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Kinder Crossing Trail #19 - 31 members in 74 triplogs have rated this an average 3.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 03 2024
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 AZ
Kinder - Horse - Pivot, AZ 
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Hiking12.50 Miles 1,764 AEG
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Every once in a while it's good to go north and hike. The temperature was nice relative to the valley. Bruce is showing signs of memory loss. He didn't remember this many downed trees, he didn't remember the water being this high, he didn't remember this much vegetation or course Bruce may have a different take on it. :lol: I suppose it's possible the conditions were different last time. We must have stepped and climbed over 100 trees but whose was counting. Definitely bring a GPS track for Kinder/Horse and if you're looking for poison ivy you may be looking up at it so familiarize what the underside of the leaf looks like. On the positive side the views are great, no one got lost, SR 87 remained open all day and it was fun exchanging digs. The side trip to Pivot Rock/Spring was good. The temperature had risen by then but it was a short hike. The rock doesn't actually pivot so you may need some WD-40 to break it loose. It was nice to catch up with Linda and Bruce. For the record, I had nothing to do with the Wally fire.
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Kinder - Horse - Pivot, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking12.50 Miles 1,764 AEG
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Spent some time in the high country to take these two on trails they've not traveled on before. The drive down FR95 is easy and mainly smooth and drive-able by any vehicle. FR95T requires HC. If no HC,park out by FR95 and it'll add .6 mile each way.

Down the Kinder Crossing Trail is a bit steep in places, but mild compared to what was to come. The first crossing of the East Verde is not totally obvious and always seems to take a few tries to find it.

We hiked across the camping area and it took a few tries to find a dry way across the next section. This area, at the entrance of Yeager Canyon, is a special area. We were able to find a dry path across.

That was the end of the dry and brush free sections. The section between the west and the climb out on the East Kinder trail was a lot more overgrown than in past hikes. There used to be use trails along this section. Now, wet crossings, crawdads and brush were the norm.

We mostly stayed on the faint trail for the climb out on the East Kinder Trail, except where downed trees forced a slight detour. The two track walk to the Horse Crossing trail was a nice respite.

The east side of Horse Crossing is now a cluster. I did this trail 14 years ago with Deb. I wouldn't even think about it now with her. This may be my last time. Blackened fallen trees from the Tinder fire become annoying fast. As does the trail hiding vegetation. Although climbing over the trees did earn Linda a new nickname.

I couldn't even find this sign from 3 years ago. [ photo ] . (I couldn't find anything on this group, or this guy, that fit. I'd love to send them this photo.)

The section in the East Verde from the East Horse Crossing trail to the West section, was non-existent. There used to be a well defined path through here.

We walked through the camp of a couple of fly fishermen that was on the lower beginning of the West Horse Crossing Trail. The trail up, was easy to follow with minimal trees to hop over.

Once up top and on the two track, it was clear sailing back to the Ru.

We were lucky to have clouds for the majority of the hike. It kept the temps very nice.

On the way back to Pine we stopped at Pivot Rock, because Wally said in his best Boy Scout leaders voice "That thing's going down!".

Good hiking with these two again... including Tyrone.
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My first real hike back in AZ, and Bruce thought I should ease into it. Wally and I carpooled from Mesa up to Bruce’s cabin, and we rode with Bruce from there to the Kinder trailhead. The final half mile of road is rough, but Subaruable, although might be a little tougher after rain. We passed one parked Tacoma, whose driver had wimped out.

The hike down to Kinder Crossing from the west was nice. Trail was easy to follow, rocky in places, but fine. At the water, Bruce declared to water level to be higher than usual, making his desired crossing point deeper than expected. It would have been a swim, not a wade. We wandered back and forth, looking for a better crossing, and also found the two hikers from the Tacoma, who were also looking for a way across. We finally carefully scrambled across some rocks, making it to the other side, leaving behind the two hikers who were apparently made of sugar and unwilling to risk getting wet.

Vegetation was thick along the creek, lots of pushing thru brush. Lots of hidden holes in the ground, making for unstable footing in many places. We didn’t bother with keeping our feet dry, and the cold water felt good on the thorn scratched legs.

The trail was pretty vague heading up the east access trail. Again, lots of brush, and downed trees higher up. High cloud cover most of the day was much appreciated. Walking the forest roads over to the east access for Horse Crossing went by quickly.

Descending the east Horse Crossing trail was another adventure in almost non-existent trail, thorny vegetation, and downed trees. Climbing over some of the burnt trees made me glad I was already wearing black. Probably the toughest section of the day.

Once at the water, we splashed thru it again, then fought more brush to get over to the trail leading west. The climb out was on a fairly visible trail and mostly clear. Clouds were building, but none were an imminent threat. Again, once up top, it was easy road walking to complete the loop. It was a nice loop, but would definitely benefit from some trail clearing.
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Headed to to the high country to get away from the Phoenix heat. We parked on FR-95T just after the turnoff from FR-95, which it turned out was 0.7 miles before the actual trailhead. It was approximately 85°, but nicer than the 108° in Phoenix.

When we arrived, Gen discovered that she had forgotten her shoes, and tried to use this as an excuse to cancel the hike. 😂 We ended up both using cheap flip-flops.

We walked along FR-95T for 0.7 miles to the trailhead, then along the canyon and down the switchbacks. There was an ugly burned area, but it became nicer as we approached the creek. The flip-flops slowed us down a little on some of the steeper rockier descents, but overall it wasn't too bad.

The creek was beautiful and refreshing. We jumped in and played at the first swimming hole. Crawdads were everywhere and some of them were HUGE. I reassured Gen that they would retreat from our feet, but some of them were surprisingly aggressive. 😱 After cooling off, we got out, walked along the creek to the little cascades, and played around there.

We then headed further up along the creek on use trails, with a few crossings along the way. When we reached the spot where the trail exits the canyon to the east, we turned around and headed back. While taking a pic of the cascades, I slipped on a slick rock, fell into the water, got my phone wet, and got attacked mercilessly by some of the crawdads. Everything turned out OK, and we headed back out without further incident. When we reached the first swimming hole, there was an extended family of about 12 people playing there.

Saw about 5 other people total along the creek. This is a beautiful, peaceful area, and a great spot to cool off from the Phoenix heat. Will definitely return. With shoes.
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Kinder Crossing - Horse Crossing Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
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I had a route all drawn up to check out the Kinder burn from the Tinder fire and check out some new areas.

At the TH, I realized I never downloaded it to Route Scout.

So plan B
I'd do the the Kinder/Horse Crossing Loop that I'd done quite a while ago... from memory.

The burn is quite obvious as soon as you hit the TH. If you look to the positive in everything, the fire opened up the views, but there were so many trees burned from a totally needless act.

I got to the creek and there were a couple of campsites in use. A hi and a wave returned blank stares.
For the most part there are use trails to follow in the creek bed. I made my way over to the Kinder Crossing East section and made my way up the other side of the canyon. This trail is relatively easy to follow to the top.

From here, It is a couple of FR's to get to the Horse Crossing Trail. There's a sign out by the road that points to where the trail begins, but is is not very obvious. I followed an old 2 track, thinking that was the way to the trail, but when I got close to the rim, it didn't look right. I went off trail to the north until I got to the correct area. It was faint, but I picked up the trail.

Once back in ECC, the trail became more overgrown. I couldn't find the spot to cross to keep my feet dry, so I just plodded across. I made a stop at the pools by the campsite at the bottom of Horse Creek Crossing and then made my way up. The burn here looked to be worse.

Up top and on another FR, I made a call to take a short cut back to the car. I was recording the track I was hiking, so I could see where I started and where I needed to go. But there were no maps on the phone. I knew this wasn't what I was looking to do, when I could see the canyon rim above me across the way. This actually was one of the cool parts of the day. I decided to follow it down and see how far I could get. I made it close to ECC, before hitting a 40' dryfall. It looked like I could have gotten around to the right, but being alone and needing to get back because we had friends coming over to watch the game (damn Suns), I bailed. A steep scurry to the top of the canyon, and I was back to the car.
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This weekend, I went to check out some of the East Clear Creek trails to see how they fared the Tinder Fire of May 2018.

Horse Crossing: the trail down to the creek is severely burned. The trail is mostly still easy to follow, but I did lose the trail a couple times as I got nearer to the creek. The creek bottom has some burned and some unaffected areas. The water in the creek was very cloudy and dirty. I hiked down-creek a couple miles before turning around. Hiking back out was much hotter without the shade. I only saw 2 other people.

Kinder Crossing: the road to the trailhead is same as pre-fire. The hike down to the creek seems mostly unchanged, only a couple small burned areas. Conditions along the creek are a mix of burned and unaffected areas. I went down creek almost to the Horse Crossing trail and then turned around. Water along this stretch was also very cloudy and dirty. I saw many people on this hike, including a huge group of backpackers (Scouts? Church or community group?).

East Clear Creek looked better than I expected after the Tinder Fire. I thought the whole area was going to be severely burned. I'm no fire expert and I couldn't tell where the fire originated. The area along the creek seemed more overgrown than what I remember. I'm not sure what caused the poor water quality in East Clear Creek - the Tinder Fire, the more recent fire South of the area, monsoon rains? It made the creek crossings much more difficult as I couldn't see what I was stepping on. The water looks much clearer in the other post-Tinder Fire photoset.

I used to frequently fish East Clear Creek, and I saw absolutely zero signs of fish activity in the creek. The only signs of life in the water I saw were some crawdads and some ducks.

When I was a couple of miles down-creek of the Horse Crossing trail, I ran into a particularly brushy section. I couldn't see much besides the tall brush when I heard something growl at me (or make some kind of noise). Startled me yelled at the startled animal, and then I heard it run away through the brush and splash across the creek. About a 1/4 mile later, I saw a dark animal way on the other side of the creek - I'm guessing this could be the same animal. It's in my photoset. My first thought was "bear", but after looking at it more closely, I think it may have been a dog. It stared at me for 10 or 15 seconds before turning and running away. If it was a dog, I didn't see any people nearby. The next day I ran into a set of bear tracks.
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Weekend in Pine with wife and friends. It was already late in the day, but we wanted to get out and enjoy a little dab of outdoors. I had never been to the Kinder Crossing trail, so we made our way there. Parked at the spot where most people park (short of the official trailhead). We hiked down to the trailhead, admired the lookout and views from there then headed back. Really not much of a hike, just more of a scouting trip. Dinner and wine back at the cabin sounded like a better way of spending the rest of the day.
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What better what to spend a Monday than inside a great Rim Country canyon during the official start of monsoon season!
Honestly thought lower Yeager was going to be a waterpark because the portion of it I completed a few miles upstream a couple weeks ago had flowing water and countless large perennial pools one could only dream of but instead the lower portion of YC was waterless but still very scenic and narrow.
Believe we both saw our first Mexican spotted owl and later Buford bumped a big bull elk in the bottom of Yeager that ran up a near vertical canyon wall within seconds, always humbling to see the power and grace of those beasts.
We returned to ECC, enjoyed the slip and slide and swam (leeches included) until the flirt of a thunderstorm rolled over which also brought in the smoke from the nearby Hart fire.
Great day of solitude in a place that I’ve kind of avoided for its popularity but certainly eager to explore more.
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I love this trail. My wife and I used to backpack here with our dogs. We are visiting Arizona again for a few months and decided to visit this trail again...sadly our doggies are too old to make the hike. Looks like this trail hasn't got much use in the past few years. The road in is much worse than I remember it, and the trail head signs were gone...otherwise its still a beautiful hike. I tried fly fishing but the wind was too much for more poor casting skills.
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Took my wife, daughters, and faithful canine up to Kinder Crossing to try our hand at catching some crawdads. I had wanted to do this since hiking nearby over a decade ago and then later seeing pics others posted of the crawdads on HAZ.

The hike was perhaps a bit more than any of my companions was ready for (except the dog) but everyone did enjoy lounging and exploring the area around the creek and having a little lunch in the peace of nature.

No luck on the crawdads this day though. I went armed with a homemade trap, fishing line, treble hooks, some bait, and a net (as advised by others) but could not find a single one of those little mud buggers. I suppose that is a good thing-- as I had spent most of the previous day preaching to my kids about how these things were invasive creatures and, by boiling them with Old Bay seasoning, we would be doing our part to help Mother Nature-- but we were all admittedly a bit crestfallen to not have anything in our pot at the end of the day.

Did I miss the right spot or right time of year for the crawdads at Kinder though? Every triplog on HAZ seems to indicate pools teeming with angry mini-lobsters, claws up and ready to attack would-be swimmers. We were not camping so I had limited time but I searched several pools over a solid hour and could not locate any of them.
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A group of us did this as a shuttle hike from Kinder Crossing to Horse Crossing. Doug, Dennis, Mark, Mike, Paul Riley and I pushed off from the Kinder Crossing Trailhead at 9:45 in the morning with the temperatures in the low 70's. Clear and sunny. The water was cold but not numbing. We followed the tail down the east side of the creek for the most part but spent a lot of time just slogging down the creek. Lots of crawfish. About 200 yards before the actual bottom of the Horse Crossing trail we came across a trail sign nailed to a tree. Thinking that this was a side trail that would hook up with the main trail we followed it up the ridge. Dumb. It must have been an old sign or just nailed there by somebody because there was no trail going up. We scrambled up to the first bench and then shortly thereafter intersected the actual trail. We'd been up late the night before and consumed a few adult beverages so I struggled a bit on the way up and finished about 10 minutes behind the rest of the guys. All told, the hike came in at 4.1 miles with 640 feet of AEG in 2 hours and 50 minutes. A great day!
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Labor Day weekend, and we were the only ones here. The cascade is a great place to chill in the summer time! Especially if you're looking for something easy and close to the highway.

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Dry at the confluence. However, ECC was flowing moderately. Baseflow for summer season.
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Had to be in Pine this a.m. so I decided to drive a little further north and hike this quick loop with the pooch. Conditions were perfect and in the 60s upon arrival. The road to the Kinder TH (95T I believe) was a little muddy but in good shape for this time of year. The trail is in good shape as well. We had a few bushwacking sections as we made our way along ECC, nothing to obstructive though. Lots of water present and the creek is lined with various wildflowers. Had a few wet crossings along the way. Rosie was in heaven chasing bugs and splashing around. Some intimidating looking clouds scooted by us but stayed far enough to keep us dry as we exited the canyon. The road walk back to the vehicle was enjoyable. Didn't see a single camper, hiker or even vehicle all day. Nice to have a busy place all to ourselves. FR513B was in bad shape being rutted out and full of big puddles. Cows everywhere too. Made it back to the vehicle as the skies really started to get dark. Got to the 87 in time for a downpour that lasted almost until Strawberry. Well timed and a gorgeous day along ECC.
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I threw out a bunch of options this week and this was the one that stuck. The 6.5 mile drive on FR95 is more like the I-95 "expressway". You could probably drive a sports car on it right now.

Tall Pines and water were the theme for the day. We were the first vehicle in the 17 space paved parking. We were in the creek almost immediately. For the first 6.8 miles, we were able to cross or bypass water, never getting deeper than our knees. The Canyons and views are real sweet here. At about the 4 mile mark, you hit the western section of the Kinder Crossing Trail #19. surprisingly, we never saw anyone here.

At Horse Crossing Trail #20, Chums topped off his water and we made the short lived .8 mile 500+ ft climb to FR513B above.

Next it's off to the Moqui Lookout tower. We had a discussion with Forest Service Law enforcement as to why the road/gate was closed to the tower. We determined that no "Suspicious Package" under the lookout tower was going to stop us. The Suspicious Package ended up being someones lunch.

The views from this tower were especially good. Some of the best I've seen from this Keeps 132' tall, 14' x 14' perch.

The potentially tricky part of the day was next. We had to scrabble off the top of the Rim and get down to the CC Cragin Reservoir. Chums overlaid the Property map on my GPS track and we were able to skirt the Private Property and find an old unmarked "use road", I'd seen on the Satellite Views. It worked out better than expected.

We stopped and checked out the Blue Ridge Dam for a bit and made our final push down ECC back to the vehicle. On this stretch, we had out deepest crossing of the day, up to our waist. The 2.5 miles clicked off pretty quickly.

Temps on the Garmin recorded 70 for a low, to the mid 90's a few times on the day. When in the wind, shade and/or water, it was very comfortable.
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Kinder Crossing Trail #19 - East AccessPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Backpack7.50 Miles 584 AEG
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Made it in to a good campsite Friday night, just down the road a bit from Kinder Crossing Trail on the east side. There's a pretty cool campsite right at the trailhead, but I chose one a bit further back down the road.
Dropped down the trail Saturday morning and headed downstream. There are numerous campsites along the creek as you might expect. I chose a nice one with a huge deep hole, downstream about a mile below Horse Crossing trail. I saw a few people on Saturday that came down Horse Crossing, and two set up camp about a 1/2 mile downstream from me, at the site with the cobblestone pathway.
Hiking out Sunday was uneventful and I saw no one at all. The place was surprisingly empty given the heat and great swimming and fishing spots along this creek.

I think further exploration downstream, possibly to Leonard Canyon is in order for a future trip.
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Aug 17 2014
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 Anthem, AZ
Kinder Crossing Trail #19Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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LostTriplogs 67
Hiking2.05 Miles 584 AEG
Hiking2.05 Miles   1 Hour   46 Mns   1.95 mph
584 ft AEG      43 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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Wanted to get a quick hike in before the thunderstorms fired up. It's been about five years since I last did this trail and it was nice to come back. A real scenic spot along East Clear Creek awaits at the bottom. I tried to do some exploring up and down the creek, but brush blocked both directions. Didn't want to turn a quick hike into an all day affair, so I hung out at the bottom for a while then headed out. Lots of crawdads in the creek.
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Quite a bit more than I was expecting
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Aug 09 2014
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Kinder Horse Loop, AZ 
Kinder Horse Loop, AZ
 
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John9LTriplogs 1,647
Hiking10.69 Miles 1,839 AEG
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Nice day spent in the high country. Our original plan was to follow East Clear Creek to the north and return via the Horse Crossing Trail. We started hiking up the creek and found the vegetation very thick and difficult. On top of the that the creek was flowing high and fast. We decided to change our plan and make a loop using forest roads. This turned out to be a great option. This loop involved Kinder Crossing and Horse Crossing. We had to cross the creek twice and the water came up to our thighs. It was very cold, my legs were numb by the time I reached the other side. Besides that everything was straightforward. The trails leading to and from both crossings are in good shape and easy to follow. They're steep though. Nice day in the cooler temps!
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