first few miles were along road and went by fairly quickly. We explored some of the features of the area and continued our hike. We eventually left the road and hiked through a wooded section. There were some cool old buildings along the way. It must have been a cool place to live back in the day. This was a nice hike and I really enjoyed the historical aspect of this area.

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