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Camelback Summit - Cholla Trail - 110 members in 1046 triplogs have rated this an average 3.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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May 10 2025
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I played in a charity volleyball tournament in Scottsdale in the morning and threw some extra water and my boots in the truck because Camelback wasn't far away, and I wasn't going to waste an opportunity to hike when I was right next door. The tournament was done by early afternoon, so I headed over to Invergordon. I try hard to avoid Camelback unless friends/family are visiting and talk me into it, but I assumed that with the temperature hovering ~100° in the middle of the afternoon, crowds wouldn't be a problem, and wide-open parking confirmed that.

It had been ~6 years since I'd hiked Camelback, and the city has further idiot-proofed the trail, especially on the Cholla side. I didn't take more than a few steps on the way up where there wasn't a sign, a reflector, and/or a paint mark highlighting the route. If the trend continues, my next visit in a few years will include a City of Phoenix employee holding my hand and guiding me up the mountain Sherpa-style.

As expected, there weren't many people out. Took a quick drink break at the top, then down the Echo side, and back and up and over to Invergordon. Not a bad city hike, especially when it's not packed with people. I felt pretty good despite a morning of volleyball and eating half a pizza, and I suppose it's not a bad idea to start getting used to the heat again...definitely starting to feel like summer, even if the oven was only turned up to medium today.
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Jun 19 2024
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Camelback Summit - Cholla TrailPhoenix, AZ
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Early morning hike out at Camelback. Started on the Echo side but decided to hit the Cholla side while I was up there. It’s been almost 10 years since hiking on the Cholla side. Amazed at all the construction. Really enjoy the Cholla side. If the parking was more convenient I’d probably do this more often. Fun scramble at the top from this side. I was breaking in a new set of Altra Lone Peaks. They didn’t do as well as I would have hoped. I think my old shoes would have served me better. Finished up around 8am. Temps were still decent. Saw a chuckwalla :)
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We started later than we would have liked because there is now a gate to the Cholla trail. Somehow the gate opened, and we started. A short ways up, was a Phoenix P&R employee in a truck trying to make us all feel guilty for being in the park off hours. It seems the graceful thing for him to do would be to open the gate instead of playing a self-righteous sheriff of the Camelback Mt fiefdom.

It was strange only needing a headlamp for the very start of the climb up Camelback and for it to be light at the summit. After a short break, we headed down to Echo Canyon TH where we took another short break before continuing through Paradise Valley and over to Piestewa Peak, to the top area where we took a longer break, got water and ate. From there we headed towards Piestewa Peak.

I don't know what was going on with me up Piestewa. I had no strength and was having a terrible go of it. About 2/3 of the way up, at an area with the last bench, I pulled off and sat down for several minutes. I decided to not summit and headed back down to Dreamy Draw. I went pretty slow all the way and got to rest for a while waiting for the others to catch up.

After the rest, I decided to continue with them to North Mountain and decide what to do then. I felt fine on that stretch and was able to complete that section without trouble. Lunch was waiting for us at North Mountain, so there was good food and more rest. I decided to try to complete the rest of the hike. I kept things steady up North Mountain and didn't get too far behind. I was fine from there to the start of the climb up Shaw Butte. Again, I kept things steady and wasn't too far behind to the summit, where we all regrouped before heading down to the North Mountain Visitor Center.

After another rest there, we headed off to Lookout Mountain. It was getting dark on the climb up Lookout and we needed to pull our headlamps out when we reached the steep stuff. We made it to the summit and were happy there was no more climbing, just the descent to the trailhead where Tequila and beer was waiting.

There're two gaps on my route. The first is from where I stopped on Piestewa Peak to close to Dreamy Draw. The second is from the Lookout Mountain summit to the parking lot.
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Jan 06 2024
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Camelback Double, AZ 
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Did an over and back on Camelback, starting from the Cholla side. I have not done this hike in years (generally lacking a desire to be with the masses). I embraced it today though.

The upgrades and approach from Cholla is nice, with the restroom facilities and water, etc. The route up is more defined with the blue reflectors as well.

On the way down Echo, I took a side trip at the saddle to watch a few rock climbers.

I also skirted the west side, from the small loop that departs from the Echo Trailhead. The route eventually peters out and I returned to go back over.

Lots of folks out enjoying the nice 'winter" weather.
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I've rock climbed many times at Camelback, but only hiked to the summit once before today. Started at Cholla TH, up, over, down and then back for the doublet (brief beer break). I gave a guy and his grandson some water on the second descent after we coaxed him to turn back. They only had a pint capacity. I doubt they would've made it without more assistance, if they'd gone for the summit. Extreme heat restrictions 100% progress. :sweat:
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Camel toe2toe starting on the Cholla side - really fun hike! It was fun to experience the Echo side with all the commotion and then get to go back to the Cholla side with mostly quiet. Cool little contrast of a hike.
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Good hike, always sliding on gravel on the way down tho. Few people compared with the other side.
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checked out the refurbished cholla access/trail this afternoon
nice to hover over a prison toilet instead of peeing in the bushes
trail is smoother in places, steps have been added, lots of blue plastic markers above the helicopter pad
not many people today, had long stretches to myself
fun going up, slow going down
good experience, and i'll be doing this occasionally for a workout hike
hadn't been on this trail in five years :o
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Beautiful day. Went up the new Cholla Trail, down the Echo Canyon Trail, then looped back around to the Cholla trailhead on the roads, looking at some of the houses along the way. Crowds not too bad on the Cholla and Echo trails. About 25-30 people hanging out at the summit. Fewer people than expected. Nice to get outside. Perfect temperature. Should've brought sunscreen.
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Did the double today. Trying to get back into shape and this was a good choice. Barely any people on Cholla and not much on Echo starting out, but got busy as we're finishing. Went up Echo, down Cholla, up Cholla, and back down Echo. I like the improvements on Cholla. I still prefer Cholla over Echo, the new facilities were a good addition.
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Well, Joe’s September 30th triplog sums the hike up perfecty! This was actually my first time EVER on the Cholla side. My friends make fun of me for avoiding Camelback like the plague but fighting for parking when I just want a quick hike just doesn’t appeal to me. And that’s why I was excited to finally try the Cholla side now that it reopened.

It’s a cool little hike. The ridgeline section is totally protected but it definitely messed with my head a few times with the drops on both sides. Lots of fun “climby” parts.

With that said, I’m 1000% sticking with the Pie moving forward! Camelback is not my vibe. I probably said “hi, good morning, etc.” to about 30 people during this hike. Most people completely ignored that I spoke & didn’t make eye contact, a few people made a noise in response or looked at me but didn’t respond, ONE woman said “hi” and smiled. It was a wonderful treat after so much coldness. Maybe people are used to seeing everyone up there as a potential threat to their future access & feel uppity when they fought & won the parking war. Idk. Whatever the reason, I forgot how unwelcoming & unfriendly people seem to be on Camelback & I’m going back to my avoidance like the plague. Glad I finally got to experience the Cholla side though!
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T'was the grand reopening of Cholla. I used to love this trail, not so much anymore due to fall chances. It's only been closed for two years but it seems like forever based on the number of people that have asked "is Cholla open!". Figured I best show up to update the guide page and compare to the reopening of Echo and Pie. Also, hearing excitement for Cholla goes back decades before I even understood it was a hiking trail.

Arrived way too early but it was nice to do nothing for a couple hours... Lol So we had a line waiting, with one or two camera crews from news station(s) going back and forth filming the line as if that was exciting. Based on surrounding conversations one in three needed to pee and everyone hoped they planted more bushes nearby.

They let us in just before sunrise and we all met up a tenth of a mile later at the three-slot restroom. Expected more slots but boy howdy anything here is a huge improvement, it was way overdue.

Not really crowded, I expected three times the turnout. The trail is super well marked now with blue reflectors. If anyone gets lost they had no business being here in the first place.

It was a nice morning and I had planned on two laps but had enough and went to the promised land.
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My once a year journey over to Camelback. The drive is just too awful for me to go there more often, not that I’d want to anyway. We headed up the the Echo Canyon side, down Cholla, then turned around and headed back over. Nice weather for this one, it never felt too warm in shorts and t-shirt. Lots of people out as expected, but we were able to get around most of them with little effort. Saw a couple of chuckwallas near the top of the Cholla side.
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I finally got a chance to hike the infamous Camelback Mountain in Phoenix. Now, why the label infamous? Well, not due to Camelback’s overwhelming difficulty (though the trails to the summit contain some challenge). Rather, infamous due to the desire of seemingly everybody to hike the mountain, even those who fall short on preparations, even to the point of needing a rescue.

And I was able to put a twist on my route. So what is the twist?

Well, on a standard jaunt, one likely climbs to the peak and back down on the same side as the ascent, and does so on the Echo Canyon side. Still standard, those with two cars can station one car at the far end, and journey up one side (say Echo Canyon) and down the other (Cholla), then use the stationed car to return. Less frequent, but still to be considered relatively standard, the intrepid can go up one side and down the other side, then up and down again back to their starting point.

This route starts the last two ways, up one side and down the other, here with travel up the Echo Canyon side trail, then down Cholla on the other side. Then, in the twist, this route travels back to the starting point not via a stationed car, or a re-ascent and descent, but via a walk (aka flat and even enough not to deserve the title “hike”) via city streets.

City streets? A walk? Not very nature like, and not terribly challenging. Why this diversion into the urban landscape?

Well, for one, perspective. As one ambles westward on the streets, mainly along East McDonald Drive on the north side, one sees a changing view of Camelback, catching its ruggedness, its grandeur, its subtle changing hues. And as one does so amble one can wonder how the mountain became composed of rock from geological periods hundreds of millions of years apart.

Another reason – a view of urban homesteading. Camelback, a least it lower flanks, for long periods escaped guardianship under law or park designation. Thus, luxury homes populate much of the bottom elevations. One can thus judge for themselves whether these homes meld architecture and nature (for example in a way Frank Lloyd Wright’s Falling Water house reasonably does), or on an opposite view scar the otherwise majestic upward sweep of the towering mountain.

Still another reason – a bit of speed. This route allows one to touch both trails on Camelback, without the time spent arranging for and then positioning two cars, or the time to go up and down twice. Using this route, on the spur of the moment, one can just pick up and hike/walk this route in three hours, plus and even minus.

Now note, on the day I took this, huge rains swept across the mountain first as I reached the peak, and then again as I stood on a ridge on Cholla. For both, I stopped and just hunkered down under a rain cover, choosing not to hike given the slipperly rocks, the somewhat high exposure, the howling wind, and of course a desire to not become drenched.

And unfortunately no pics. Sometimes, for me, taking pictures gets in the way of the experience. So I just hiked, leaving all photo gear untouched.
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Up down and then back up and down. Been up here a million times.. Had never done the whole mountain at once.. So we did it twice!
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It's been about 16 years since I last hiked this mountain. I'm good for another 16.

Camelback was the 2nd hike I did in Phoenix. It soon became a regular hike for me on Sundays, even in the summer. I hiked it so many times that I came to memorize every part of the trail, finally getting bored and bent on trying to make every hike I do have at least one new section of trail that I've never done. After so many years, going back and doing trails after a decade or more, it's almost like hiking the trail again for the first time. And I can also log it in on HAZ and record it with my GPS, storing the track in my computer.

I arrived at about 6am, finding only 2 spots left in the lower overflow parking lot. It added a little bit more mileage, which I didn't mind.

I think there were railroad ties on the very lower section, or at least big steps of some sort that I remember. That section has thankfully been regraded and is smoother. The railroad ties above are still there.

The steep bare rock section with the railings hasn't changed much. Neither has my approach. I used the railing like a rope if I was climbing, even going back down backwards. Kind of reminded me of Olympus last year just below the summit.

I forgot about the false summit as you get to the top. :pk:

Going down Cholla to the saddle is slow going, I think more so as I age. As I get older, choosing the route down is a matter of listening to my knees and looking for the least steep approach. Ironically, the longest slog of the downhill part is after it levels out and it meanders before reaching the bottom. Going back up seemed to take less time and was more enjoyable. My legs had warmed up by then and I kind of hit my stride. And then reality set in and I had to take a breather once or twice. Snapped a hiking pole just past the saddle and put that away. Got a lot of questions on the way up about going up twice in one day. Using my hands on this section on the way is even more fun than it was 16+ years ago.

Going back down Echo Canyon is the same slog it's always been. Careful with the footing, watch for scree, and get out of the way of the uphill hikers, even though the people behind me don't. :SB:

Still lots of chuckwallas on this mountain. More than I've seen anywhere else. You would think with the traffic it would chase them away. Maybe they're like the squirrels at the Grand Canyon that get used to looking for food from the tourists. :-k

The crowds don't seem to be any worse than they were 16-20 years ago. Noticed a lot of out of state hikers, which I guess is kind of cool. Nice that they get out to hike it. Also shows how well known it is. Very touristy vibe, like a lot of places in AZ. Got some strong whiffs of sunscreen at times. :lol:

Glad that in 20 years, this hike doesn't seem harder to do at all. Other than the downhill sections at times. I never timed myself before, but I think my overall time likely is more than it was in 2000 when I would do this.
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