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Mar 15 2025
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3.15.25 Thumb Butte, AZ 
3.15.25 Thumb Butte, AZ
 
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Hiking2.92 Miles 1,141 AEG
Hiking2.92 Miles   3 Hrs   13 Mns   1.08 mph
1,141 ft AEG      31 Mns Break
 
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3-15-25
Thumb Butte
Getting there:
Exit 12 and head west on 39
When you get to the intersection at mile post 10 head Left. (pic)
1.8 miles later you will come to a very sharp turn. Park under the tree on the South side of the road .( pic)

This trip we took the wash up to the saddle. .4 miles to saddle from Road.

From the saddle follow the ridges to the West and make your way to the butte. There is no path but if you keep the butte in your field of vision the way is pretty obvious. I like to use the bare rock to get up the steep hills. The rock grips well and though steep is easily negotiated.

We checked out some of the small windows near the base of the Butte to the East. The view would have been amazing except for the clouds which were right at eye level. Head toward what looks like a rock chute or wall and go up!. There are many hand holds and the rock is solid.

Once you are up the 40-50 foot wall head Northwest along the base and you and the split will come into view. The opening to the cave is below the split and guarded by a spikey plant. I climbed a few feet above it to avoid getting stuck. The passage through the butte is narrow. Barely enough room for me to fit through. It’s not a difficult crawl but it is awkward. There are a few flat places to rest and exploring this small area is a must.

In the recess near the opening there is no wind and in the warmer months is provides shade and a nap.

Views: Castle Rock-Pena Blanca Lake – Muffin Mtn Caves- Mohave Ridge-Atascosa Peak-Ramanote Peak

Features: No trail – Lots of rock scrambling – two sections of class 3 clmbing-Sweeping views.
Times:
7:33 – left the truck 39 degrees and light rain
7:48 – Left the wash by the trees – Rain/slow/Sleet. Ouch
8:01 – Crossed the Barbed wire fence and rested under the tree
8:06 – saddle facing Thumb Butte – clouds were too thick to see it
8:17 – passed single section of fence.
8:56 – in open area to East of butte. Windows are here to East
9:01 – reached STEEP rock wall
9:05 – reached cave opening
9:30 – headed back
10:09 – Single section of fence.
10:22 – left Saddle
10:26 – Barbed Wire Fence
10:45 – Back at truck – (pic)
Distance 1.5 miles to Butte = 3 miles round trip
Elevation gain = 1250 feet
Even with the rough weather this was a good one!
 
Apr 06 2024
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Trail 100 - Bad choices, AZ 
Trail 100 - Bad choices, AZ
 
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HikerWillTriplogs 173
Hiking8.20 Miles
Hiking8.20 Miles   8 Hrs   45 Mns   1.08 mph
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No detailed triplog this time.
Take a look at my earlier Atascosa Peak triplog to the N end of the saddle.
Tried to go below the saddle to a cliff line but it was too dangerous. Cliffs and slides
Found a way through the taller cliffs on the South Side of the Peak then headed to the base.
Followed the base of the mtn as far as I dared then headed back to the third level of cliffs to rest in the shade.
Snow on the Saddle
The water I stashed along the way the last few times was still there.
Bad fall and tumble about 4 hours in.
Three cars at the trailhead was a surprise.

Want to go back next year. Might try to go past Butte 4833
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Mar 29 2024
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Atascosa PeakTucson, AZ
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Hiking7.00 Miles 2,980 AEG
Hiking7.00 Miles   7 Hrs   38 Mns   1.17 mph
2,980 ft AEG   1 Hour   40 Mns Break
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Atascosa Peak.
This is one of my favorite hikes. Lots of different ways to get to the peak without going to the lookout first. (3 months since last trek up there.) Hoping to get back to the arch next weekend or the next.
It’s interesting to compare the times and distance from the first time back in 2018.
This was a fast trip with K. Didn’t feel rushed and rested plenty of times. Poked around the different ledges and overlooks.
7 hours – 38 minutes round trip
1 hour 40 minutes rest
This route is about 1 mile shorter than going to the Lookout first. BUT there is no trail and its crazy steep.
Took a gallon of water. Came back with less that a quart. Cache of water from last trip is still there.

7:58 – Left Truck at trailhead
8:11 – gate
8:40 – first lookout
8:54 – Washout below red rock strata- They’ve done a really nice job repairing the trail here.
9:13 – Window and rest for 20 minutes – (hour and 15 minutes to here. Pretty fast 2 miles.)
9:54 – Saddle above Atascosa Saddle
11:10 - peak = (3 hours and 12 minutes from trailhead to peak.)
12:37 Left peak
1:36 – South End of Saddle
2:22 – Window
2:25 – back on trail
3:40 – Back at truck
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Mar 23 2024
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Tear drop window Lion mountain, AZ 
Tear drop window Lion mountain, AZ
 
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Hiking3.11 Miles 350 AEG
Hiking3.11 Miles   4 Hrs   15 Mns   1.04 mph
350 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break
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Started above Ramanote Wells and headed South toward the cliffs one canyon from Ramanote canyon.
Plan was to check out the caves I missed on the last trip. Lots of hollows and small passages to check out. Managed to fall and bruise my left buttcheek.
Skirted the lower set of cliffs on North side of Lion mtn then headed back via via the saddle to split tank.
Lots more to explore
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Mar 16 2024
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Lion Mountain - Window and Caves, AZ 
Lion Mountain - Window and Caves, AZ
 
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Hiking3.12 Miles 950 AEG
Hiking3.12 Miles   3 Hrs   59 Mns   1.14 mph
950 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break11 LBS Pack
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Lion Mountain Window and Caves
Parked at the washout at the top of the hill right above the windmill.
45 degrees. Forgot my hiking jacket but remembered to bring lunch and 3 quarts of water. Made it back with a pint.
8:55 – Left the truck – 50 yards later had to negotiate a 4’ barbed wire fence.
9:08 – first set of cliffs
9: 17 – up through a break in the cliffs. Followed along the edge of the cliff for about half a mile. Level and not much brush. Found one backpack from years ago.
10:01 - When I was a cross from the caves on the East side of the Canyon I headed up the opposite way to the West ridge. Reached the ridge 10:01. Have hiked the ridge before.
10:09 – Looking to the East from the end of the ridge I can see where people come and target practice. I decided to drop over the far side away from anyone wanting to sight in a rifle. Thought about going back because… I was tired. This way was incredibly steep.
10:20 – decided to take my first break. Saw a few crystal clusters. Very small. Lots of hoodoos here and I’ve been down to the right of them. Sat and weighed in the options for the return trip. Decided to try a different way than last time. Last trip took me down a .75 mile long wash that had a series of Waterfalls and cliffs to negotiate.
10:39 – Started down toward some cliffs I checked out about a year ago. I thought I saw a cave beneath them then.
10:41 spotted what I hoped was a window. On the way to it I came a cross a small hollow/cave.
10:48 – Reached the Window- about 6’ wide and 10’ feet tall. Tear drop shaped. Can see Elephant head through the window.
11:00 left window and headed to where I thought there was another cave. Looking back toward the window I spotted several other caves. Plan to check these out another weekend.
11:11 made it to cave from a year ago. 25-30 feet deep. 5-6 feet high at opening.
11:41 Hiked around the ridge at about the same elevation and for no particular reason, headed up a small wash and nearly tripped over a black pipe. Followed it up the wash and found a cistern.
Decided to follow the pipe down the wash and see where it went. Apparently there was a fire and sections of it were burned away. Eventually came to a metal stock tank about 20 feet about the creekbed.
12:54 back at the truck. Almost exactly 4 hours round trip.
3.12 miles total distance
950 feet elevation aeg.
4 hours total
1 hour 12 minutes of rest
Was worried about water for a while because I halfway froze mine as usual and it didn’t have a chance to melt as fast as I would have liked.
 
Mar 09 2024
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Ramanote Canyon Natural ArchTucson, AZ
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Hiking6.40 Miles 1,650 AEG
Hiking6.40 Miles   8 Hrs   5 Mns   1.02 mph
1,650 ft AEG   1 Hour   48 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
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Annual Hike to Ramanote Arch – John Montgomery first discovered this in 1988.
Got a late start because the smoke detector kept beeping. Ended up losing some time to take them down.
54 degrees at the start
Water was running until the last 100 yards or so. My pants were soaked from the knees down because of the dew and falling in the creek about an hour from the start.
This was a really good time to go because the cows had made trails for most of the way to Butte 4833. Fasted time this far was today at and hour and 7 minutes, It usually take between and hour and 15 and an hour and a half.
Also fastest time to where I exit the canyon. And hour and 10 minutes. Each time I go the route becomes more familiar and direct. There seemed to be more fallen trees than usual.
This was the slowest time ever from canyon to arch. I tried a different way. Instead of skirting around the cliffs to the West. I went straight up the ridge between washes to the cliffs and found a way through. In order to get to the arch I had to go wayyyy above it. I could see it but just had to go around Robbins Barn to get there.
Likely took me 30-40 minutes longer this way.
Found a new migrant camp on the way back, just food wrappers and wet blankets.
Times and particulars below.
Again, if you read about this route more than two years ago you need to know that the boulder on top of the cliff marking the place to leave the canyon is no longer there. I almost went past this. I left a red rock there as a marker. Also some one mentioned pots or holes in the bedrock as a point of reference. These seem to be filled in with silt and leaves.
8:43 left truck at wide spot after Toruno Tank. Need 4wd to get here.
8:54 – dam – good supply of water coming out of pipe at bottom
9:22 Rest by grotto rest (12 minutes)
9:47 – X rock
9:50 – 3 way canyon below butte 4833
10:12 – rest after flowered area – exact south of ramanote peak (4 min)
10:16 – Back at it.
10:38 – water pots in wash
10:42 – first of 4 ledges/waterfalls (small)
10:53 – Last stop before leaving the canyon – Rested/ate in sun out of canyon (11 minutes) Took time in sun to let clothes dry.
12:12 – view of arch from above – (don’t do this again)
12:19 under arch (56 minutes) Dried wet shoe and replaced socks. Odd how an hour passes so quickly.
1:05 – left shade of arch
1:54 back in canyon
2:57 – canyon below butte 4833
3:11 – X rock
3:24 – rest stop - Grotto – Quick nap (14 min)
3:39 back at it
4:13 Dam
4:21 – rest stop 1/3 way up hill. (11 min) Coming out of the canyon by the over turned truck is the worst part of the way.
4:36 – overturned truck
4:48 – back at truck
Rest 108 minutes total
8 hours 5 minutes – total hike
Hike time 6:48
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Dec 29 2023
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Atascosa PeakTucson, AZ
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Hiking6.85 Miles 2,025 AEG
Hiking6.85 Miles   9 Hrs   15 Mns   0.88 mph
2,025 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break
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Atascosa 12-29-23

When we started the temperature was 39 degrees and it was windy. Found an old towel in the truck and ripped it in half so we could have a scarf. The first 20 minutes of the trail had been improved a lot. It’s wider and cleaned up with some erosion control and steps. Whoever is improving the trail… THANK YOU!

We left the trail at the window and took the migrant path to the East and stayed at the base of the cliffs all the way around. We did this so we wouldn’t have to go all the way to the Lookout and make the climb up and down and up and down to the Saddle. The trail to the East is just about gone now. Just stay at the same elevation as you head East and then North until Atascosa Peak is in full view. There is a very sharp ridge here. To the East there is a small saddle with a good place to take a nap. I couldn’t find signs of an old Coyote camp from the last time I went this way.

The goal from this point was to then hike up the sharp ridge then head diagonal to the West until we were on top of the cliffs that are the same elevation as the saddle. The number of downed trees made this way difficult to get on top. Once on top though it’s a straight shot to the S end of the saddle.

The saddle has a lot of cairns that people have left over the years. There are a lot of downed trees in areas that make following the cairns closely difficult.
We opted to not take the final cliff and go the safe way to the W.
Rested at the top for a while and headed back sooner that we wanted but I didn’t want to come down this one in the dark again.

At the S end of the Saddle we headed toward a shallow Saddle to the E. This shaved at least an hour off the trip back and took us past some small caves and balanced rocks. This way is steep with lots of ledges, cliffs and rocks. There is an abundance of catclaw. Angry catclaw, filled with resentment and regret. It comes and goes and there is no way to avoid it.
We rested below the window and picked up some stashed water and went on our way.
The sun was setting right as we made the gate making for colorful views to the West
I’ll probably head back in March.
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8:25 – Started on Trailhead
8:37 Gate - 12
9:13 – Overlook 48
9:27 First Saddle 62
9:36 – washout 71
10:03 – Window 108 – rested in shade 20 min
10:23 Left Trail 100 and took migrant trail to E and headed N skirting along cliffs
10:57 reached ridge and headed up to same elevation as Saddle. 142
11:55 reached S end of saddle 200 headed N across saddle
1:00 square hole – We avoided the final cliff and headed up the safe way through the trees 245
1:13 – Peak! 258 ttl minutes 4 hours and 18 minutes hiking time - -ttl time to peak 4 hours 38 min.
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1:55 headed down. Short nap. Read the register. Enjoyed the view. Light, high clouds. Clear 360 degree view. Was at Butte 4833 a few weeks ago. It looks small from the peak.
2:27 - back down on the N end of the Saddle. Left two bottles of water here to lighten packs. Glad they were still here. 32
2: 50--S end of the Saddle. Headed up diagonally to the small Saddle to the East. 45
2:58 Reached saddle and rested a bit before heading down the STEEP catclaw farmland down to the Window. 53
3:41 – window 96
3:45 Trail 100—100 minutes – rested here
4:02 headed back on trail
4:22 at the washed out part of trail below Red strata 120
4:29 back at first saddle 127
4:36 – at overlook 142
5:18 back at gate 184
5:38 back at trailhead 204 minutes 3 hours 24 minutes
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Dec 26 2023
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Split tank, AZ 
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Hiking2.10 Miles 857 AEG
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Brisk morning.
parked at the tank and headed toward a saddle between two mesas.
Pretty good cow path.
Tank is probably at 10%
Nice easy Day after Christmas hike.
 
Dec 24 2023
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FR 4816 maybe 4876 sign is worn, AZ 
FR 4816 maybe 4876 sign is worn, AZ
 
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Hiking2.50 Miles 943 AEG
Hiking2.50 Miles   3 Hrs   12 Mns   0.87 mph
943 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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Exit 29 on I-19 - Santa Gertrudis - FR 4151
Headed down toward Rock Corral and to FR 4816 which dead ends at an old surface mine.
2wd until about 200 feet from the end of the road. There is barely room for my Silverado to turn around.
Headed South up the Creek Bed. Pools of water nothing flowing.
About 150 yards from the truck a path appears and then splits.
Today I took the Path to the Right to a dead end canyon I have been looking at. Lots of cliffs and climbing opportunities here.
The path came and went and eventually disappeared as I entered the narrow canyon.

Fair amount of water trickling down the cliffs.
I managed to make it up about 30 feet and couldn't go up or back down.
Thought of ReddRoxx when I landed in the pool of water at the base lf the cliffs.
A more or less controlled fall/slide.
Tried to find a crack in the cliffs to the East in several places but the rocks were too slippers to climb out. Managed to get up the cliffs with the waterfalls by crisscrossing a serios of ledges that put me out on the West side.
Followed this drainage and found a serios of small pools and falls. I was surprised at how loud the water was given the small amount falling.
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From here it got steep and impossible with no path.
Rested a bit in the sun.
Followed a broad shallow wash to a saddle and realized i was on the wrong ridge. There is a path on the ridge to the East of this ridge.
Took a chance and headed back down this new ridge and cliffed out several times.
Ended up back tracking about half an hour to find a break in the cliffs that i could glissade.
Bad fall ended up cutting my knee.

Once in the canyon i headed up the other side to where i knew there was a path.
From there it was an easy jaunt to the truck.

Started at 11:15 and go back to truck 2:30ish

This was a very harsh hike.
Slow MPH because I took advantage of the solitude to empty. AND because I was stuck for a while.
I came back with a lot of catclaw evidence on my shins and wrists.
Even though it was in the low 60s I got over heated going up and used over half a gallon of water.
Found that my egg sandwich had shells in it. Gross. At it anyway.
Steep, slippery, remote. quiet. quiet. quiet
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Dec 16 2023
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FR4151 toward Tumacaccori, AZ 
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Hiking2.12 Miles 200 AEG
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Just needed and easy one to get outside on a Saturday.

Exit 29 I-19 FR 4151
Follow across Gasline until the road splits.
Instead of heading down toward Rock corral I stayed on the mesa and parked i na side flat area.
Headed Due North down into the canyon. This will be my jump off for the peak instead of the ned of the road like usual.
Eventually the creekbed turns into bedrock and there is a 20-40 foot set of cliffs.
This has been a really cool place to explore the last few times Ive been out this way and the edge of the cliffs is an easy landmark to caves, balanced rocks and a mine or two.

Found a lightly used game trail that led me to the creekbed below the cliffs.
Lots of nooks and crannies for hideouts.
a fair amount of trash.
Lots of chances to boulder hop and climb.
Nothing much of interest to report. Planning to go back down below the clifs via a short cut and continue East to check out that area.
Cows have cleared down to the dirt so its fast and easy travel.
Several pools of water.
 
Dec 09 2023
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4833 Butte, AZ 
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Hiking5.89 Miles 1,105 AEG
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Butte 4833
I love this one!
This is one of 4 annual hikes I make. In 2019 I put a register on a ledge below the cave and someone signed it since the last time I was out this way. They also used some of the water I stashed under a rock about 20 feet away up the hill.
The Silverado made the last .5 mile past Toruno tank with no problem. Gotta use 4wd and there are some pretty serious holes and steps to a wide spot before the “road” descends into the canyon.
7:40 – left the truck
7:45 – over turned truck
7:52 at the dam
8:27 first rest top. Usually takes about 45 min to reach here from truck. Today 47 min.
8:49 – X marks the spot rock
8:53 canyon below butte 4833 usually an hour and 15 to this point. Today and hour and 13
9:36 Base of Butte – this time we took a beeline up instead of switchbacks. Insanely steep and slidey.
10:21 – in the Cave/hollow on the side of the butte
10:40 found Orange register after checking water stash
11:48 – sat on dam and rested for about 10 min before heading up and out
12:24 – Back at the truck
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Chilly day. No clouds. Used about 2 quarts of water. There are cow and game trails that come and go that make the first two miles go faster. From the truck to the base of the butte is about 2 miles.
No trials up to the butte out of the canyon.
No trails from below butte to the Arch. Planning on doing another Annual trek to the Arch in March.
I would really like another trip the end of the ridge behind 4833 but it’s a 10-12 hour day.
 
Oct 14 2023
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FR 4151A Tumacacori Foothills, AZ 
FR 4151A Tumacacori Foothills, AZ
 
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Hiking2.75 Miles 952 AEG
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Exit 29 i-15 FR 4151A
Rough few weeks at work and decided to just GOOOOOO in a random direction.
Too many Caairns to keep track of. Found an un marked vertical Mine shaft. As I came over the 2 foot ledge covered with vegetation I could have easily stepped over and into this. I’ll go back later with a rope and see how deep it is. I estimate at least 30-40 feet. This route could asl be an easier way to my favorite Chilitipin patch.
Some cairns had survey information for mining claims. Others looked like hikers, migrants or hunters left behind. In places there are so many headed in every direction that are useless for directions.

Amazing views of the Mtn range and Corral ranch road area.

8:15 – left truck
9:29 – Unmarked Vertical Mine shaft – rested here a bit
10=54 back at truck
 
Jun 18 2023
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Santa gertudis, AZ 
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Hiking2.10 Miles 350 AEG
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6-18-2023
Santa Gertudis

Got out early before it got hot.
Exit 29 to the West.
Right turn after passing Gasline road.
100 yards later follow the road to the Left because it goes around the wash instead of down it.
There used to be an SUV parked at the bottom. Probably took something with a track to get it out.

As soon as I crossed Gasline road to the North there is a faint road that heads toward a couple of water tanks and troughs. From where I parked it was about .75 miles to the tanks. Which are right beside the interstate.
My plan was to drop down in the wash and head up the nearest ridge back to the truck which would have been about a mile and a half round trip.

Instead, I followed a cow path that paralleled the interstate up to another ridge. From here I could look way down on the traffic. I wonder if anyone saw me up there.
From that point it was just a matter of heading up the ridge to the truck. No path and very few trails that seem to come and go. I’m not even sure how I stumbled on a big hole. It was surrounded by trees. Looked like a mining test hole. There are lots of them up on the mesa.

When I got back to gasline I decided to not take the level road back to the truck and instead went the 200+ feet into the wash and back out. This put me withing about 20 yards to the truck.

Light clouds and slight breeze made this enjoyable. I’ve had enough of hiking UP for a while.

6:47 left truck to go down faint road. Very rough with lots of loose rocks.
7:06 made it to the tank. Saw trail and followed to the south down into the canyon
7:15 Emerged from canyon to hillside right by the interstate fence. Took a 10 min break here
7:37 found what looked like a rock wall or foundation and the hole
8:03 gasline road to where SUV was parked
8:12 back at truck

3 quarts of water… back with less that one.
Very steep coming out of the canyon. Cow trail helped.
Chased a few deer out o the brush.
Nice quick morning hike
90 minutes?
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Jun 16 2023
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Calabasas Campground Road, AZ 
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Hiking3.12 Miles 422 AEG
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6-16-2023
Calbasas campground
FR 4012

6:10 – Left truck outside campground gate – It was locked
6:36- Gate to Mud Tank was open – Took road out of the Canyon to the East
Very steep with lots of roly rocks
6:43- Top of Ridge out of canon – Great view of Atacsosa and Elephant head and more
6:59 – Abandoned Grave
7:05 – Walker Canyon Column comes in to view Third gate
7:24 – 3 mile mark - The road takes a pretty steep dive before heading the next peak.
7:36 – headed back- 1 hour 24 minutes to the turn around here.
8:20 – back in canyon at mud take gate – from here its level to the truck
8:22 – 8:26 rest water
8:43 – Game water station – Abandoned
8:51 – Back at second gate. This marks the South end of the Campground
8:58 – Back at truck

65 degrees at start – chilly with the wind
76 degrees back at truck
Took three quarts of water and used 2
On the way in I only rested at the end – 3 miles

Saw one deer and a lot of rabbits and ground squirrels.

Fantastic views – Solitude – Good workout hike
2 years ago I found the road by accident after coming out of the canyon past the column.
 
Jun 08 2023
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PENA clffs new cave and trash, AZ 
PENA clffs new cave and trash, AZ
 
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HikerWillTriplogs 173
Hiking2.45 Miles 190 AEG
Hiking2.45 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   1.18 mph
190 ft AEG      25 Mns Break
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Pena white cliffs.. again

Took a different round. Found a new cave and small grotto like hole.
Interesting climbs and hopping.
LOTS of migrant mess.
Might go back next week with some trash bags.
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Jun 07 2023
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White Cliffs. cave, AZ 
White Cliffs. cave, AZ
 
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HikerWillTriplogs 173
Hiking2.75 Miles 150 AEG
Hiking2.75 Miles   3 Hrs   20 Mns   1.10 mph
150 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
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Been scouting this area a lot.
Every time I find something else interesting.
This time parked at the first campsite in Pena Blanca Canyon.
Found a new cave or two.
And a machete with the metal detector.
Hiked the mile and a half to the balanced rocks above Walker canyon
Then down through a hidden passage through the cliffs.
 
Jun 03 2023
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Tumacacori Base - Gas line road, AZ 
Tumacacori Base - Gas line road, AZ
 
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Hiking1.50 Miles 150 AEG
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Road near tumacaccori mtn

Gasline road.
I found another access road that leads to gasline road. Hiked around on the NE side of Tuma. Mtn. looking at cliffs.
Found some wild pepper plants for this fall.
 
May 29 2023
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Red Mtn - Ptagonia, AZ 
Red Mtn - Ptagonia, AZ
 
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HikerWillTriplogs 173
Hiking1.75 Miles 200 AEG
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Couple of short hikes today and a lot of riding around.
Covered about 2 miles. Parked below the antennas and hiked UP.
Then drove around the mtn and hiked along some cliffs.
Amazing views.
 
Mar 17 2023
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Ramanote Canyon Natural ArchTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking6.40 Miles 1,650 AEG
Hiking6.40 Miles   10 Hrs   14 Mns   0.81 mph
1,650 ft AEG   2 Hrs   17 Mns Break
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Three years ago I made it to the Arch twice.
Once alone and a second time to bring C and a waterproof register box to replace the one that was leaking.
Perfect Day for this hike.
Cool, clouds, breezy, enough water to make the waterfalls interesting.
Left with 2 gallons of water between us and came back with less than a quart.

9:15 -Left the truck.
9:22 – Over turned truck
9:29 – Dam
10:10 – First rest – To north there are two slender columns in the rock high on the ridge
Rest 8 min
10:35 – “X” rock
10:41- below butte 4833 – rested 14 minutes
11:13 – below cave
11:49 – found ID from Venzuela – rested 15 min
12:18 – first pot holes
12:39 – Missing boulder – leave canyon here – rested 20 minutes
1:00 – left the canyon –
1:31 – Bee tree
1:54 – crossed the wash right at cliffs – will keep going next time
2:12 – C at the Arch
3:15 – left arch
4:10 - back at Bee Tree
4:41 – back in canyon – Rested 4 minutes
5:30 – below cave
5:42 – Below Butte 4833-rested 10 min
6:00 – “X” Rock. Concerned about losing the light.
6:16 – at first rest area from way in.
6:51 – Dam – Dark – rested 10 min
7:12 – overturned truck
7:28 – Back at the truck

Going in:
Truck to Dam = 14 minutes
Dam to Butte = 1 hour 11 minutes
Butte to missing boulder – 1 hour and 34 minutes
Leaving canyon to Arch = 1 hour 12 minutes
Stayed at the arch = 1 hour 3 minutes – Cool and breezy

Coming back:
Arch to Canyon = 46 minutes
Canyon(missing boulder) to Butte – 45 minutes
Butte to Dam - 59 minutes
Dam to Truck – 27 minutes

Return trips are usually quicker and in this case… MUCH quicker. Fear of the dark made for a quicker pace home.
This is a good year to go to the arch because cows have cleaned up the path that leads to the creek a few hundred yards from Butte 4833. The catclaw has been beaten back really well along this leg of the hike.
In the canyon below 4833 we took the canyon to the right and hugged the drainage to the left which parallels the ridge 400-600 feet above. Much of the drainage is easy to manage.
HOWEVER, in comparing the pictures from the first travelog to the arch you can easily see that the canyon and drainage is chocked up a lot more with debris and plants.

The boulder that tells where to leave the canyon is no longer on top of the rock wall. This threw me because it is so obvious. I cant imagine someone hiking out this far just to push it over.

The waterproof box that I transferred the register to is still waterproof but I think there are some pages missing. The original papers left by John Montgomery are still there as is the juice bottle he used as a register. I think that some pages are missing because There were others who had signed.

We came across a wallet with Identification from Venezuela and a really nice Blanket. I think these have been here less than a year.

NEXT TIME
Instead of going the established way I plan to keep going up the wash to the base of the cliffs to the West. If there is a way through these trees and up the cliffs then it will lead to the same level of the Arch. Getting up into and under the arch is about the scariest part of the whole trek from the way described in other entries.

Thank you, John Montgomery. I hope you and yours are well and content.
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Mar 14 2023
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Atascosa PeakTucson, AZ
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Hiking8.00 Miles 3,086 AEG
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Atascosa trail #100
44 degrees at 8:00 am.
Breezy – chilly in the shade.
3 quarts of water – came back with one pint
Light breeze all day. Buzzed by three jets.
Woke myself up snoring while napping at the top.
It’s been two years since my last venture to the peak. I missed this hike but it was nice to see the area with fresh view.

8:04 – Started on trail #100
8:15 – Gate
8:44 – first overlook – about 10 min slower than two years ago
9:02 – Saddle – About 14 min behind – Trail has more level spots after this.
9:23 – Hairpin at Window – shortest time to this point was 55 minutes. Average time here is about an hour and five minutes. An hour and 19 minutes this trip.
Buried a pint of half frozen water here.
9:43 after a 20 minute break I decided to go off trail and head straight up the hillside to the saddle overlooking the long saddle between the lookout and the peak.
From here to the South end of the Saddle is less than 1000 feet.
This knocks off almost a mile of distance and some pretty hefty elevation gain.
10:01 – It took a little more than 15 minutes to climb the 500 feet to the small saddle.
10:03 – after a brief rest I headed NW down to the SW end of the saddle.
10:07 – 4:00 feet covered in less than 5 minutes.
10:27 – Took a break under the shade of the pines as the Saddle begins to rise.
There are a lot of downed trees along the way but there is still many opportunities for shade.
10:42 – left the shade and continued – While here I watched another Black Jet fly to the South. It looked like it was below the elevation of the lookout.
11:03 base of cliff
11:15 – At the cairn at the peak.
12:11 – After a short nap and a third fly by I headed back down.
12:57 – Rested at the same spot as 10:27
1:08 – Continued down and across the saddle.
1:29 – Reached same point as at 10:07 and rest here.
1:44 – Continued up to saddle above window.
1:48 – Reached saddle in about 5 minutes.
2:10 -Reached the window. It looks like it is falling apart. There were a lot more pieces laying around that have fallen from the ceiling. It’s a good place for shade.
2:15 – Back on the trail at the hairpin – (9:23) – Rested here and retrieved my cached water which was about half thawed.
2:41 – Left Hairpin
3:04 – Saddle (9:02)
3:09 – overlook (8:44)
3:13 – Clouds went away. I got hot and took advantage of some shade.
3:57 – Onward and downward – Clouds came back and it got chilly
4:21 – Gate
4:18 – Trailhead

Some of the breaks I took were genuinely needed. Others were for the view.
I started down the backside of the peak after my nap but I’ve been there before so this time I checked out the West side of the peak. Down as far as the cliffs would allow.
If I read the register correctly someone “Landed” at the top. Couple a helicopter land there? It’s reasonable level.
It looks like none of the clothes, bottles and trash are newer than 2 years ago.
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There are more cairns that I remember. I knock mine down on the return trip of about any hike. The problem, now, across the saddle and up through the cliffs is that there are too many to make sense of.
 
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