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Aug 22 2025
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Forest Road #11 Rock Creek, AZ 
Forest Road #11 Rock Creek, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking4.10 Miles 430 AEG
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I was a bit beat after mountain-biking 65+ miles over 4 straight days, including 30 minutes picking up trash along our adopted mile of Bush Highway, so I almost decided to take a PTO day of sorts.

Ok, so what should I do? Where should I go?

After taking a few minutes to come up with something worthy of a hike on by now a fast-warming day, I thought, what the heck, I'll check out one of the, shall we say, possibly questionably labeled location posted on Google Maps.

All it required was a 32-mile drive, including a mile on a well-eroded dirt road to the spot I chose to limit the hiking distance should the temperature get out-of-hand. It was only .2 mile to the supposed location so it worked out just right.

Ok, so just which location was I checking out?
The Paula Hopper Memorial Swing along Rock Creek just off of Forest Road #11, which I had mentioned on the Knoll Lake island forum thread.

So what did I find?
I found everything that I expected... Nothing!
I spent a dozen minutes criss-crossing back-and-forth while racking up a quarter-mile yet found nothing that could be construed as a memorial, let alone a swing. If anything it was just an area where cattle had trampled pretty-much every foot of ground not held by vegetation of some sort, whether a tree or salt cedar bush, etc..

Something ventured, nothing gained... oh wait, I gained knowledge of something that does not or never did exist.

Ok, while I had driven FR #11 a number of times previously, I had never hiked parallel to this (North) portion so I might as well wander around a bit, who knows what I may encounter.

With a clear sky the sun was soon making itself well-known so I decided to close a loop of hiking on either side of Forest Road #11, cruise by the corral and maybe check out Mud Springs, which was close to the car.

On the return I left FR #11 to climb up a hill for a view which which overlook the location of the supposed memorial and I took photos from various locations to show there was nothing to see here.

At the corral the calves (or younger cattle anyway) were camera shy while the older ones essentially ignored me.

One item that caught my eye was a Priefert Cattle Squeezer so of course I had to take a photo of it.
(Back home I went down a short, but VERY interesting rabbit-hole to get the full story about the Preifert Family Legacy, all it took was a search for "Priefert")

Last thing to address... Mud Springs. Nope, I did NOT venture close enough to determine if there was any water flow. At no point did I see an easy route to get closer without having to cross two separate barbed-wire fences. Both were very tight and while the 86° start was ok, it was now 101° and I was thoroughly drenched in sweat so it was time to end this charade.

NOTE: About the Google Map edits... just for you @chumley : wink :
After finding absolutely nothing to confirm any memorial, I decided to see how responsive Google is to any map edits. So, I selected the location, selected "make edit" then chose "does not exist" (the choice is actually "does not exist or never has") and it said the edit would be reviewed within 24-48 hours. And to my surprise, within a few hours I received an email stating the edit was accepted and should be 'live' within 24 hours.

Ok... while it very likely WAS live within 24 hours, it was 3 days later before I saw the location had been removed (on Google AND HAZ Route Editor), which may have been because I had not cleared the browser cache.

So, whether a human or AI did the job, it appears Google is very responsive. Oh, yeah, we'll have to see if the location stays gone or if whoever put it there in the first place adds it back.
To be determined...
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Alley Loop CW, AZ 
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Another one of our usual routes.
Had a breeze so 73-89° seemed fine. (to me, anyway)
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Aug 16 2025
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Phon Interpretive CCW, AZ 
Phon Interpretive CCW, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking4.30 Miles 330 AEG
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Started at the Phon d Sutton Mid Mountain Parking Lot and headed West along a social trail toward the Phon D Sutton Rec Site, hung a left onto the West part of the Salt Interpretive trail, then completing a CCW loop back to the start along other social (old horse) trail.
Temps were ok... 72-94°
Nothing new/different/worthy of photos so none taken.
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Aug 15 2025
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Salt #100 On-Off Trail, AZ 
Salt #100 On-Off Trail, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking3.70 Miles 309 AEG
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A late start due mainly to lack of motivation but due to overnight rain I had a reason to be out on this distinctly humid morning... to check the rain gauge at the junction of Coon Bluff Road & Bush Highway.

Although I had a reason to be out here, I still wasn't feeling that motivated so I just set off wandering along what turned out to be a somewhat clockwise elongated loop, more off-trail than on, but at least I crossed the Salt River #100 trail on a few occasions.

As many times as I've wandered in this area, I did manage to find things unknown to me before... like the capped-pipe of what I'd guess would be an underground water tank. I'll have to bring my pipe wrench and drop-line along sometime to open it and see how deep it may be... and if there is any water in it. (There is another capped pipe within a half-mile I'm aware of that I keep thinking of doing the same thing but have not as yet done so... maybe the time is nigh?)

I almost forgot to take the requisite documentary photo of the rain gauge before emptying it. At 0.665" precipitation overnight I was a bit surprised as it was double what we had about 8 miles to the South.
Temps were 78-93°
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Aug 13 2025
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Phon Interpretive CCW, AZ 
Phon Interpretive CCW, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking4.00 Miles 340 AEG
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With a late start and temps climbing fast it was a given I'd be doing this solo.
Temps went from 91° to 104° but being dressed for it and with an ever present breeze it didn't feel that harsh... even with adding ascent to the ridge in the direct sun.

Looks like someone driving out Phon D Sutton Road crashed into the steel pipe fence right alongside the road in the staging area just off Bush Highway.
Occam's Razor = alcohol + driving
(Actually it's hard for me to believe just how many crashes there have been in the last 6 months along Bush Highway between the canal crossing and the Salt River at Blue Point... far more than usual)
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Aug 12 2025
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Pivot Canyon Rock & Spring via FR 149, AZ 
Pivot Canyon Rock & Spring via FR 149, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking7.10 Miles 838 AEG
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Somewhat of a rerun of our hike just over a month ago, the main changes being:

1. A co-worker of Tracey's tagged along for a new experience with a couple of baby boomers.
(Rachel was less than half Tracey's age and a few years older than 1/3 my age)

2. We took the high road (old FR 6304) on the way out so as to take our lunch break by the huge boulder in the center of the canyon on the return trip.
* Although (like last trip) we did go East on the long-closed FR 9386T from junction with FR 6304, we only went far enough to where we saw all the elk climbing the slope to the North, which is where we climbed this trip. Why would we do that, you ask?

3. Well, in preparing this trip with hopes of finding something new and different to check out, using Route Editor I found there was a water tank up there, which may have been why the elk went that way?

4. What did we find? The water tank at the West end of the old FR 6306... ok, so at the moment it was a dry tank.

5. Since the slope back down to FR 6304 was steep with plenty of thorny vegetation, we wandered off-trail from the tank more-or-less in the direction of where we would cross FR 616. In actuality, we wandered some distance NE to avoid a few deep drainages on the way to FR 616.
(After all, I didn't scare Rachel off with intensive off-trail stuff so soon.)

6. The slope down to FR 616 was steep but thankfully the elk deemed it worthy of providing a route with switch-backs so the likelihood of a tumble on the descent was negligible.

From that point on, we followed the same route to Pivot Rock and Pivot Rock Spring as we did a month ago. Shortly before reaching the spring we met three elderly (older than me?) gentlemen, who had just visited the spring. The three, who mentioned they were surprised by the encounter, after asking where we were from, said they were from Tempe, Ahwatukee and Scottsdale.

Back to changes:
7. Rather than continuing past and above the spring and following FR 616 back to the canyon as we did last month, we retraced our steps back past Pivot Rock and returned to FR 616 along the canyon floor.

8. We took Rachel through the tunnel under FR 616... only after we assured her there were no bees.

9. We stayed along the canyon floor until reaching the massive boulder with trees growing out of it at 34.47777 -111.405520, where we stopped for our lunch. During our break we heard what sounded like a small frog croaking, seemingly within feet of us, but being unable to locate it before finishing our break we figured oh, well and continued on.

The rest of the hike back to the trailhead adjacent to the black mountain, while completely uneventful, wasn't boring in the least.
Overall it was a very enjoyable hike, with pleasing 68-80° temps.
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Aspen #411 Carr Lake #412 CCW, AZ 
Aspen #411 Carr Lake #412 CCW, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking8.50 Miles 522 AEG
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Seeking another mid-week trip to the Rim for cooler temps, and today was just right @ 72-82°F.

Only after the hike last week did I realize we had covered that ground a few times before. So today I was looking to cover totally new ground, and with as much above the Rim that we have NOT covered, the biggest task was narrowing down the options. Once I chose where to start it was a matter of laying out a lasso loop which would hit a number of different trails/roads with a distance in the 7-8 mile range, which is what I've grown most comfortable with.

Nothing super special about this hike... it's a hike in the pines at 7500' of elevation.
We started heading North on Aspen Trail, onto Fern Gully, took left at Carr Lake Trail, then onto FR 9350 for rim views and back to the car.

Kind of weird... I only recalled one Aspen tree while on the Aspen Trail, and almost NO ferns along Fern Gully. Oh yeah, there was one area chock full of ferns on Aspen Trail well before reaching Fern Gully. Go figure!

Overall a nice 4 hour hike coupled with a 4 hour round-trip drive... home in time for Tracey to catch up on yard work.
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Bush Off-Trail Figure 8, AZ 
Bush Off-Trail Figure 8, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
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Late start so it was a bit warmer at 88-104°F but the breeze made it ok.
Started on the East side of Bush Highway and ended on the West, pretty much avoiding trails except for when crossing them.

Near the end I found a DJI Mini 4 Pro drone in a small bush. Thinking it had crash-landed, I expected to see footage of the local area on the 256 GB SDXC card. But with tons of photos and hand-held videos from mid-March of this year at what appeared to be a Hispanic birthday bash down in Cancun, I'm thinking it may have been stolen. And now, without a controller it is just a lightweight (256 gram) door stop.

After seeing the track in BaseCamp along with probably hundreds in the area over 2 decades I managed to successfully wander in places I never had before... which was quite a surprise to me. But then again, wandering somewhat aimlessly is how I manage to come across items like the drone.
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Alley Loop CCW, AZ 
Alley Loop CCW, AZ
 
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Hiking4.00 Miles 426 AEG
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426 ft AEG12 LBS Pack
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7 am start made for slightly warmer temps: 86-95° F
Felt much nicer going downhill on Scorpion than when doing loop CW.
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Jul 26 2025
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Alley Loop CCW, AZ 
Alley Loop CCW, AZ
 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking4.00 Miles 426 AEG
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Out early enough for temps to stay 78-90° F
Slight variation from the route we used in April.
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235 Road TrailPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking8.60 Miles 320 AEG
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With Friday, Saturday and Sunday being available to us, we sought a Rim hike but wishing to avoid the usual atrocious weekend traffic through Payson, Friday was the obvious choice.

Ok, so what Rim hike? Again combing the archives I found we had hiked 235 Road Trail a full 11 years prior, so why not do a return trip for comparison?

Unfortunately, I have to include a massive spoiler right up front... the 'comparison' will not come from 11 years ago but within 2 years.

AFTER we got home from this hike, realizing more than a few things appeared quite familiar, I took a look at a map overview of ALL the hikes we had done in the vicinity. And guess what? Just two years ago we actually hiked the half the trail North and all of it back South as part of the return leg of our hike North up Willow Springs Canyon from the lake.

So... although I expected to compare the trail condition today with what we encountered in 2014, the huge amount of change actually happened within the last two years, possibly just a year.

What were the changes?
1. It was obvious much of the road had been graded to full-width, whereas previously the last half was barely one vehicle width, and even then the branches of very young pines encroached on the road. The reason for the grading comes as a result of #2 below.
2. There had been a massive amount of clearing in many areas on either side of the road and over a large area, leaving a big mess of shredded trees.

As a result of #1 the initial Northward leg of the hike was pretty much a boring road-walk, and for me, somewhat painful as well... walking for some distance at the same pace with no variation of tread and my hips complain loudly. (Concrete sidewalks? A few hundred feet and it's already a problem)

Although boring, the road walk provided a few bonuses...
A pair of fresh bear prints.
A herd of elk (8-10?) including at least 3 bull elk. Barely caught the tail end as they crossed the road for one slightly blurred photo.

At the north 'end' of the trail we headed West for the obligatory views over Chevelon Canyon, then followed an arc East to the Willow Springs Canyon side, catching a few more glances into Chevelon along the way. From there we began to follow the off-trail return route we used back in 2014, figuring the variety of terrain would go better for the hips.
But not so fast...

As a result of change #2, a LOT of the off-trail route was now a jumbled mass of wood debris... some was shredded throughly, much was not. Some areas of ground were reasonably flat, most was churned up with rocks, boulders, parts of tree trunks and parts of roots left in disarray. The only thing that was somewhat consistent was that anywhere a vehicle (caterpillar, back-hoe, etc.) had followed a somewhat straight line out of the worked areas, a series of 20' long tree trunks were lain across the path, I figured to prevent use by 4x4's/ATV's in the future, even though 'Road Trail' itself is closed to motor vehicles.

While I hoped for easier going off-trail, trying to follow our 2014 route turned out to be a disaster. After a number of failed attempts to stay closer to Chevelon Canyon due to the terrain being so thoroughly chewed-up and spit-out. Eventually I gave up and we returned back to the road and commenced the final road-walk back to the TH.

The best part of the hike was the nice weather... 67-75° F

Now that we've hit this road-walk trail three times, I think that's enough... no more. Unless we return with bikes?? (By the look of the tread, we encountered tracks of someone riding a gravel bike)
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Jul 20 2025
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Alley Loop CW via MP 25, AZ 
Alley Loop CW via MP 25, AZ
 
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Both of us felt pretty wiped out from yesterday so we decided to skip it today. But after doing a bit of gardening at home under an overcast sky Tracey said it didn't feel that hot, so we set off for a late, our usual, close-to-home loop.
Being a Sunday I expected more mountain-bikers but there weren't that many, probably 'cuz the early-birds were already done with their rides.

On the first part with calm winds the humidity made itself known but once turning West onto Scorpion Alley the breeze picked up and with a continued overcast it actually felt quite pleasant, so on this day 88° to 92° was ok.
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Jul 19 2025
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FR 554 Black Mtn Ruin Loop, AZ 
FR 554 Black Mtn Ruin Loop, AZ
 
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Hiking5.50 Miles 1,286 AEG
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Looking for something a bit cooler sans hours of driving...
Ok, so we'll get up earlier and settle for something closer with maybe 4,000' elevation for slightly cooler temps.
Scanning through the archives I found a loop just East of Rye and within 60 miles of home that we had done just over 6 years ago. Although it was a bit short and began at around 3500 feet, at one point the elevation will hit 4001... at least it did last trip.

What sealed the deal for this hike, adjacent to the loop was Black Mountain, the site of a Native American Ruin which we had visited a full 12 years ago, so it was time for another visit.

Driving East on Gisela Road we missed the Forest Road 554K turn due to a number of factors:
- Almost completely camouflaged
- Barely wide enough between heavy vegetation for a vehicle
- Angled so as not to be easily noticed while Eastbound
- No sign denoting it as a Forest Road.
The last item is due very likely to the fact that what used to be Forest Road 554K disappears completely within a quarter mile. (which was already the case 12 years ago)

Anyway, once turned around it was slightly easier to locate the turn, but tight as it was the 4Runner immediately gained new AZ pinstripes. Knowing how bad the road would get we parked within a hundred yards from the main road.

Yup, barely a quarter-mile and it was time to make the sharp right turn and begin the rugged climb up the non-designated ATV road. It was an instant workout which got the blood flowing and the mouth-breathing going in full force, made harder by the steep slope of loose golf-ball to baseball-sized rocks. We will climb and descend three times within the first 2 miles so we had very little time to catch our breath until rounding the North end of our loop. Being on the humid side, it was pure joy the few times we had a brief wisp of a breeze.

A number of times early on we encountered the odd cattle, some quickly moved off while others were unconcerned with our presence as we passed by. At just under 2 miles we connected to the existing Forest Road 554 on which the tread was somewhat better but for one more climb, during which I followed a parallel cattle trail rather than the road.

At about 2.5 miles, where Forest Road 554 turned off for a descent to the NW, we continued on the Western un-designated ATV trail. This time it wasn't bad because it more-or-less ran along the top of a ridge.

Now, heading directly toward Black Mountain it was nearing decision time... climb to the ruin site or follow the ATV trail back now. The slope up Black Mountain seemed much steeper than I recalled, and not really feeling full of energy (humidity being the likely culprit) I half-heartedly asked Tracey whether we should go for it or not. With no retort of absolutely not it appeared the decision was made to keep going straight ahead, which meant we were going to the ruin site.

As we began the climb I recalled how the first time we here in 2013, we actually drove the Cherokee a few hundred feet farther up than we were now on foot, the reason why our previous trip to the ruin was a total of barely .4 mile. The 'trail' up was well-used enough it was pretty easy to follow, as long as one realized it did not just go straight to the top but rather followed a slight 'S' curve. Oh yeah, the cattle seemed to be the ones who use this 'trail' the most... what the heck are they doing up here? Was there word of moo-th that there might be some great grazing up here?? At the hazard of breaking a leg on the loose sharp boulders?

The ruin site itself didn't bring back any specific memories, so we just wandered a bit, taking a few photos then sitting down for what turned out to be a rare 20-minute brunch. I guess I wasn't the only one feeling sluggish today.

Surprisingly, both of us felt the descent went much easier than expected, which was good, because once back on the ATV trail the last descent would be downright nasty! Another spot where I took a wide detour along cow paths rather than down the rocky 'ankle-breaking' slope. The only time I crossed the track was to take a few photos of the currently-dry Black Mountain Tank.

Back in the wash I took a look Northward for any sign of the long-gone Forest Road 554K, but there was absolutely no trace, not that I expected any since there were none in 2013.

I took one under-the-fence detour from the road down into the lower wash to take photos of the dam below Black Mountain Tank as well as the cliff walls.

Not a long hike by distance or time, but it was a workout no less. My hips were killing me for the first hour or so, and whether it was the Naproxen I took at the start taking the edge off or eventually I just zoned-out the pain, they seemed fine the rest of the way, even the up-and-down to the ruins. (The pain will return during the 'short-easy-flat' hike tomorrow... must be getting old)
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Jul 09 2025
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Pivot Canyon Rock & Spring via FR 149, AZ 
Pivot Canyon Rock & Spring via FR 149, AZ
 
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We chose this one as a relatively easy introduction to hiking on the Rim for a co-worker of Tracey's, but due to a family emergency (for a cat, no less) we would be doing this one by ourselves. While we could have skipped it or done a different hike, since it had been two years since we'd last been there we saw no reason to change it.

Two hours to-the-minute from leaving home we were on the trail, starting from Forest Road 149, just off Milepost 200 on AZ 87... across the lot from the ADOT black mountain of asphalt.
Initially the temperature was in the low 70's but by time we reached Wildcat Spring it had dropped to 64°.

After crossing Forest Road 616 (we did not pass through the tunnel in either direction this trip) we noticed a change since last year, which was the addition of a two-rail fence of round logs to prevent ATV traffic from driving along the canyon bottoms. While there was no evidence of traffic South of FR 616, there was at least one set of tracks which had bypassed the fence. As usual, there are ALWAYS those who simply cannot be satisfied leaving areas un-traveled.

An hour in, as we made the turn East into the side canyon toward Pivot Rock the temps hit mid-70's, still just right. We took a few obligatory photos at Pivot Rock but only one at Pivot Spring, which was but a trickle out of the pipe. Leaving the spring we headed up to reconnect with Forest Road 616 for the roughly 1-mile road-walk back to where the tunnel runs under FR 616.

Heading South from there instead of returning along the canyon bottom we took the high road, following the long-closed FR 6304 until the junction with the also long-closed FR 9386T, where we decided to take a side trip to see how far it was still easy to follow, but more importantly, seeking a nice shaded set of rocks for our snack break.

Barely an eighth-mile in I noticed movement ahead, and moments later we scared up a number of elk, the closest being a mother & calf and a bit farther was a group of 5-6, at least one being another mother & calf. Unfortunately, although I had turned on my camera when I first noted movement I must have inadvertently turned it back off so pushing the button to take the photo did nothing, except raise my ire at the shot I missed... which was a perfect portrait of a mother and calf side-by-side in the only spot of direct sunlight. Oh well, it will just have to be a snapshot-in-my-mind.

Shortly after the elk encounter we would find ourselves among a large group of butterflies feasting on 'Bee Balm' flowers. Although no flat rocks were available to sit while taking our break, we'd make do with whatever was there to enjoy the flight of butterflies. What a peaceful picnic we had.

Right about the time the forecast said possible showers after 11 am, sure enough, looking up we saw large white clouds beginning to form... not that we actually expected any rain, we figured it was time to head back. Plus, with the sun which had been out in force before the clouds, the temperature had ramped up into the mid-80's so it was feeling warm.

The rest of the return trip was uneventful.

Attempting to determine the exact type of butterflies turned out to be a disaster. In many cases, Google Lens CAN be accurate, but in other cases it is simply garbage in = garbage out. In this case it came up with more than a half-dozen differently named butterflies, a few which were obviously incorrect, even one which was white.
So... just to warn you, I posted all the butterfly photos which weren't blurred, and whether I named them correctly or not, I simply don't care... if Lens uses them incorrectly, so be it.
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Alley Loop CW, AZ 
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6 am start for completion before the heat sets in. Temps from 76° to 93°
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Alley Loop CW via MP 25, AZ 
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Hiking4.30 Miles 225 AEG
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Quick, early, very humid hike with temps 81-87° F

Met/passed by over a dozen mountain bikers (50/50 on E-Bikes) ranging from expert to scared to even be ON a bike... two gals appeared to be on their first ride with shiny new bikes. A guy with them appeared to be their minder/guide, although not seeming to 'mind' much.

Traffic on Bush Highway @ 8 am already busy along with the usual idiots... one guy appearing to do a 5 point (couldn't do it in less?) turn-around in a spot where the predominant traffic had a poor line-of-sight. Somehow made it without getting hit, or other vehicles being rear-ended while slowing.
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FR 607 & 607A (Strawberry North), AZ 
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Seeking a hike somewhere-on-the-Rim a few days BEFORE the holiday to avoid the traffic was the challenge.
Having done something similar from Forest Road 608 just north of Strawberry a few years ago, a leisurely wandering on Forest Roads (existing/closed/non-existent) would fit the bill just fine.

While I spent plenty of time on Route Editor attempting to cover all the roads with one single route, it would have meant more off-trail including some steeper climbs, so I settled for a loop of sorts from Forest Road 607A, followed by a separate hike of out-and-backs from Forest Road 607.

Hike 1 started at Forest Road 607A about 7 miles North of Strawberry on AZ 87.

South on 607A to 9387T
West on 9387T until it disappears
SW off-trail to the North end of closed/decommissioned 6191 (Game trails helped here)
SW on 6191 to 6184
West on 6184 to 608
South on 608 to 9388R
NE on 9388R until it disappeared
NE off-trail to 9381E (bits and pieces of 'road' here and there, none made sense)
East on 9381E to 607A
South to the very end of 607A (not much of an overlook)
Finally North on 607A to the start at AZ 87.

Hike 2 started at a small tank along FR 607 just over a quarter-mile South of AZ 87.

SE on 607 all the way to the end
North on 607 to the 607/9384W/9384V junction
PLANNED to follow 9384W but although marked with a shiny sign, there was nothing but pine saplings
Next up, East on 9384V (obvious road but totally UN-signed) to its end (slightly into Cinch Hook Canyon)
West on 9384V back to 607
North on 607 to 9384R (at the tank)
SW on 9384R to its dead-end
NE on 9384R to the tank.

Overall, we ALMOST completed both hikes without encountering another human... the closest we came was a good 100 yards from a campsite, from which we heard a dog bark followed by a human voice (shutting the dog up?). I didn't really see anyone but we took a short off-road detour to avoid any unneeded dog/human interaction.

A fleeting glimpse of a tom turkey but no other wildlife short of a few birds, squirrels and a butterfly or two. But no matter, it was another relaxing day in the pines.

Surprisingly the drive back to Payson was chill... some traffic but nobody in a particular hurry.
Almost the same heading South of Payson but for driver (texting when he passed us) in a red pickup with a high/unstable load, weaving pretty much all over the road (on the shoulder once), in a super hurry and wasting NO time on the winding 55 mph section. We kept wondering when we'd come upon the wreck, or possibly stopped for speeding near Rye (no DPS with radar this time) but I guess he lived to die (or possibly kill/maim another motorist) another day.
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East Mountain Trail #214Globe, AZ
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If the details of the planning are boring, by all means, feel free to scroll down to THE HIKE:

It's a Sunday, which means no road closures East of Superior on the US 60, so where should we hike?
Somewhere in the Pinals?
Hmmm, let's see, are there any trails that aren't just a steep out-and-back ascent with a ton of AEG, or even a loop of sorts with the same LONG climb at the start?
Although not long ago none of those options would have been out-of-the-question, I now face the reality that hikes of a dozen or more miles along with 2-3K AEG no longer have the 'fun' factor as in the past, to say nothing of the A&P constant companions... aches and pains.

After digging back into my archives I found East Mountain Trail #214 just might fit the bill... I'd hiked the full loop (returning along FR #112) three times before, so I knew the miles, AEG and best-of-all for Tracey, temps in the 60's to 70's would work out just right.

Just hold on a minute their pard'ner!
Will it be a wasteland in the aftermath of the Telegraph Fire of 2021?
With no more recent triplogs than @rayhuston posted barely 3 weeks BEFORE the fire, I guess we will be flying blind.

But then again, my first trip was just over a week AFTER the Pioneer Fire of 2009 (unknown until meeting a fire-cleanup crew along the road after the hike) in which all was nice and green until a half-mile in where we came face-to-face with the after-fire wasteland. Being predominantly East of the ridge at least half of the hike was NOT in the wasteland.

Ok, enough of the blast from the past... what was it like this trip?
Although the freshly graded Forest Road #112 was in the best and smoothest condition I'd experienced over almost 2 decades, the constant winding around the blind-corners was a bit stressful for Tracey, enough so that her watch let her know... but she survived.

THE HIKE:
As in the past we began from what used to be a pull-out (which has now become the Wagon Wheel area) along Forest Road #112 a half-mile South of the actual trailhead at: 33.27975 -110.79728
Once on the actual trail we had an optimism that it might turn out to be a great hike due to some VERY recent trail maintenance. But it was not to last... it appears the part that was wide and smooth was due to gain access for erecting a new fence winding its way along the length of East Mountain ridge.

Shortly thereafter, the only trail maintenance appeared to be of the bovine variety... as in cattle just happening to push back the thorny brush while wandering along the trail. In some cases, the cattle knew where the trail should be more than we did, even with a GPS track. But once through the first gate (actually under it... the wire was so tight it was impossible to open it) there were no more cattle tracks and route-finding became the main theme.

While much has greened up over 4 years, a TON of the burnt/dead trees have become deadfall, which became a never-ending issues throughout the hike. (The photoset is rife with examples... yet maybe .05% of what we encountered.)

Thankfully the second gate (on the Eastern contour of 6760) was just BARELY loose enough to open as this one offered no chance for me to slide under... as back issues prevent partaking in such fun. As we continued North along the ridge there was an obvious fork in the trail, the right of which was heading for the East Mountain summit. Since the plan was to hit the summit this looked like it may provide a reasonable route to it. But like a ton of times while peak-bagging, the 'summit' was just a bump along the ridge and there was a pretty steep ascent yet to go. Tracey was still up for it so we kept going... for maybe 50 feet when I realized, IF we were to reach the summit we would need to cross the fence where there are NO gates, and of course cross it back later. With even the lowest wire being barbed, that was not gonna happen!

Ok, so we'll just drop the 400' (150' in elevation) back to the actual trail #214 again. It only took15 minutes to do that, incurring a number minor injuries to both of us. Several times it appeared we reached the trail only to realize it was not, and when we finally did reconnect with it, it was not much better. But we're back on the trail again, along with the requisite climbing over and/or detouring the never-ending deadfall. By this point we swore off a side-trip to the summit, even though I knew from history the approach from the North was the easier route.

Once on the ridge just North of the summit, after a gander back to a mountain of green I couldn't resist a photo. Continuing along the ridge became a never-ending game of lose-the-trail, wander around, find-the-trail ad infinitum. Frankly the thickets of thorny brush made it a real pain. If I had my brushing shears it would have been quick work but with just my hand clipper it would take more time and effort than it would save so it was just a matter of rolling sideways to minimize getting hooked on the thorns as we passed through.

Eventually we reached the big tree with a seat of sorts for the obligatory photo... sans a human this time. (The seat is a bit too high for comfort so we never sit on it.)

Nearing the spot where the trail begins its zig-zag descent to the West, the trail disappeared into a mass of deadfall, which took quite some time and back-tracking to re-locate the trail, not that it was much of anything by then. For practically the full descent we would constantly lose the trail in masses of deadfall, try to keep the detours as short as possible and re-locate the trail again. Eventually we began to follow game trails reasonably close to the track. At some points we were hundreds of feet from the trail yet tried to reconnect whenever possible. Only when we were almost down to reaching Toll Road Trail #200 (not that there is much of it) before we knew we were actually back on Trail #214, yup, when it ended.

Following Toll Road Trail #200 was easy at times, full width flat and clear, and terrible at times, with so much deadfall at one point it looked like a ladder of trees across the trail... and I can attest there was no fun in climbing the ladder. Eventually we reconnected with Forest Road #112 and commenced the 1.2 mile road-walk back to the start.

While this hike definitely tested both of us far more than we bargained for, including numerous cuts & scratches from thorny vegetation, an agave stab and a minor fall or two for Tracey (I only stumbled once) it was great to be outdoors.

Final Note: The drive back down Forest Road #112 was nowhere near as stressful as the drive up, thanks to a guy ahead of us driving an old pickup 10-15 mph pretty much all the way to the CCC TH junction. We were in no hurry so by staying just far enough behind we would have plenty of warning of any uphill traffic, of which there was none.

One FINAL Note: We are DONE with East Mountain... never to return.
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Strawberry Mountain via FR 1560, AZ 
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Seeking a hike in slightly cooler country Tracey scanned back through our history for hikes this time of year and this one popped up from almost exactly 6 years ago, so it was definitely time for a return trip.

Again, the more direct official route didn't appeal to us so we opted for the same route as last time. While a bit longer, there is practically no need for route-finding. It's as simple as following Forest Road 1560 a mile up to a fence, then hang a left and follow the two-track trail all the way to the summit. While vague at a few points along the way, only a moment or two to look around and one can pick up the route again.

Just over 3/4 mile East of Forest Road 1560 is what appears to be a solar-powered weather station. Google's AI search yielded nothing on my later attempts to locate anything specifics.
At the weather station was a memorial for a Clark C. Baker, 1943-2018, which had a scenic view over Hardscrabble Mesa.
Also at the weather station was a wide dirt road descending steeply to the South, ultimately ending at Forest Road 428A near the Hunt Ranch. Although it peaked my attention slightly, it would just be a descend-and-ascend detour so we skipped it and continued on to the summit.

While stopping to take a drink Tracey saw something moving in thick vegetation by a tree, bigger than a rabbit, so possibly a coyote? I doubted that so I started to walk in a large arc around the area and saw two small birds. When I told Tracey she said it was definitely larger and a moment later I realize it is a wild turkey hen followed by two poults, the small birds I noted moments before. I told Tracey to be ready for a photo while I flushed them out but she wasn't up for a quick-draw of her phone today so the opportunity was missed. Since I had expected (hoped) she would have a clear opportunity, by time I realized she missed the photo it was allI could do to zoom my camera and fire a few shots without time to focus or even know if any bird was in the photo. While the first photo was just a blur, I managed to catch the turkey hen dead-center in the photo, albeit some distance (100'?) away. Oh well, a close look at the photo will reveal only the mother hen as the poults were ahead of her at that moment.

Once in the vicinity of the summit one could wander some distance attempting to find the highest point, but with no knowledge of a summit register, and it not a benchmarked peak we didn't waste any time to find a single highest point, and just continued East to a vantage point overlooking the town of Pine.

From there we decided to follow the Eastern edge of Strawberry Mountain to the Southernmost point before looping back to the NW. Since this part was devoid of any two-track, we simply followed the odd deer/elk trails until reconnecting with the two-track we had followed earlier to the summit.

On the return leg we took the short detour to Maple Spring Tank. Unlike six years ago when the 'pool' of water was about 25 feet in diameter, today it was completely dry.
The name 'Maple Spring Tank' seems more than a bit optimistic... there are no maples, nor is there a spring anywhere within a mile or more.

As we neared the end of Forest Road 1560 where we had parked, a couple in a Chevy Tahoe SUV was driving very slowly up the road. Knowing just how bad it got barely a few hundred yards farther up (first just erosion in the center, then a very rough area with a tall rock 'step'), Tracey and I thought the same thing... they'll be back real soon, IF they can get turned around. As slow as we were walking, sure enough, here they come. As soon as they had returned, they must have turned around before the mild eroded section.

Although we did more wandering than 6 years ago, including slightly more distance and time, somehow we ended up 100+ less AEG.

A few items of note on the drive back to the Valley:
1. From Pine to Payson we were behind two new school buses (likely being delivered somewhere to the South), the drivers of which likely had never driven the route and as such were driving slow, maxing out at 40 mph, even in the '55 mph warning sign' sections. And no, they never used the slow vehicle pull-outs.
(Having stopped for slightly cheaper gas in Payson, we would pass the buses on the climb up to the Ord FR 626 junction)
2. Between Mile 214 & 213 (traveling Southbound) where the lanes are swapped we could see a DPS vehicle with flashing lights in the Northbound lane, followed by a pickup with 'Oversize Load' signs. For a fraction of a second caught sight of a truck & trailer carrying some kind of large cylindrical tank which appeared not to be moving. For the next 1/4 mile due to the terrain we were unable to get a better look at the vehicle, but what we COULD see was a well over a mile of stopped Northbound traffic. As we continued Southward, we saw an unending train of vehicles about to join the standstill. Oh joy!
(And it just so happens as I'm writing this, AZ 87 Beeline is closed Northbound at Bush Highway - Mile 199, for a fire all the way up at Mile 234... about 1.5 miles South of AZ 188.)
As dry as things are, I'm sure we'll have plenty more fun to come this summer... some fun huh?
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Semi-usual route. One older gentleman mountain biker encountered and one sign of rattlesnake crossing the trail but no snakes.
Slight breeze and temps 73-91°F
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